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2008-06-17 9:53 PM

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Subject: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?

Whats some of the thought about best method of hydration on bike. I have always used standard down tube mount on my road bike but I am open for new options on my tri bike. I would like to hear some of your thoughts!

Aero Drinks mount - Seat Tube mount?

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2008-06-17 11:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
So far, for my sprints I have used the aero only, although the seat tube bottle (an aero shape) is still mounted, but empty.  For my first OD next month I plan to have both bottles filled.  For my first HIM in September I will have both those + rear mounted two bottles as well.
2008-06-18 10:26 AM
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I have aero and currently down tube. I tried a seat mount, but I kept hitting the bottles on my mount/dismount. Tried to angle the bottles, but then they fell out if I hit a bump. I have seen pictures where bottles are on seat post, but can't find them. Any suggestions on seat post mounts?
2008-06-18 1:09 PM
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My last HIM course was littered with bottles ejected from various (I assume) behind-the-seat carriers. I sloshed a little water from my Aero-bottle (bar mounted) but stayed hydrated.

2008-06-18 1:15 PM
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I have the seat tube mount and just got the aero bottle.  I LOVE the aero bottle.  Since it's in my face, it reminds me to drink and I don't have to fumble with a seat mounted bottle every 15 minutes.
2008-06-18 3:06 PM
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Not only is the aerodrink more aerodynamic thatn the behind-the-seat bottles, you get the added advantage of not breaking your position to drink.


2008-06-18 5:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
Profile Design makes a rear seat post bottle mount. I tried it, but because of the Zertz insert in my seatpost, I could not get it high enough for me to work.

I just bought the same thing with the exception that this new one mounts to the seat rails. I will try it out. I hope it works. I need the extra hydration, especially on training rides, don't like carrying bottles in my jersey, and my GT Jammer clip-ons won't accept an aero bottle.

2008-06-18 6:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
I just did a half-ironman this past weekend and greatly enjoyed have my aero drink bottle there.  There was a guy that I passed who said he lost both of his bottles that were behind the seat.  I had the one on my down tube and the aero and stayed plenty hydrated. Just my .02 though, what works for one person, doesn't work for everyone so try different combinations.
2008-06-18 6:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
run4yrlif - 2008-06-18 3:06 PM

Not only is the aerodrink more aerodynamic thatn the behind-the-seat bottles, you get the added advantage of not breaking your position to drink.


x2. There was an article recently (Triathlete mag maybe?) that said that behind the seat was the least-aero option.
2008-06-18 7:17 PM
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On my tribike, for short course I run an aerobottle (half full for sprints, full for OD's); I also have an aquarack (behind the seat) - however that is just for a flat kit for short course.  If/when I go back to long course (and for training), I use the aerobottle and one bottle in the aquarack; anything more than that is overkill with what you can get on the race course.

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2008-06-18 7:19 PM
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TDiddy - 2008-06-18 8:15 PM

There was an article recently (Triathlete mag maybe?) that said that behind the seat was the least-aero option.

This depends on the bike, the behind the seat holders, bottles and athlete position; I would recommend that an athlete use what they are comfortable with; whether that is an aerobottle, frame bottles, behind the seat bottles/system, camelbak, whatever.

Shane



2008-06-18 7:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
Probably, but I think the point of the article was that all other things being equal (since they likely were in a wind tunnel), behind the seat mounts weren't as aero. In fact I think the article said that data indicated one bottle on the down tube was more aero (actually the most aero) than an aerodrink-type bottle mount. But we're talking seconds difference over a 40K, which for lots of people isn't worth worrying about. So I would also agree that you do what's most comfortable unless you're one of the few trying to shave off every last bit of time.
2008-06-18 8:05 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
I also use the aerodrink.
2008-06-19 7:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
I've actually heard that depending on how beefy your head tube is having an aero bottle up front actually improves your aerodynamics. Also any advantage you save with a down tube bottle is quickly lost by having to get out of the aero position and drink from the down tube bottle. But like what was said before the times were talking about here are so miniscule that you would be better off training an extra 30 minutes a week than worry about your bottle placement. As long as its comfortable and easy to drink out of then it works.
2008-06-19 7:41 AM
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TDiddy - 2008-06-18 9:50 PM

Probably, but I think the point of the article was that all other things being equal (since they likely were in a wind tunnel), behind the seat mounts weren't as aero. In fact I think the article said that data indicated one bottle on the down tube was more aero (actually the most aero) than an aerodrink-type bottle mount. But we're talking seconds difference over a 40K, which for lots of people isn't worth worrying about. So I would also agree that you do what's most comfortable unless you're one of the few trying to shave off every last bit of time.

Again, it depends on the bike, the behind the seat holders, bottles and athlete position.  There have been studies that have said BTS were the #2 choice (after aerobottle), studies that said never put a bottle on a downtube and others that have said BTS is the worst choice.  Without access to a windtunnel (or at least a powermeter) for most athletes they are just going to have to choose what works for them and not worry what the most recent study says.

