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2009-04-06 5:01 PM

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Subject: Talk to me about Coffee
Since starting my masters swim 6 months ago, I have now picked up drinking coffee MWF to keep me going at work. Is there a tail of two sides when it comes to coffee and endurance sports? Good / Bad? Im actually finishing up my tall / regular / Starbucks right now before a 45 min run.


2009-04-06 5:09 PM
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I was overdoing it a while back so now I rarely have caffeine. Can't say I miss it much. Plus, the coffee was causing some stomach trouble for me. Sometimes I will have soda (rarely) or a cup of tea or yerba mate.

I think a lot of people consider moderate doses of caffeine a pretty harmless stimulant that can be good for training and racing. The problem is that you build a tolerance and need more and more for the same result.
2009-04-06 5:11 PM
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As a long time coffee drinker, I don't think there are too many negatives.  Eventually you don't get the same effect once your body gets used to the caffeine, and you can get to the point that if you don't drink it, you can barely function.  It also can wreak havoc on your esophagus.  As far as endurance sports go, I don't know of any negative side effects.  

I don't buy any of the arguments that it causes dehydration because it's a diuretic.  That might hold true if you were taking caffeine pills, but with the amount of water in coffee, it balances out well.  I don't have any links to back this up, but I know I've heard of several studies on this that show that there is no real dehydration effects.



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2009-04-06 5:13 PM
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AndrewMT - 2009-04-06 6:11 PM

As a long time coffee drinker, I don't think there are too many negatives.  ....

you can get to the point that if you don't drink it, you can barely function.  It also can wreak havoc on your esophagus.

I'm also a long time coffee drinker, but those two things seem fairly negative.  Did you mean that first line to use the sarc font?

2009-04-06 5:22 PM
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newleaf - 2009-04-06 5:13 PM
AndrewMT - 2009-04-06 6:11 PM

As a long time coffee drinker, I don't think there are too many negatives.  ....

you can get to the point that if you don't drink it, you can barely function.  It also can wreak havoc on your esophagus.

I'm also a long time coffee drinker, but those two things seem fairly negative.  Did you mean that first line to use the sarc font?

I didn't mean to use red font, but I can see where those two things by themselves are "fairly" negative.

I've had several periods (during deployment) that I had to go cold turkey and while I had a few headaches, survived without a problem.  I have had problems with acid reflux and other side effects, but have been able to control those as well.  All told, the positives have well outweighed the negatives. 

2009-04-06 5:52 PM
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In moderate amounts coffee shouldn't negatively affect you in endurance sports. Although there are conflicting results, some studies have found that caffeine can have a carbohydrate sparing effect, thus letting you go farther on less carbs.
In addition, there have been recent studies that show coffee has some nice anti-oxidants.
On the down side-it can be rough on your stomach, and as was mentioned, you do develop a tolerance.
I try to limit myself to one cup a day, and less when I find myself drinking more. I just read that it takes about a week to get the caffeine out of your system.

That being said, I almost always have a cup before a long run or a race. And, it tastes GOOOOOOOOD.


2009-04-06 5:54 PM
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The first downside is paying $2 (or more) per cup to stop at Starbucks.  Even at 1 a day, that's still a couple hundred $$ per year. 

For a cup or two per day, you're getting about 100-400 mg of caffeine which shouldn't cause you too many problems.  Enough to get low-grade headaches from caffeine withdrawl if you miss the java, but not enough to wreck your finely tuned body unless you've specifically been instructed to avoid caffeine.  Drink lots of water. 

2009-04-06 6:12 PM
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Ohhh coffee, sweet nectar of life............... oh wait, that's beer. 

I drink coffee daily, and it will be pried from my cold dead hands.  However, I'm not exactly the picture of the ultimate endurance athlete. 

2009-04-06 6:14 PM
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McFuzz - 2009-04-06 6:54 PM

Drink lots of water. 



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Not sure what you are getting at here but, contrary to myth, drinking coffee does not dehydrate you.  It is mostly water and, thus, a form of hydration.  (Yes, I know caffiene is a diuretic.  But it is not enough to offset all the water in the drink.)
2009-04-06 6:26 PM
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Mankind's....greatest....invention....ever.  Except maybe for pizza.
2009-04-06 6:28 PM
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I used to be a 3+ cup a day coffee drinker.  I got concerned as well and cut back to 1 cup of regular followed by two cups of decaf.  Took awhile to get used to the decaf but now i don't mind.

