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2008-03-12 11:01 AM

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Subject: Truth or Fiction?
I recently finished a fiction novel, and though it was a good story, found myself feeling kinda ambivalent.  Though I was entertained, I also felt like - meh, so what, I just wasted my time essentially learning nothing.  I am generally a non-fiction reader, and like the fact that what I read actually happened and is a segment of history. It's an educational investment.  
How do BTer's weigh in on book preference?  And to the voracious fiction readers on BT: what is it about these books that is so appealing?


2008-03-12 11:05 AM
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I read mostly fiction - but I try to read "good" fiction. I don't read chick lit, I don't read crappy, mass-producing formulaic writers like James Patterson, etc. My only "vice" author is Stephen King. I think there's a difference between simple "fiction" and "literature". I try to read "literature" (I also have a Masters in it...). Good literature is like a good quality piece of cinema, or artwork, etc. It's art, not necessarily "knowledge" - but it can be. It's also thought-provoking.

I could write more, but I'll let others respond before I think of more specific points.



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2008-03-12 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: Truth or Fiction?
I love a good story, I think entertainment is as valuable as learning and essential I read because I can escape my day to day world into the pages of a book and hopefully have a good giggle as the same time. I always read before going to sleep even if just a few pages, but I do tend to get through a couple of books a week. I find reading relaxes and de-stresses me

That said, I occasionally will read a biography, or historical book, or other types of factual books if they are of interest to me.

There is nothing wrong with reading for pleasure, and no harm in mixing it up as well. I have a wide and varied taste so read all kinds of genres.
2008-03-12 11:10 AM
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 I have to say a mix of both.  I am currently in the middle of 5 different books. Two are instructional, two fiction and one military history. If I pick up something that is slow reading that number can go up. It might take me a while to get through it, but I will eventually finish the book.
2008-03-12 11:13 AM
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Subject: RE: Truth or Fiction?
pinktrigal - 2008-03-12 12:01 PM
I recently finished a fiction novel, and though it was a good story, found myself feeling kinda ambivalent.  Though I was entertained, I also felt like - meh, so what, I just wasted my time essentially learning nothing.  I am generally a non-fiction reader, and like the fact that what I read actually happened and is a segment of history. It's an educational investment.  
How do BTer's weigh in on book preference?  And to the voracious fiction readers on BT: what is it about these books that is so appealing?

I agree with your thoughts - I tend to "not see the point" of fiction.  Now, with that said, I do read the occasional fictional novel, but the VAST majority of my reading tends to be non-fiction.  I feel that if I'm going to read fiction, I might as well save time and just watch a TV show instead.

The same way though that I rarely watch sitcoms or drama anymore on tv, when the TV is on, we're usually watching National Geographic, Discovery or something similar (and of course our usually smattering of Reality TV - but does that constitute fiction?  )

2008-03-12 11:16 AM
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I try to alternate.  I also can be reading several books at once.  I do not feel fiction is a waste of time however.  Entertainment is well.....  Entertainment.  And sometimes mindless entertainment is useful.  Everything in moderation right?


2008-03-12 11:16 AM
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condorman - 2008-03-12 12:13 PM

I agree with your thoughts - I tend to "not see the point" of fiction.  Now, with that said, I do read the occasional fictional novel, but the VAST majority of my reading tends to be non-fiction.  I feel that if I'm going to read fiction, I might as well save time and just watch a TV show instead.

Haha, see, my thought is the exact opposite. Good literature is better than most TV and more intellectually stimulating. But I also really like to read.

Doesn't mean I don't like to zone out and watch silly TV or read something less serious. But I do see the value of reading good books.



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2008-03-12 11:17 AM
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I read about 1 fiction novel for every 5 non-fiction.  I typically will only read a fiction if I'm pretty sure the time I invest in it will be entertaining.  If it isn't good in the first 20 pages I'll just stop reading.
2008-03-12 11:17 AM
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Good literature, like good poetry, reminds us of our humanity and that can never be a bad thing.
2008-03-12 11:27 AM
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I kinda sorta like the monthy fiction, aka "Triathlete Magazine" with the endless

Buy this bike (to ride faster)

Buy this wetsuit (to swim faster)

Buy this recovery drink (to perform better)

Don't spend much time with the spine of a book cracked. 

2008-03-12 11:31 AM
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I am a social studies teacher without a social science undergrad so my general content knowledge isn't as great as I would like. So I have been enjoying reading history and social-issue books. I find that I have little patience for history books that aren't very academic though. I read Undaunted Courage and learned quite a bit, but was frustrated at the level at which it was written.

That being said, I do enjoy a bit of fiction now and then. On my list for once I finish the couple books I'm working on now is some Sherlock Holmes and some James Bond just because I think they would be fun to read.


2008-03-12 11:37 AM
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2008-03-12 11:38 AM
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Literature, like any other art, is a relationship between the object and the viewer, or the words and the reader. You bring yourself, and your history, beleifs, perceptions (all of your self) to the table, in the best cases, you walk away with an experience that affects (or changes) and hopefully contributes to the depth of yourself.

