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2012-07-16 11:18 AM

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I'll try to be brief but that is difficult for me. Ha!

Racine yesterday was to be my third HIM, Kansas and Branson being the first two. In both those first two my VMO/quads and groins to some degree cramped pretty hard at the beginning of the run. I got the cramps to stop by stopping and stretching and had good runs the rest of the races.

I'm currently training for IM Louisville (August 26), so I really wanted to address this issue. This spring/summer I've switched to Infinit replacing water and gels. Recently I've added 2x saltsticks per hour, because I didn't feel I got enough electrolytes in my custom Infinit mix. This has worked well in my 5-6 hour bricks and the Oly and sprint races I've done this season.

One thing I tried different prepping for Racine was to start hydrating several days before the race. Mostly drinking lots of water. Some G2. I figured regular diet would take care of enough sodium intake, but also supplemented with saltsticks, one the night before and one the morning of. Peanut butter on a bagel and G2 for breakfast, banana and water before the swim. The breakfast was typical race day breakfast for me, although I normally have some coffee. I skipped that trying to have a "better" prep.

My swim went okay at Racine. I'm slow but I was fine with the time. Bike started normal, taking about 4-5 miles to really get my legs going. Started with a drink of Infinit followed by water. More Infinit every 15 minutes and a saltstick every 30. Seemed like a logical plan.

That was until somewhere in the 12-15 mile mark when I felt my first twinge in my quads. I knew this probably wasn't good. The bike is my strongest event. Top 5-15% calmly and 25-30% in larger events. I've never cramped on the bike leg of a triathlon, so something wasn't right, especially this early. I started taking more frequent water and Infinit (the Infinit was concentrated, hence the water). First aid station I got more water and chugged an Ironman Perform.

It seemed to help momentarily but the cramps started getting worse. At mile 47 both legs locked completely. I mean from my hips to my toes and even my hands and triceps cramped. I haven't hurt that bad since my hip replacement. I coasted and was able to pedal again but this happened at least three more times before the end of the bike.

When I got off the bike I couldn't move. Literally. I've never cramped that bad in my life. My leg muscles looked like a deformed mess. I could even hear spectators commenting about it. Took several minutes with saltstick and water and stretching before I could move. Walked to the first aid station and took several cups of Perform and water. I was finally able to start running about mile two, but the cramps came back. Did this run/walk thing for a while but at mile 4 everything totally locked up again. I decided to call it a day at the first loop turn at mile 6.

Went to the med tent. After a lot of work with RNs and massage therapist they finally decided to put in an IV. 1.5 liters of saline, 5 bottles of Perform and a coke later I was able to walk again. Apparently the cramps were so bad they had several nurses check it out. I felt like a test subject. Lol.

As background: my logs aren't on here, because my coach uses TrainingPeaks. I'm averaging 13-14 hours a week. I've been training in 90-100 degree heat with fairly high humidity.

I don't think I was hyponatemic, at least not with my understanding, although the sympoms are similar. I had no dizziness or nausea. The rest of my body felt really good. I just couldn't move! My coach believes I took in too much water in the leading days and diluted my electrolytes. She says this explains the early onset of the cramps and the severity of them. This seems logical, but I wanted to get some opinions on here, because I really trust this board.

Again, sorry for the length. I just can't help it sometimes.


2012-07-16 12:46 PM
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RazorTri - 2012-07-16 12:18 PM I'll try to be brief but that is difficult for me. Ha!

My coach believes I took in too much water in the leading days and diluted my electrolytes. She says this explains the early onset of the cramps and the severity of them.

I do not know exactly what happened to you, but this explanation seems highly unlikely.  The human body is typically more than capable of keeping itself in 'balance' even if you drink a fair amount of water.  Especially since you were also taking in (what sounds like plenty of) salt.

How hard were you riding?  How is your swim fitness?  How was the heat/humidity?  Those things seem the more likely culprits, but there's always the possibility of some other issue.

2012-07-16 1:03 PM
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RazorTri - off topic - I noticed you had a hip replacement, my wife goes in for hers next Tuesday.  She was curious to know how long it took for you to recuperate to the point of being able to begin training again?

