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2009-08-26 11:40 PM
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neuronet - 2009-08-26 12:27 PM She's right, but focusing on who can do X is silly. I could run 100 meters just like Bolt, but that doesn't make me a sprinter. I could ride on a horse around a track a hundred times, but that doesn't make me a jockey. The joy is in the training, the lifestyle. I am a triathlete not just because I am physically able to finish a sprint triathlon, but because I compete in them, I prepare, I train, I eat for, I love the sport.


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2009-08-27 8:28 AM
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I'll let you know on Sunday...my Dad at the age of 65 decided after coming to watch me at a Triathlon has signed up to do a sprint tri on Sunday with me. He goes swimming once a week and spins once a week so is reasonable fit so we'll see.

He's been on four 'runs' as extra training but I'll bet he finishes.
2009-08-27 9:00 AM
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I would be curious of why the 1000 swim.  Seems like that would be more of an OLY distance

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2009-08-27 9:12 AM
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you are absolutely right that the statement is ANNOYING.  your response was also dead on.

but as others have said, your cousin is right.  i did a long sprint tri (800m/18.6 mile/5k) with NO training 10 years after I'd quit exercising regularly.   

however - I was not competitive until I trained

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2009-08-27 9:34 AM
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juniperjen - 2009-08-26 12:14 PM
And although anyone could do it one day it's a whole other beast to be committed to it and train for it and make it part of your life.  The benefits of training over time far outweigh the fact that you could go out do it without doing much prepwork ... 


DING DING DING We have a winner.
This says it all. I am as slow as they come. First race second from last, second race 5th from last.
But I drag my formerly large butt out of Bed 6 days a week to train. Some days it is not fun, but I have made a commitment. When I began I could only swim 50 yards, bike about a mile and run about a quater mile. Since i began training I have lost over 30 lbs and am not longer a Clyde, My swim work outs are 1000-1500 3x per week, last Saturday i completed my first Quatrer Century on the bike and yesterday I ran 5k for the firstt ime with out walking.
Yeah I am slow and still over weight, but i am a heck of a lot better than I was 6 months ago.


2009-08-27 10:12 AM
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13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43.....TA DA

Hmmm.  Funny how those results are precisely the same as those of some guy named Brady Murphy, a 37 year old who finished 5th overall at the 2007 Cornhusker State Games Triathlon.

5   1/31    208 Brady Murphy            I    37 M   Omaha              NE    5 13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43 

Dude.  That's weak.  Care to fess up?  Or are you also lying about your name, and age?

Oh, and the bike was 20K, not 15 mi.  Might want to get all your lies in order.

2009-08-27 10:21 AM
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Yeah, that's annoying. I hate it when people diminish something that you are working towards or is important to you. Similar things have happened to most of us. A couple of examples:

So, did you finish your little mini-triathlon (OK, it was a sprint, but one with a 750m swim, 17.5 bike and 5K run, so not really "mini")? It was hard work racing the "mini" triathlon. There is a big difference between doing the distance and RACING it.

From my boss talking to our group about a triathlon that has a sprint (that her hubby did) and a HIM (that I did): So this past weekend my husband did a triathlon and Louis did a half triathlon (seriously, my 5+ hrs of suffering in the heat was a "half triathlon"?).
2009-08-27 10:36 AM
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Steve in IL - 2009-08-27 10:12 AM

13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43.....TA DA

Hmmm.  Funny how those results are precisely the same as those of some guy named Brady Murphy, a 37 year old who finished 5th overall at the 2007 Cornhusker State Games Triathlon.

5   1/31    208 Brady Murphy            I    37 M   Omaha              NE    5 13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43 

Dude.  That's weak.  Care to fess up?  Or are you also lying about your name, and age?

Oh, and the bike was 20K, not 15 mi.  Might want to get all your lies in order.



I'll bet it's just a coincidence.
2009-08-27 10:52 AM
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Steve in IL - 2009-08-27 11:12 AM

13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43.....TA DA

Hmmm.  Funny how those results are precisely the same as those of some guy named Brady Murphy, a 37 year old who finished 5th overall at the 2007 Cornhusker State Games Triathlon.

5   1/31    208 Brady Murphy            I    37 M   Omaha              NE    5 13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43 

Dude.  That's weak.  Care to fess up?  Or are you also lying about your name, and age?

Oh, and the bike was 20K, not 15 mi.  Might want to get all your lies in order.




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2009-08-27 11:01 AM
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Steve in IL - 2009-08-27 11:12 AM

13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43.....TA DA

Hmmm.  Funny how those results are precisely the same as those of some guy named Brady Murphy, a 37 year old who finished 5th overall at the 2007 Cornhusker State Games Triathlon.