Shane

2008-06-19 10:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
gsmacleod - 2008-06-19 5:41 AM

TDiddy - 2008-06-18 9:50 PM

Probably, but I think the point of the article was that all other things being equal (since they likely were in a wind tunnel), behind the seat mounts weren't as aero. In fact I think the article said that data indicated one bottle on the down tube was more aero (actually the most aero) than an aerodrink-type bottle mount. But we're talking seconds difference over a 40K, which for lots of people isn't worth worrying about. So I would also agree that you do what's most comfortable unless you're one of the few trying to shave off every last bit of time.

Again, it depends on the bike, the behind the seat holders, bottles and athlete position.  There have been studies that have said BTS were the #2 choice (after aerobottle), studies that said never put a bottle on a downtube and others that have said BTS is the worst choice.  Without access to a windtunnel (or at least a powermeter) for most athletes they are just going to have to choose what works for them and not worry what the most recent study says.

Shane

My thoughts exactly!  Your main objective as a "Beginner Triathlete" is to stay healthy and enjoy this wonderful sport.  There are very few people on this site that actually do this for money.  With that being said, place the bottles where they work best for YOU.  You need to stay hydrated during long events.  If you lose bottles off your rear mount bottle holder, find something else.  If the straw on the aero bottle bugs you, find something else.  If there are going to be very few bottle exchanges during your long race, you better be prepared to fend for yourself.

As for me, I have one frame mount bottle, a standard size aero bottle, and a saddle mount bottle holder for two bottles.  I get thirsty.  I hope you find what you need.  Cheers!



2008-06-19 9:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?

I don't even have an aero bottle or mount. So it sounds like I definately need to get one and try it.

 

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2008-06-23 7:44 AM
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I mounted a Profile Design rear system to my seat rails last night. Initially, they seem like they should work well. The only thing I want to do is replace the mounting screws with a harder alloy if I can. One of the screws started to round out as I was torquing them to 60 inch pounds. And if I like the system, I will add some Locktite to make sure they don't come loose on a ride.

I will report back after I go for a longer ride with full 24oz. bottles and let everyone know how it performs.
2008-06-23 9:36 AM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
I cannot seem to get the bottle back into the bar after I use it. So, I use the aero most often as its pretty easy to get to and you dont have to take your hands off the bike.
2008-06-27 9:15 PM
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I rode today with my Profile Design seat rail mounted aquarack with two 24 oz bottles and it worked great. I hit some pretty good bumps at speed and they didn't even rattle. I think I will keep the two Infinit bottles in the cages on the downtube and seattube and water in the rear rack. Should work good.
2008-06-29 6:02 PM
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i agree with a lot of the comments. i've used both racks in training and racing and have to say IMO the aero drink is the best...for me. the aero is just easier to drink from without changing your body position. one thing i would HIGHLY recommend for mounting the aero drink is spending the extra dough and getting the rack instead of using the system that comes in the package with the bottle. while is may work for some, i found that the rubber band system is extremely inadequate to hold a full bottle and go over some major bumps. i'll never forget the scene at steelhead last year where there was a very bumpy section on the bike course and it was littered with water bottles and aero drink bottles. no joke. if i was on that cleaning crew...
but i digress. anyway, my vote is for the aero drink for ease of use and stability.


2008-06-30 5:23 AM
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Gregkl - have you tried using the mounting  bracket - one of my friends races with GT Jammers and a profile Aerodring bottle.

Personally - I have tried all combinations.

Behind the seat systems need GOOD cages to keep the bottles from ejecting. 

I use the Aero bottle for short races and back it up with a behind the seat double bottle cage system for longer reces / training rides.

I much prefer the aero - makes it easy to drink without changing out od aero position - and it is right in front of you - so you remember to drink regularly.

 

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2008-06-30 12:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
I like the aero drink best because the drink is in front of you and it REMINDS you to keep drinking. Also less risk of lauchin.

I also like the newer aero drink aka aquacell bcause I can have one feed bottle and one electrolyte bottle.
Just my 2 cents
2008-06-30 7:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
I had a guy at a bike shop look at my set up and because I have the Jammers set so far back, there is no straight bar to put the bracket on. Basically the bend begins within 3/4" from the brackets that hold the aerobar to my handlebar. I would love to use the aerobottle, but I think I will have to wait until I get a better set-up on my bike.

Do you think the Profile Design cages are good enough to hold the bottles on the rear? The bottles sure do fit tight!
2008-07-01 9:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Aero Drink or Seat post mount ?
I just pick-up the AquaCellâ„¢ from Profile Design.

http://www.profile-design.com/products/hydration/aquacell/

It is a dual chamber aerobar mounted drink system. The main chamber holds 27oz. Secondary chamber holds 17oz and it is compatible with the orginal Aerodrink bracket.
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