 

 

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RazorTri - 2012-07-16 12:18 PM I'll try to be brief but that is difficult for me. Ha!

My coach believes I took in too much water in the leading days and diluted my electrolytes. She says this explains the early onset of the cramps and the severity of them.

I do not know exactly what happened to you, but this explanation seems highly unlikely.  The human body is typically more than capable of keeping itself in 'balance' even if you drink a fair amount of water.  Especially since you were also taking in (what sounds like plenty of) salt.

How hard were you riding?  How is your swim fitness?  How was the heat/humidity?  Those things seem the more likely culprits, but there's always the possibility of some other issue.

Thanks for the response. Was riding zone 3, so hard-ish but not near redlining. Certainly not near as hard as Branson with the hills. Swim was definitely harder effort. I'm not fast and do struggle but that wasn't new. It was hot and I would say really humid, bough I don't have the numbers. Certainly nothing I haven't trained in and recently raced in, although not at that distance. I know it's hard to replicate race conditions and effort. Just frustrating.
2012-07-16 1:17 PM
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RazorTri - 2012-07-16 12:18 PM I'll try to be brief but that is difficult for me. Ha!

My coach believes I took in too much water in the leading days and diluted my electrolytes. She says this explains the early onset of the cramps and the severity of them.

I do not know exactly what happened to you, but this explanation seems highly unlikely.  The human body is typically more than capable of keeping itself in 'balance' even if you drink a fair amount of water.  Especially since you were also taking in (what sounds like plenty of) salt.

How hard were you riding?  How is your swim fitness?  How was the heat/humidity?  Those things seem the more likely culprits, but there's always the possibility of some other issue.

This is my thought as well. 

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gti123 - 2012-07-16 1:03 PM

RazorTri - off topic - I noticed you had a hip replacement, my wife goes in for hers next Tuesday.  She was curious to know how long it took for you to recuperate to the point of being able to begin training again?

 

 

Hi. At 6 weeks post-op I was able to start riding on a trainer. Rode outside at 9 weeks. Didn't run until after 12 months per doctor's orders. Cycling I was able to gain strength pretty quick. Running was a slow process with some setbacks, but after 18 months or so I was doing well. I did a lot of strength and balance work as well. I was 38 years old when I had it done, as info. Feel free to message me with any questions. I'd be happy to help. Best of luck on her surgery.
2012-07-16 4:43 PM
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By chance do you take Advair or any similar asthma drugs? I had horrendous cramping, especially in my feet/arch and toes and after a couple years of frustration and people telling me I was doing too much too soon, I mentioned it to my pulmo doc and she ordered some blood work and sure enough I was one of those folks who cramp from the drug interfering with potassium absorbtion. Someone else could explain it better/more accurately, but if you take asthma drugs take thee to a doc and get checked out.

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Do you take any prescription drugs. Like Little Cat points out they can effect your body. I cramped up in two races one I actually fell down as my legs were locked up. Both times I was taking a relatively new prescription drug. Second time I had seen a specialist and talked to a number of pharmacists to see if the drug could be effecting cramping...they all said no. But w/o the drug no cramping and with it cramping. I no longer take the drug. I never cramped in training only racing as harder effort so you may need to think of pacing when it is hot and humid as many of us need to slow down.

2012-07-16 5:08 PM
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Good question about the meds. I don't take any prescription meds and it had been over a week since I had taken an NSAID. If electrolyte dilution or imbalance wasn't the issue, I suppose it would point to effort and/or dehydration on the course. It just doesn't make sense. A lot, or really most, of my training rides are harder than what I was going in this race. At least I don't think I was. I will look at the power and HR numbers when I get home. Even though the temps were bad, they weren't as bad as I've been training on, but maybe the swim really took more than I thought. It's irritating!
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Based on what you've said so far, I think you likely had low potassium. With all the fluid intake for the days prior to the race you must have had increased urine output. Increased flow in the latter part of the kidney leads to potassium excretion. In combo with that, sounds like you were taking extra sodium. Sodium and potassium go in opposite directions in the latter part of the nephron (kidney filtering unit) so increased delivery of sodium there will cause some of that excess sodium to be reabsorbed, pushing out potassium. I can't make a definitive conclusion of course but this is my best guess.