5   1/31    208 Brady Murphy            I    37 M   Omaha              NE    5 13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43 

Dude.  That's weak.  Care to fess up?  Or are you also lying about your name, and age?

Oh, and the bike was 20K, not 15 mi.  Might want to get all your lies in order.




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2009-08-27 11:36 AM
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tkd.teacher - 2009-08-27 12:01 PM
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Steve in IL - 2009-08-27 11:12 AM

13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43.....TA DA

Hmmm.  Funny how those results are precisely the same as those of some guy named Brady Murphy, a 37 year old who finished 5th overall at the 2007 Cornhusker State Games Triathlon.

5   1/31    208 Brady Murphy            I    37 M   Omaha              NE    5 13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43 

Dude.  That's weak.  Care to fess up?  Or are you also lying about your name, and age?

Oh, and the bike was 20K, not 15 mi.  Might want to get all your lies in order.




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Them there interwebs is right dangerous stuff...

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I'm sure there is a perfectly good explaination for all of this.  Surprised   OMG!!!  Post count 666!

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2009-08-27 11:54 AM
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Check out Brady Murphy of Omaha NE history here:
http://www.athlinks.com/myresults.aspx?rid=9505792

It gets even more interesting given the dates provided and the dates of events and the claim that not much was done before the event in 2006....

Event Name & Course State Date Bib Plc A Plc G Plc O Final
Black Squirrel Triathlon - 2008 IA 8/23/08 - 1 1 1 1:43:48
Cornhusker State Games Triathlon 2008 NE 7/27/08 8 1 6 6 1:05:45
Lincoln Marathon 2008 - Run-Half-Marathon NE 5/4/08 5605 3 23 23 1:20:37
Black Squirrel Triathlon 2007 IA 8/25/07 - 2 6 6 1:51:45
CORNHUSKER STATE GAMES TRIATHLON 2007 NE 7/29/07 208 1 5 5 1:10:46
Lincoln Marathon 2007 - RUN//MARATHON NE 5/6/07 - 14 66 69 3:08:41
Blarney Stone 2007 NE 3/17/07 - 1 7 7 17:48
Komen Nebraska Race for the Cure NE 10/8/06 368 2 6 6 17:36
Council Bluffs Black Squirrel Triathlon 2006 IA 8/26/06 - 2 8 8 2:11:42
Komen Nebraska Race for the Cure NE 10/3/04 2768 3 22 24 19:29


Cornhusker state games distances are:
2008 Sprint Tri-0.75 Swmi, 20K Cycle, 5K Run
2007 TRI- 1K Swim - 20K Bike - 5K Run

My apologies for the formatting.
2009-08-27 2:07 PM
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Reminds me of what my buddy said when I told him I might have to walk my IM this Sunday for the marathon due to a bum knee...

He said "Anybody could walk a marathon!".

Whatever.
2009-08-27 2:31 PM
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That actually brings up an interesting point for me. When I was training for my first marathon everyone commented on how difficult it would be, OMG I can't believe you're doing it, etc.

Why is it that this is viewed as so much less of a physical achievement? I'm going to be covering 19+ miles with only my own internal engine and mental grit. Why, then, the comments that "anyone fit" could do it without any prior training?
2009-08-27 2:32 PM
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kevmk81 - 2009-08-27 2:07 PM Reminds me of what my buddy said when I told him I might have to walk my IM this Sunday for the marathon due to a bum knee... He said "Anybody could walk a marathon!". Whatever.


Maybe not anyone, but I'd bet >90% of the folks on this site could. Now, after a 2.4-miles swim and 112-mile bike, maybe not so much.

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GMM - 2009-08-27 2:31 PM That actually brings up an interesting point for me. When I was training for my first marathon everyone commented on how difficult it would be, OMG I can't believe you're doing it, etc.

Why is it that this is viewed as so much less of a physical achievement? I'm going to be covering 19+ miles with only my own internal engine and mental grit. Why, then, the comments that "anyone fit" could do it without any prior training?


Because it's true. It may take them longer, it may hurt a lot more, it may be with additional risk of injury, it may be well below their potential. But really, not *that* great a feat.

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GMM - 2009-08-27 2:31 PM That actually brings up an interesting point for me. When I was training for my first marathon everyone commented on how difficult it would be, OMG I can't believe you're doing it, etc.

Why is it that this is viewed as so much less of a physical achievement? I'm going to be covering 19+ miles with only my own internal engine and mental grit. Why, then, the comments that "anyone fit" could do it without any prior training?


Seems to me that biking and running are way different, in terms of punishment and pain.

There was a discussion on another board I remember, where folks were comparing a marathon to a century. Almost unanimously, folks said the century was easier than the marathon, simply because you suffer much less impact on a bike.
2009-08-27 2:43 PM
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Daremo - 2009-08-26 11:10 AM As mentioned, depends on the distance.

