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2009-08-06 10:52 AM

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Subject: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
I posted this in the Michigan Forum, but after listening to the audio again, I think everyone here should hear it:

Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX. It was on the morning of August 5 on the Deminski and Doyle show. My favorite is how they are encouraging people to "Lob something at their (bicyclists) heads." 

http://greatermedia.cachefly.net/WCSX/DD/2009_08bicycliststhrowat.mp3


If you want to email WCSX management, use [email protected] If you want to call them, try 248-398-9470.

I emailed them a nice note: 

I simply cannot believe that you allow this on your airwaves.  To encourage drivers to "Lob something at their (bicyclists) heads" is harassment.  If ever someone assaults me while I'm riding, I will stop and call the police - you've passed me and I will make note of your license plate and vehicle description.  You think that because you're in a car you own the road?  Look up the Michigan Motor Vehicle Code - you'll see that bicyclists not only have the right to a lane, but all the same rules apply as if you are approaching another car!

Unbelievable.  I will be contacting your station sponsors as well!

Why don't you take the time to encourage your team to put pressure on the state and local government to improve road conditions and make a 3 foot shoulder without pot holes.  That will improve conditions for everyone.
 

 

Arrogant?? Really? Send them your opinion.



2009-08-06 11:00 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
Wow ... nothing like organized assault.
2009-08-06 11:03 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
Wow. Just Wow.

Talk about arrogant - whoever that DJ is should make an on-air apology ... he's clearly got some deep-seeded issues himself, talking that negatively about people who are healthy and fit.

Just Wow.
2009-08-06 11:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
2009-08-06 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
Now you know why I NEVER, EVER ride my bike on Michigan roads anyplace other than in a county park or metropark. I have an aversion to being 'thrown like an acorn', and I've been clipped by a mirror AND a trailer, and the roads are horrendous anyway.

BTW, I'll drop them a line AND post this on that other board.
2009-08-06 11:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
Lawyers -- what are the liability issues against the radio station if a cyclist were to get hit by someone or by soemthing thrown by someone who listened to this segment this morning?


2009-08-06 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX

mr2tony - 2009-08-06 11:11 AM Lawyers -- what are the liability issues against the radio station if a cyclist were to get hit by someone or by soemthing thrown by someone who listened to this segment this morning?

I was thinking the exact same thing.  Isn't this on the verge of "Inciting violence"?  Even if they can claim it was in jest?

2009-08-06 11:24 AM
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I would think that if someone was assaulted in this manner, and the defendent even mentioned the show...it would be enough to make them shut their stupid f'n mouths and say....ooops, we're sorry.  we didn't mean it.  Remember the woman who died because a radio show had them drink as much water as possible and them her cells exploded in her body from too much water? 
2009-08-06 11:29 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
Just sent.


As a CSX listener and long-time Detroiter, I’m done listening to your station, and will contact your sponsors to educate them on exactly how funny Deminski and Doyle think that hurting cyclists can be. I take immense exception to this segment, and can’t believe you allow this material to be broadcast.  

Encouraging ‘lobbing things’ at cyclists, ‘tossing them like an acorn’, ‘Going Grand Theft Auto’ are all thinly veiled ways of encouraging people to do these things, especially as said while laughing.  And the disclaimers of ‘…not that we condone any of this…’, said slowly with intonation that every listener can tell is mocking is a weak way of covering your potential liability if someone actually did ‘…toss someone like an acorn’.  A segment on cycling arrogance is fine – I get it – but crossed the line while joking about violence.

I will copy you on the letters that I write directly to some very interested sponsors (ironically enough many of them are hospitals), including Beaumont Children’s Hospital, Detroit Medical Center, Medi-lodge, McDonalds Michigan, Direct Optical, and National Benefit Plans, as well as the President of Flagstar Bank, who is a neighbor and friend.

2009-08-06 11:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
I sent a message saying that as a member of the media I can't understand them saying these things and that I'll be in Ann Arbor this weekend and it worries me that I may be injured because a listener things these guys are preaching gospel. And I linked them to several news stories about cyclists who were killed -- not the stories of when they were killed, but stories of how they were remembered, as fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers and friends.

I also am sending emails to their sponsors, especially Beaumont Hospitals, who hopefully will see the recklessness of these DJ's comments and drop their sponsorship.
2009-08-06 11:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
People get really brave when they're in a 2000 lbs vehicle and you're on a 20 lb bike.  They're not nearly so brave when it's face to face.


2009-08-06 11:45 AM
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I petition for both radio hosts to be given 5 days off, administrative leave if you will; no pay.  Perhaps they need a refresher course on professionalism.  I understand 1st Ammendment rights, but to encourage violence as a public figure is just plain wrong.

I will also be contacting their show and station sponsors.  Whomever finds the sponsor contact info, post it here for future reference please.
2009-08-06 11:47 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
JHagerman - 2009-08-06 12:45 PM
I petition for both radio hosts to be given 5 days off, administrative leave if you will; no pay.  Perhaps they need a refresher course on professionalism.  I understand 1st Ammendment rights, but to encourage violence as a public figure is just plain wrong.

I will also be contacting their show and station sponsors.  Whomever finds the sponsor contact info, post it here for future reference please.


I'll look it up. Give me a sec.