I'd recommend you not load up on fluid and salt so much prior to a race. Maybe during training, weigh yourself before and after and try to gauge how much fluid intake you need. Not that you can or should replace 100% of losses, but you can get an idea.


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Do you know your sweat rate? Are you a salty sweater( i.e. do you get salt stains on your clothes)? Did you notice any swelling in the hands feet or otherwise? Right now I agree with your coach, but need more information.

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Miamicatracho - 2012-07-16 5:14 PMBased on what you've said so far, I think you likely had low potassium. With all the fluid intake for the days prior to the race you must have had increased urine output. Increased flow in the latter part of the kidney leads to potassium excretion. In combo with that, sounds like you were taking extra sodium. Sodium and potassium go in opposite directions in the latter part of the nephron (kidney filtering unit) so increased delivery of sodium there will cause some of that excess sodium to be reabsorbed, pushing out potassium. I can't make a definitive conclusion of course but this is my best guess.

I'd recommend you not load up on fluid and salt so much prior to a race. Maybe during training, weigh yourself before and after and try to gauge how much fluid intake you need. Not that you can or should replace 100% of losses, but you can get an idea.
Thanks a lot. Spot on. I was urinating very often. Once an hour on average. I didn't know those details about potassium.
2012-07-16 5:46 PM
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schmize - 2012-07-16 5:32 PMDo you know your sweat rate? Are you a salty sweater( i.e. do you get salt stains on your clothes)? Did you notice any swelling in the hands feet or otherwise? Right now I agree with your coach, but need more information.
I am generally 152-155 pounds at 5'7" with a lean, muscular build. Sweat rate varies a little with the temp but generally 4-5 pounds per hour on the bike (hard effort) and a bit more on a run when it's hot. Very salty and heavy sweater. Never notice swelling in hands or feet. Thanks for helping.
2012-07-16 6:21 PM
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I am generally 152-155 pounds at 5'7" with a lean, muscular build. Sweat rate varies a little with the temp but generally 4-5 pounds per hour on the bike (hard effort) and a bit more on a run when it's hot. Very salty and heavy sweater. Never notice swelling in hands or feet. Thanks for helping.

4-5 pounds is definitely on the high end, but not unheard of (Alberto Salazar was in the 6 pound range).  When you train in the heat/humidity how much of these fluids do you replace?  Although, the gut is trainable, I would assume its pretty hard to get in 100oz of fluids/hr.

I will use myself as an example, because I had a similar experience to you.  I also have a highs sweat rate from 3.5-4 pounds.  I am a salty sweater.  Race week, and before long training sessions, I never drink plain 'ol water.  I have it with NuuN or saltstick or plain table salt.  It sucks, but I learned that this is the only way I can get through longer hot/humid efforts.  I do the same on race day.  I also follow the Bob Seebohar (sp?) method of sodium loading before a race (I can email to you, if you are interested).  According to him, you can't just take in a bunch of sodium in one sitting (like chinese food, etc or even a bunch of saltsticks..and my experience, too).  You need to take it in over time to build up your blood/sodium volume.

During the race yesterday, I took in 60oz/hr (I trained for it) on bike and about 45oz/hr on the run.   It was brutal yesterday, no matter if the temp "only" read 88 deg.  It was humid, and humidity is not our friend (sweat is not able to evaporate to properly cool your skin).  I also took in 1200mg of sodium (and other electrolytes/hour).  I still think I can take in more.  Even though it was a tough day, I was still able to take 3rd in my AG (I have never podium'd in any IM event).  Yes, slower than I would have in cooler temps, but was able to finish strong and more important to me....I went to the bathroom during the race (in T1) and an hour afterwards.

Since this hasn't happened before and you live in Arkansas and probably train a bunch in the heat, I think you were depleted at the start and your body was asking for electrolytes.  Lots of differing opinions out there and the science of it all (Tim NOakes, etc.), however, most of these people don't sweat like us 3+ pounds/hr.  Its a different ball game.  I was lucky enough to speak with Craig Alexander on the topic and he only sweats 1.5-2 pounds/hr in Kona.  He only takes in 1 liter (33oz)/hr and 800mg of sodium per hour in Kona.  I have tried that before and ended up in bad shape.   Look at how much sodium Jordan Rapp (google his race nutrition) and you will see the other end of the spectrum.  Everyone is different.  I suspect you are on the side of needing more.

