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2008-06-25 4:28 PM

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Subject: Sprint race strategies?
I'm a MOPer in my 3rd year of doing Tri's. I'm curious of the different types of strategies people use for their SPRINT races (about 1/2 mile swims, 12-15 mile bike ride, 3-4 mile runs). For example, do you go all out on each leg? do you hold back on the bike a little for better run performances? does it make sense bike harder and just rely on guts to finish the run? I'm trying to figure out for myself hypothetically what the best paces/speeds to shoot for to perform my best.
Currently, I try to survive the swim, usually don't go all out on the bike, and try to keep a decent pace on the run. Interested what others do.
Thanks,
Corey


2008-06-25 4:33 PM
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2008-06-25 4:38 PM
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2008-06-25 4:42 PM
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go hard on the swim so your dizzy enough for a volunteer to ask if your ok in T1.
go hard enough on the bike to hurl at least once
stagger into T2
run all out until puking, then repeat until you finish

remember to wipe the vomit off your face for the photo

2008-06-25 4:45 PM
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I've only done one, but I can tell you what NOT to do.

Get into town at 1 am the night before the race, and realize no restaurants are open...so no dinner.

Panic in the water and swim the whole thing backstroke, completely destroying your legs

Ride the crappiest bike in the world.

Run slow.
2008-06-25 4:54 PM
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For the benefit of us newbies, what is your technique for drafting legally?


2008-06-25 5:11 PM
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If you can't taste it, you're not going hard enough.

Really it depends on your fitness level -- how long you can sustain a threshold effort. If that's less than the time it'll take for you to finish the race, then you'll need to back off from that a bit.

2008-06-25 7:22 PM
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runrachierun - 2008-06-25 5:45 PM I've only done one, but I can tell you what NOT to do. Get into town at 1 am the night before the race, and realize no restaurants are open...so no dinner. Panic in the water and swim the whole thing backstroke, completely destroying your legs Ride the crappiest bike in the world. Run slow.

 If by doing all of these things you still finished, then I'd say you still won...

2008-06-25 7:23 PM
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Oops!  Double post.



Edited by JohnnyDinx 2008-06-25 7:24 PM
2008-06-25 8:08 PM
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i think your race pace/goals had a very big part to play in how you race soemthing.

I am racing at the elite level trying to go pro this or next season, so for most races it is go for broke. in a sprint i start hard and hang on to the feet of anyone i can, if osmeone is too fast i stay at that pace till someone else comes by, you should be dizzy as you come out of the water, SPRINT to your bike, not walk, out of T1 as fast as you can, and then HAMMER the bike, in a sprint for me it needs to be over 24 or 25mph on rolling courses, you should be ready to puke near the last 3rd, then T2 in and out, the run is all guts, you cant wait for your legs to feel good, if you do its too late, you need to trust in your training and just go.

2008-06-25 10:02 PM
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the bear - 2008-06-25 5:38 PM
BTTW

 

Um what if you don't have any balls? I used to have a pair of those Chinese hand exercise balls with the chimes but I kept them in my pocket and they clanged when I walked. Will those work?



2008-06-25 11:02 PM
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rc63413 - 2008-06-25 4:54 PM

For the benefit of us newbies, what is your technique for drafting legally?


Staying far enough behind the rider in front of you to comply with the rules and still benefiting form their draft. I believe it's about 25 feet minimum that you can follow while still being legal? Need to check for sure on that.
2008-06-26 7:24 AM
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Is it possible to get any drafting benefit at all from riding 25 feet behind someone? I was taught by my cyclist friends who used to road race that you need to be 18" - 24" behind to draft. [Warning: do not try riding 18" behind someone unless you really trust them. ]
2008-06-26 8:01 AM
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While we are on the subject, if I am passing someone can I come up right behind them, get the benefit of the draft, then swing out and pass them? Or do you have to move over to the left before you get in the 25 ft. zone? I know there is a time limit to pass (I think 15 seconds).
2008-06-26 8:29 AM
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The draft zone is seven meters (~23 feet) from the leading edge of the front wheel of the bike you're passing. Most commonly it's defined by the officials as three bike lengths. You do have fifteen seconds from entering that zone to complete your pass, and there's nothing that says you cannot stay behind the cyclist in front for most of that fifteen seconds. I would be careful about the "swing out and pass them" part, making damn sure I wasn't being passed before I "swing out."

I'll let the physicists discuss the advantage of drafting 25 feet back. I would, however, be concerned about an overzealous myopic official misjudging the distance and penalizing me anyway. 

2008-06-26 8:29 AM
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Subject: RE: Sprint race strategies?
cpfint - 2008-06-26 8:24 AM

Is it possible to get any drafting benefit at all from riding 25 feet behind someone? I was taught by my cyclist friends who used to road race that you need to be 18" - 24" behind to draft. [Warning: do not try riding 18" behind someone unless you really trust them. ]


Per wind tunnel test, you can benefit from a draft up to 90'. Yes, 90'.

Strategies for a sprint

1. Survive the swim
2. sprint to T1, and be in and out ASAP
3. Hammer the bike
4. flying into T2, and be in and out ASAP
5. Hammer the run with the focus of no guts no glory

If I don't want to throw up during the entire run, then I am not running fast enough.


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