Beaumont Medical Center (I've got an eMail into a doc that will give me the eMail addresses of): 

Kenneth J. Matzick - President and Chief Executive Officer
Gene Michalski - Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer

Detroit Medical Center

President (Michael Duggan) http://www.dmc.org/ContactUs/presidentcontact.aspx
Press / Community Relations http://www.dmc.org/ContactUs/

MediLodge

Press / Community Relations (edited. Medilodge is no longer affiliated with WCSX, confirmed)

Michigan McDonalds

Office of Corporate Responsibility http://apps.mcdonalds.com/contactus/navigate.do?link=socialresp

Direct Optical

Don't know the nature of this contact - [email protected]

National Benefit Plans

(no eMail)
Mike Purpura
877.734.2200 (office)
586.489.9308 (cell)
National Benefit Plans
2701 Troy Ctr Dr.
Suite #230
Troy, MI 48084

Flagstar Bank

Corporate Headquarters
(800) 945-7700

and

https://www.flagstar.com/customer-service/contact/ContactUs.html

2009-08-06 11:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX

Unreal.  I am constantly amazed at how little patience people have.  If you can't wait 10 seconds for a safe time to pass a cyclist you have a problem.  It's the same thing with people who get upset they have to wait at cross walks while people walk across.  Be careful out there everyone.   

2009-08-06 11:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX

Wow.. I used to be a HUGE D&D fan when they were on 97.1 pre- "The Ticket" days.   The fact that they would say anything like this is rediculous and honestly fosters more division between cyclists and non-cyclists in a cit (metro area0 not very friendly to cyclists to begin with.  

Rick I agree 100% about not riding outside of a park.  I question my rides on Hines Drive anymore.

2009-08-06 12:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
If you want a place to send people, other than BT, I put this on my personal blog too.  I'm not trying to up the numbers on my blog, so feel free to copy / paste any of it into your own blog or what not (you all prolly have more visitors than me anyway).

http://jhagerman.blogspot.com/2009/08/anti-bike-segment-on-detroit-radio.html


2009-08-06 12:09 PM
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http://www.wcsx.com/advertisers/

Beaumont Hospitals is a sponsor:
Colette Stimmell
Director, Public Relations
[email protected]
248-551-0740

Direct Optical:
[email protected]

Detroit Medical Center:
http://www.dmc.org/ContactUs/presidentcontact.aspx

McDonalds Michigan is one!
http://www.mcdonalds.com/contact/contact_us.html

A few others, but my guess is those are the biggies. Then again the small companies that support the program might be more apt to pull sponsorships than the big companies who probably face this a lot.
2009-08-06 12:12 PM
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mr2tony - 2009-08-06 1:09 PM Beaumont Hospitals is a sponsor: Colette Stimmell Director, Public Relations [email protected] 248-551-0740


This is the mac daddy one. Hit this one up first. I'm getting eMails for the CEO and COO as well. But this should be good.
2009-08-06 12:24 PM
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rkreuser - 2009-08-06 1:12 PM
mr2tony - 2009-08-06 1:09 PM Beaumont Hospitals is a sponsor: Colette Stimmell Director, Public Relations [email protected] 248-551-0740


This is the mac daddy one. Hit this one up first. I'm getting eMails for the CEO and COO as well. But this should be good.


Looks like Colette will have a lot of email waiting when she returns to work on Monday. 
2009-08-06 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
Just emailed the station regarding my dislike of that segment and the general lack of knowledge, understanding, and common sense portrayed by their DJ's. I will also be sending some emails in to their sponsers, especially the hospitals whom, I am sure, will be happy that the station will be sending them so much more business in the form of inujured cyclists.

The ignorance of some people...

BTW, while I may live in Seattle I have family in Michigan that I visit occassionally and do bike there when in town. I checked the laws to make sure I was being legal but I have never checked the road costs/taxes for Michigan. Are the roads there covered mostly by property tax as it is in Washington or are they payed for solely through a gas tax/vehicle licensing etc...can anyone from Michigan enlighten me?
2009-08-06 12:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
Done. Messages to sponsors looked like: 

Hit the radio station and major sponsors with letters. The sponsor letters looked like:

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Mr. Duggan, 

I would like to bring to your attention that your company sponsors the radio station WCSX.

Yesterday (August 5), a segment aired on WCSX’s Deminski and Doyle show that mocked cyclists and promoted violence against cyclists riding on Michigan roads. The full text of the segment can be found here

http://greatermedia.cachefly.net/WCSX/DD/2009_08bicycliststhrowat.mp3 

As a cyclist that has been injured by exactly these behaviors, and a long-time Detroiter with my kids' oncologist at DMC, I know that Detroit Medical Center is of the highest level of ethics and service, promoting only the best in care, and you will associate with companies – suppliers and customers – that are beyond reproach.  I believe that WCSX, based on this transcript, clearly does not fit this criteria, nor would you want the image of the DMC tarnished by sponsoring WCSX who see fit to broadcast programming such as that in the Deminski and Doyle segment.

I strongly encourage you to listen to this segment in full, and reconsider your sponsorship of WCSX.  Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please contact me directly if you’d like.

Regards,

Rick



2009-08-06 12:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Anti-bike segment on Detroit radio station WCSX
I tweeted at Lance Armstrong with a tiny URL for the podcast.

You never know, maybe he'll listen to it, and bring some weight to bear. 
2009-08-06 12:47 PM
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newleaf - 2009-08-06 1:45 PM I tweeted at Lance Armstrong with a tiny URL for the podcast.

You never know, maybe he'll listen to it, and bring some weight to bear. 


Oh. My. God. Heh. If that happened, it'd be out-of-control.
2009-08-06 12:48 PM
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newleaf - 2009-08-06 1:45 PM I tweeted at Lance Armstrong with a tiny URL for the podcast.

You never know, maybe he'll listen to it, and bring some weight to bear. 


you tweet? 
2009-08-06 12:50 PM
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dck4shrt - 2009-08-06 1:48 PM
newleaf - 2009-08-06 1:45 PM I tweeted at Lance Armstrong with a tiny URL for the podcast.

You never know, maybe he'll listen to it, and bring some weight to bear. 


you tweet? 


Rarely. 
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