Again, my anecdotal experience (but I know of others), and I believe your coach is right and will need to look at taking in even more electrolytes in IMKY AND properly hydrate the week of the race.   I will share with you what I took in yesterday, if you are curious.   

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schmize - 2012-07-16 6:21 PM

4-5 pounds is definitely on the high end, but not unheard of (Alberto Salazar was in the 6 pound range).  When you train in the heat/humidity how much of these fluids do you replace?  Although, the gut is trainable, I would assume its pretty hard to get in 100oz of fluids/hr.

I will use myself as an example, because I had a similar experience to you.  I also have a highs sweat rate from 3.5-4 pounds.  I am a salty sweater.  Race week, and before long training sessions, I never drink plain 'ol water.  I have it with NuuN or saltstick or plain table salt.  It sucks, but I learned that this is the only way I can get through longer hot/humid efforts.  I do the same on race day.  I also follow the Bob Seebohar (sp?) method of sodium loading before a race (I can email to you, if you are interested).  According to him, you can't just take in a bunch of sodium in one sitting (like chinese food, etc or even a bunch of saltsticks..and my experience, too).  You need to take it in over time to build up your blood/sodium volume.

During the race yesterday, I took in 60oz/hr (I trained for it) on bike and about 45oz/hr on the run.   It was brutal yesterday, no matter if the temp "only" read 88 deg.  It was humid, and humidity is not our friend (sweat is not able to evaporate to properly cool your skin).  I also took in 1200mg of sodium (and other electrolytes/hour).  I still think I can take in more.  Even though it was a tough day, I was still able to take 3rd in my AG (I have never podium'd in any IM event).  Yes, slower than I would have in cooler temps, but was able to finish strong and more important to me....I went to the bathroom during the race (in T1) and an hour afterwards.

Since this hasn't happened before and you live in Arkansas and probably train a bunch in the heat, I think you were depleted at the start and your body was asking for electrolytes.  Lots of differing opinions out there and the science of it all (Tim NOakes, etc.), however, most of these people don't sweat like us 3+ pounds/hr.  Its a different ball game.  I was lucky enough to speak with Craig Alexander on the topic and he only sweats 1.5-2 pounds/hr in Kona.  He only takes in 1 liter (33oz)/hr and 800mg of sodium per hour in Kona.  I have tried that before and ended up in bad shape.   Look at how much sodium Jordan Rapp (google his race nutrition) and you will see the other end of the spectrum.  Everyone is different.  I suspect you are on the side of needing more.

Again, my anecdotal experience (but I know of others), and I believe your coach is right and will need to look at taking in even more electrolytes in IMKY AND properly hydrate the week of the race.   I will share with you what I took in yesterday, if you are curious.   

This is excellent information. First off, congrats on your race. That is truly great! Very impressed.

Yes, if you don't mind, please send me the sodium loading info and your intake. I will message you with my email address.

Based on what you said, I'm probably way short of what I should be taking, even in training. I'm more on the order of 24 oz along with 230 calories. I don't have the electrolyte stats in front of me right now. That sounds super low compared to even Crowie.

My coach did say that we need to work on a two-week plan that will prepare the (I may have the technical terms wrong) muscles hydrated at the cellular level vs a plasmic level, which the few days before a race would typically hydrate. I may not be passing this along correctly, but the net was I should start prepping the system a couple weeks out.

Thanks again. Extremely appreciative!


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Sounds like lost electrolytes to me too.  I am a very salty sweater.  My bike helmet looks like a coke addict's paradise after a long bike ride because the strap is caked with salt.  I can literally scrape it off.

I have numerous times lost 8+ lbs in 3 hour bike rides even after consuming 40+ oz of liquid.  I have to take 3 Saltstick pills/hr when racing HIMs.  And I have to combine that with electrolyte drink too.  I thought over time I'd be a more efficient sweater, ie less sweat.  But it seems the better I get, the more I sweat.  The more I sweat, the more electrolyte pills and drink I have to consume during training and racing.

