Some swim thoughts to share (Page 2)

Yes I am doing it in front of my computer...can't wait to try it out Friday....cool!

Bob,

I found this on You tube ...does this explain what you were getting at the third version?

Does doing the three different ways of sculling make sense to help get the feel that high elbows you can catch more water?

Thanks Bob! 

Those tips are exactly the things I'm working on with my coach.

You speak the truth!  Your critique (and others) of my swim (video I posted on BT) - was spot on!  Great visualization tips.  They work.

The skills discussed above are emerging in my swim and improvement in my swim is obvious and marked.  Great thread!

Thanks for the post!

My son just walked in on me "swimming over a barrel" in front of the computer!

Jake

Good stuff.

I've been crossing center and wondering how to fix it. Rotation starts at hip. Gotta remember that. Reach shoulder width. I don't do that either.

On a positive note, I am doing a lot of the other things in the original post. Progress. It feels wonderful!!!!

Count to 2 before you start each pull. hmmmm.

but not catchup drill...

I'm a little confused. So the recovery arm stays extended longer? is that the thought?

Actually, the recovery arm starts the recovery before the pulling arm starts the pull. The hesitation is just before you start the pull, with your arm extended in front of you.

For those competitive swimmers out there that are about to type that there shouldn't be any hesitation in the stroke remember, these were just some things to work on to become a more efficient swimmer.

Holy cow, the thread dropped off the page.

In my little 1000 yd swim yeaterday I was holding a steady pace trying to keep a constant 6 1/2 strokes per length while obtaining the EVF. I want to point out how important rotation is when trying to hold that EVF through the catch. If you are not fully rotated (arm extended as far as you can) when you begin your catch it can really put a strain on your shoulder, not to mention losing about 6 inches of pulling. Rotating your body during the peginning of the pull also puts you in a better position to hold your elbow high as your arm pulls through your torso and you will be in position to finish your stroke and get ready to rotate the other direction.

This is much easier to demonstrate or explain in person than it is to type but I hope it makes some sense.

Ummmm....I think I got it....if you ever run across a picture though....(just say'n). 

Thanx for the tip!  Thanx for your time!

Read your tips last week and tried 'the barrel' in a session this morning. WOW!!!

i can actually feel myself grabbing water!! And you get so much more thrust with the same stroke. Dont you love these moments makes you keep coming back for more.

 Cheers

PennState - 2008-12-17 9:18 PM

bryancd - 2008-12-17 7:54 PM Great thread Bob. I'm going to disagree with Dan's Masters coach. I don't think the hand should enter so far in the reach. I think it's ok to enter the water a bit earlier and then extend as long as your arm doesn't dive towards the bottom of the pool, stay shallow, and then initiates the catch.

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In my book, enterring the water so far in the reach (at least in me) leads to a dropped elbow.

In my swim this morning I was focussing on my hand entry. I enter the water with my thumb first and my arm almost completely extended. I don't think there is a "right" way of entering but you definitely do not want to be pushing any water forward after your hand enters the water.

bryancd - 2008-12-17 7:54 PM Great thread Bob. I'm going to disagree with Dan's Masters coach. I don't think the hand should enter so far in the reach. I think it's ok to enter the water a bit earlier and then extend as long as your arm doesn't dive towards the bottom of the pool, stay shallow, and then initiates the catch.

Ching...I go through the mail slot (thanks for that tip last year), early, but keep a hydrodynamic hand going forward to full extension, keeping it sooper shallow, then you get a full pull.