There is an aricle in this months 'Runners World' that talks about caffiene and athletes.


2009-04-06 6:40 PM
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I'm not a coffee or soda drinker, and I don't really want to start.  Starbucks or a soda every now and again when i specifically want the caffeine pick up.  But, I guess I don't really want to start something that so many people I know are addicted to.  And those that are fit into that that 'HAVE to have it everyday to function/not be grouchy/not have headaches/etc' category.
2009-04-06 7:19 PM
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I vote for not giving up coffee. I've read about links between caffeine and post-exercise recovery benefits. In fact, recently an article was published on the topic in the Journal of Applied Physiology.    
2009-04-06 8:34 PM
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Thanks for the insight - looks like I'm still an amateur compared to my fellow BT'ers. Now I just need SB gift cards for every holiday to pay for my addiction.

2009-04-06 8:37 PM
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Started drinking coffee on the midwatch 10yrs ago and never stopped...
2009-04-06 10:00 PM
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There's a related article on the Runners World website right now:
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-242-301--13105-0,00.h...


2009-04-06 10:29 PM
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gopennstate - 2009-04-06 4:40 PM But, I guess I don't really want to start something that so many people I know are addicted to.  And those that are fit into that that 'HAVE to have it everyday to function/not be grouchy/not have headaches/etc' category.

I'm pretty sure that caffeine withdrawal symptoms go away after a couple days.  If I don't have a cup by noon, I will sometimes get a slight headache, sometimes not - and I am a 1-2, sometimes 3 or 4 or more cups per day drinker, normally on my first cup by 6:30.  Some days (like today) the cup I drink on the way to work turns out to be my only cup all day, other days we have the office coffee maker going all morning, even sometimes in the afternoon.  It makes everyone happy and it smells good too!  I don't think there's much of a downside.

2009-04-07 12:58 AM
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From reading many articles on coffee and my own experience. There is no downside to drinking coffee when it comes to workouts. Now, is there an advantage to drinking coffee in terms of your workout. That is something you will have to try on your own. I can tell you that a cup of coffee in the morning seems to really help my workout. Whether it actually does or not is irrelevant as I "think" it is helping.

I make my own coffe, and occassionally buy at Starbucks. I don't drink "office coffee" or buy Folger's Yuban, etc. Now that stuff probably is bad for you and will definitely affect your training negatively. lol

Yeah, I like good coffee.
2009-04-07 8:04 AM
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It was either Runners World or Running Times just talked about caffeine and it does not have a diuretic effect until something like 600+mg. A cup of coffee is around 120-150. I drink it some mornings, others I dont. For a long time I drank every morning. I have gone cold turkey a few times without issues. I think if you have GI issues to begin with you may have some. Or if you are someone who has acid reflex it can cause flare ups.

Great antioxidants, no real downside. I have very white teeth naturally, and coffee does not rally stain them either.

2009-04-07 6:35 PM
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Mmm, coffee ...

I gave up soda, and started drinking two (admittedly big) cups a day. Normally I go for decaf at lunch, though.
2009-04-07 6:40 PM
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Coffee... Wouldn't make it through the day without it!!



2009-04-07 6:40 PM
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One word describes coffee to me: HEAVEN!
2009-04-07 11:58 PM
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Ahh, coffee....DW and I are a very particular about our coffee.  We roast our own beans and use a burr grinder.  We've tried kopi luwak on a couple of occasions.  We bring our own coffee when we travel including all of our races. 

That being said, I only have one cup a day and I'm generally not fond of using caffeine as a substitute for sufficient sleep.  But caffeine does serve it's purpose and I have no problems using caffeinated gus during racing and or one during a long run.
2009-04-08 6:36 AM
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Thanks for reminding me. It's time for my second cup of freshly ground Terruno Nayarita from the French press, with cream, sugar, and a puff of whipped cream on top. Ahhhhhhhh!!!!
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