Since you're used to that level of training, it seems surprising that the level of cramping you had was above normal.  However, that doesn't take into account the water consumption during the week.  Peeing once an hour is very high.  

One of the things about hydrating before races is that if you're peeing once an hour and the urine is clear, you're actually doing nothing but flushing electrolytes from your system.  And it winds up being liquid in, liquid out, with no hydrating benefit at all.  The point of hydration is to retain the hydration, which means you shouldn't be urinating so much.  I've changed my hyrdation strategy from drinking lots of water during the week before an HIM to consuming more fruits and vegetables.  With fruit and vegetables being mostly water, what you get is the benefit of hydration, the natural sugar, complex carbohydrates, and high quality fiber.  And since it's not pure water but rather a combination of those things, you wind up retaining more water and hydrate more efficiently.  For me, now it's lots of oranges, grapes, spinach, etc.  Plus, it tastes a lot better than water and even G2.

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And now for something completely different.

Sorry for the length.

I had quad and hamstring cramps at every race last year.  Actually, they started at IMWI 2010.  The cramps would start mid-way through the bike (for an IM) or at the end of the bike (for a HIM).  They often reduced me to a deformed walk on the run.  But I very very rarely cramped in training.  I did a lot of experimentation with increasing electrolytes and water both before and during the event to try to get rid of them, but with no real success.  You've probably read enough to know that there is no real agreement on the cause of cramps.  If you believe Noakes, then electrolyte depletion causes general cramping, not cramps in just the working muscles.  But there seems to be a relation between cramping of the working muscles and fatigue or lack of fitness.

I always found it hard to reconcile the cramp-fatigue connection and my cramps during races.  I trained at race-pace frequently, for durations at or longer than the race.  How could I have a lack of fitness?  I never cramped during training, in spite of heat, heavy salty sweating (I'm another VERY heavy sweater), workout intensity, duration.  I can take in water-only in training and still not cramp. 

Then I had an AHA moment during Kansas 70.3 this year.  The swim was no-wetsuit so I had to use my kick a bit more than usual.  When I got out of the swim, my quads already felt tight.  I swim about 16K per week, so I am not under-trained for the swim.  Then, during the ride I could feel the quads getting tighter and entering the pre-cramp mode.  Same old story, but now I'm really paying attention, and I realize that I'm very tense when I race.  I dont relax my quads during the pedal up-stroke.  Ditto with hamstrings.  So, I focus on pedaling relaxed, and the pre-cramp tightness goes away.  I'm still thinking of the electrolyte cramp model, so I pop a salt tab for insurance.  After the race, I conclude that I'm also tense in the swim, and I kick spastically rather than smoothly.

The next race came two weeks later: Buffalo Springs 70.3, a notoriously hot race.  Wetsuit-legal, but I chose to forgo the wetsuit since the water is warm.  One of my goals is to relax, especially quads, throughout the swim and bike.  I revert to my usual Infinit on the bike along with Coke/water and a gel of two on the run.  No extra electrolytes.  I sweat buckets, but have ZERO cramping issues.  Not even a twinge. 

So, for me, the cramps were fatigue-based brought on by being way too tense during the race, and holding that tension in my legs.  I'm not saying that electrolytes aren't the cause of your issue.  Only that there are other potential causes.  Good luck -- hope you figure them out!
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Does anyone know if it is possible to take in too much salt during a race? I'm sure it is possible but I've just never heard of anyone actually doing it and what the impact would look like.
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mattramirez - 2012-07-16 8:10 PM

Sounds like lost electrolytes to me too.  I am a very salty sweater.  My bike helmet looks like a coke addict's paradise after a long bike ride because the strap is caked with salt.  I can literally scrape it off.

I have numerous times lost 8+ lbs in 3 hour bike rides even after consuming 40+ oz of liquid.  I have to take 3 Saltstick pills/hr when racing HIMs.  And I have to combine that with electrolyte drink too.  I thought over time I'd be a more efficient sweater, ie less sweat.  But it seems the better I get, the more I sweat.  The more I sweat, the more electrolyte pills and drink I have to consume during training and racing.

Since you're used to that level of training, it seems surprising that the level of cramping you had was above normal.  However, that doesn't take into account the water consumption during the week.  Peeing once an hour is very high.  