This is true of both fiction and non fiction. Non fiction can be transformative in a very direct and easily perceptable way, you may learn to swim better, or how to make coq au vin, or lay cinderblock walls. Fiction, done well, can transform your perspective on life, or some aspect of it. Art creates a common language that ties society together and allows for the continuity of our most deeply held beliefs from one generation to the next. One can dissect the mating behaviour of rennaissance youth in a dry historical tome (and be factually correct) or you can look to Romeo and Juliet to see the meaning of such behaviour as it continues to relate to our own time.

I'll stop now.

 

 

2008-03-12 11:46 AM
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2008-03-12 12:02 PM
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I prefer fiction - - - it's an escape for me.  For me, there's sufficient news on politcal figures, wars, etc. that I would prefer the chance to get away. However, I do like modern fiction that incorporates present news and events.

Sometimes I read modern fiction (King, Clancy, etc) and sometimes I go back much further. Currently, I'm reading The Count of Monte Cristo for the nth time. Still l love it.



2008-03-12 12:04 PM
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i love non-fiction. i like to learn as much as i can about everything. Fiction has never really been able to hold my interest for very long; there are a few things i like, but they are few and far between.
2008-03-12 12:15 PM
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I read mostly non-fiction, but I am a historian at heart (mostly civil war) and if I do read fiction, it will be historically based fiction.

The only real exception to this is "the classics".  When I was on dialysis for 3 years, I found myself with 4 hours a day, 3 times a week, where I was basically trapped in a chair.  My options were TV, ipod, or reading.  I went back through and reread a lot of the classic american literature.  To Kill A Mockingbird, Huck Finn, etc.  It was nice to revisit those.

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2008-03-12 12:35 PM
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Ask the guy sitting across from you about his opinion on this subject.  At least it would temporarily stop him from clipping his nails/ear/nose hair while you are trying to read.

2008-03-12 12:59 PM
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karhooligan - 2008-03-12 1:35 PM

Ask the guy sitting across from you about his opinion on this subject.  At least it would temporarily stop him from clipping his nails/ear/nose hair while you are trying to read.

*snerk*



2008-03-12 1:01 PM
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I guess I'm the only one here reading romance, aka smut novels purely for entertainment and a break from reality.

I read more in the summer than  I do in the winter. I like to sit on my swing in my screened in porch and read. Sometimes in the summer, I'll go through 2-3 books a week. That with 10-12 hours of tri training.

2008-03-12 1:48 PM
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I'm also a 95% non-fiction reader. I dunno why, but I have a hard time relating to characters in books or caring what happens most of the time. I can get down with essays and short stories, though. I think the last fiction book I really loved was Monkey Wrench Gang, which I first read in high school.

Also, I will say that I might only read 5-10 books a year and most of my reading is Countryside Magazine, National Geographic, Mother Earth News, High Country News, etc. I think what I'm saying here is that I have no attention span. How 'bout that?

2008-03-12 1:50 PM
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ride_like_u_stole_it - 2008-03-12 9:38 AM

Literature, like any other art, is a relationship between the object and the viewer, or the words and the reader. You bring yourself, and your history, beleifs, perceptions (all of your self) to the table, in the best cases, you walk away with an experience that affects (or changes) and hopefully contributes to the depth of yourself.

This is true of both fiction and non fiction. Non fiction can be transformative in a very direct and easily perceptable way, you may learn to swim better, or how to make coq au vin, or lay cinderblock walls. Fiction, done well, can transform your perspective on life, or some aspect of it. Art creates a common language that ties society together and allows for the continuity of our most deeply held beliefs from one generation to the next. One can dissect the mating behaviour of rennaissance youth in a dry historical tome (and be factually correct) or you can look to Romeo and Juliet to see the meaning of such behaviour as it continues to relate to our own time.

I'll stop now.

Now I feel like a big loser. Though I do think you dismiss non-fiction a little too narrowly. There is so much more in the category than How-To's.  

2008-03-12 1:53 PM
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ride_like_u_stole_it - 2008-03-12 12:38 PM

Literature, like any other art, is a relationship between the object and the viewer, or the words and the reader. You bring yourself, and your history, beleifs, perceptions (all of your self) to the table, in the best cases, you walk away with an experience that affects (or changes) and hopefully contributes to the depth of yourself.

This is true of both fiction and non fiction. Non fiction can be transformative in a very direct and easily perceptable way, you may learn to swim better, or how to make coq au vin, or lay cinderblock walls. Fiction, done well, can transform your perspective on life, or some aspect of it. Art creates a common language that ties society together and allows for the continuity of our most deeply held beliefs from one generation to the next. One can dissect the mating behaviour of rennaissance youth in a dry historical tome (and be factually correct) or you can look to Romeo and Juliet to see the meaning of such behaviour as it continues to relate to our own time.

I'll stop now.

 

 

I agree...though I also agree with what Kimj said, that non-fiction isn't all how-to books. But I definitely concur with your defense of literature

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