One of the things about hydrating before races is that if you're peeing once an hour and the urine is clear, you're actually doing nothing but flushing electrolytes from your system.  And it winds up being liquid in, liquid out, with no hydrating benefit at all.  The point of hydration is to retain the hydration, which means you shouldn't be urinating so much.  I've changed my hyrdation strategy from drinking lots of water during the week before an HIM to consuming more fruits and vegetables.  With fruit and vegetables being mostly water, what you get is the benefit of hydration, the natural sugar, complex carbohydrates, and high quality fiber.  And since it's not pure water but rather a combination of those things, you wind up retaining more water and hydrate more efficiently.  For me, now it's lots of oranges, grapes, spinach, etc.  Plus, it tastes a lot better than water and even G2.

Your helmet sounds like mine. The strap just gets nasty.

Definitely sounds like I was taking too much water. The urine got to the point where it was basically clear as water. I like the idea of eating more fruits. I get tired of sports drink. I use the G2 because it's not as sugary but still has some electrolytes. One of my buddies who raced with me drinks a lot of coconut water. That seems like a good alternative as well. I had never tried it but it tastes decent and has a fair amount of potassium and some sodium and carbs as well. I also see that Jordon Rapp eats coconut. I may have to try this as well. It's nice to have natural options.

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rockymtnhigh - 2012-07-16 9:14 PM

So, for me, the cramps were fatigue-based brought on by being way too tense during the race, and holding that tension in my legs.  I'm not saying that electrolytes aren't the cause of your issue.  Only that there are other potential causes.  Good luck -- hope you figure them out!

Thanks for the feedback. I'm sure I have nutrition problems after reading several things since Sunday and some specific (excellent) help from schmize, but I don't doubt what you say is a contributing factor. I'm not a good swimmer and I'm tense the entire time and that bleeds over into the bike until I can relax. Congrats on being able to tackle yours!



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Just came across this site and this was one of the first threads I found.

Razor - this is exactly what happened to me at Racine and my coach and I nailed it down to too much hydration leading up to the race along with a nutrition fail on my electrolyte mix. Not necessarily hyponatremia but flushing out too much of the important stuff and due to the heat my body just couldn't replenish fast enough.

I was in the same boat as you - last wave - had an awesome swim which I thought was going to be a precursor to a great day then I hit those headwinds and it was game over by mile 25. Left leg locked up so I pulled over to the aid station and worked it out with fluids and stretching. Made it to mile 42 then both legs locked up and it looked like I had baseballs in my quads. I kept trying to work them out but then my whole body cramped up. Quite the mess. Ended up in the hospital with the scarlet letter (DNF).

When I was at the hospital later they ran some tests and I had low potassium. Took about a week to recover but hitting it hard again for Branson 70.3.

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twiley - 2012-08-13 4:03 PM

Just came across this site and this was one of the first threads I found.

Razor - this is exactly what happened to me at Racine and my coach and I nailed it down to too much hydration leading up to the race along with a nutrition fail on my electrolyte mix. Not necessarily hyponatremia but flushing out too much of the important stuff and due to the heat my body just couldn't replenish fast enough.

I was in the same boat as you - last wave - had an awesome swim which I thought was going to be a precursor to a great day then I hit those headwinds and it was game over by mile 25. Left leg locked up so I pulled over to the aid station and worked it out with fluids and stretching. Made it to mile 42 then both legs locked up and it looked like I had baseballs in my quads. I kept trying to work them out but then my whole body cramped up. Quite the mess. Ended up in the hospital with the scarlet letter (DNF).

When I was at the hospital later they ran some tests and I had low potassium. Took about a week to recover but hitting it hard again for Branson 70.3.

Sorry to hear. That was shocking similar to mine and at the same race! I've done a lot of research since then and got help from some people on here and hope to have it figured out for IMKY (in 13 days!). 

It was a bad experience but much better to do it there than Louisville. I feel much better about things now. Just praying for temps in the 80s.

Good luck with Branson. I did it last year (it was my 2nd HIM). Bike is tough. Toughest on the 70.3 circuit if you believe the data. Run is really flat and enjoyable. Great race. You'll have a fun time.

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