And no, you do not even have to be all that active to do a sprint.  As long as you know how to swim (and it helps if it is a pool swim), then even relatively sedentary people can do it (if they wanted) right off the couch.

Do it well?  Or do it without being really really slow and suffering a lot?  Probably not.

Example is my wife.  We signed her up for a sprint tri (400m pool swim, 14 mile bike, 5k run) to be with her friends that she walks with on Saturday mornings.  Fully intended to get trained and ready but 3 young boys and life to manage made it really hard for her to get in any training.  She got in about 3 swims, maybe 5 bike rides and about a dozen "runs" as well as her weekly walk with the ladies over a 4 month period.  Guess what, she finished on a challenging rolling course and while she was way back and was the last person to finish on the course, she did not finish DFL with her time and she was not the slowest in any leg of the race.

Finishing most race distances are more about mentally pushing yourself more so than physically pushing.  There may be a lot of walking involved, and some bad parts, but as long as you can keep moving injury free, you can make it to the end - if that is what you choose to do.

So in some ways I agree with the statement the OP's family said.

Now, does it discredit someone's hard work and training to say what the person said??  Hell yes it does!  And for that reason it was not really cool to say in my opinion.


could not agree more.
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cusetri - 2009-08-27 11:52 AM
Steve in IL - 2009-08-27 11:12 AM

13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43.....TA DA

Hmmm.  Funny how those results are precisely the same as those of some guy named Brady Murphy, a 37 year old who finished 5th overall at the 2007 Cornhusker State Games Triathlon.

5   1/31    208 Brady Murphy            I    37 M   Omaha              NE    5 13:17  1:16  1:06   25   36:21  20.5  1:12    5 18:50  6:04 1:10:43 

Dude.  That's weak.  Care to fess up?  Or are you also lying about your name, and age?

Oh, and the bike was 20K, not 15 mi.  Might want to get all your lies in order.




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at least the thread topic is right on.......
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feh - 2009-08-27 2:39 PM
GMM - 2009-08-27 2:31 PM That actually brings up an interesting point for me. When I was training for my first marathon everyone commented on how difficult it would be, OMG I can't believe you're doing it, etc.

Why is it that this is viewed as so much less of a physical achievement? I'm going to be covering 19+ miles with only my own internal engine and mental grit. Why, then, the comments that "anyone fit" could do it without any prior training?


Seems to me that biking and running are way different, in terms of punishment and pain.

There was a discussion on another board I remember, where folks were comparing a marathon to a century. Almost unanimously, folks said the century was easier than the marathon, simply because you suffer much less impact on a bike.


No doubt. I've heard people say that a marathon was the equivalent of a double century. Not sure why anyone expects them to match up, after all, the century and the marathon are just arbitrary distances as far as your body is concerned.


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feh - 2009-08-27 2:39 PM

Seems to me that biking and running are way different, in terms of punishment and pain.

There was a discussion on another board I remember, where folks were comparing a marathon to a century. Almost unanimously, folks said the century was easier than the marathon, simply because you suffer much less impact on a bike.


No doubt. I've heard people say that a marathon was the equivalent of a double century. Not sure why anyone expects them to match up, after all, the century and the marathon are just arbitrary distances as far as your body is concerned.


I'll be doing my first sprint on Saturday. I'm not expecting it to be easy, but I know I'll finish it, hopefully with little or no walking.

If somebody put a gun to my head and made me run a marathon, I think I'd be a mess for days afterward.
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There have been a fair number of threads about motivation and the like recently.
I have to say that I think that people who belittle it  just dont get it.
Also, what is reasonably fit?
I was reasonably fit in college, and probably could have managed a sprint without much additional training.
I gained 25 lbs and still thought of myself as reasonably fit, but there was a HUGE difference.
If reasonable fitness includes having a base of aerobic exercise (30-60 minutes a week) then, yes, just about anyone who can safely swim 400 meters can do a sprint.

Not to mention, the difference between physical ability to finish and ability to finish within time limits are two different things.
Can anyone walk 26.2 miles. just about. However, many people will either quit or hurt themselves doing it. Can they do it before they close the course......not so sure.
 
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eliwashere - 2009-08-27 1:04 PM
If reasonable fitness includes having a base of aerobic exercise (30-60 minutes a week) then, yes, just about anyone who can safely swim 400 meters can do a sprint.
 


So are you saying that we should have qualification swims to make sure that people can do the swim safely first?

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feh - 2009-08-27 3:39 PM

GMM - 2009-08-27 2:31 PM That actually brings up an interesting point for me. When I was training for my first marathon everyone commented on how difficult it would be, OMG I can't believe you're doing it, etc.

Why is it that this is viewed as so much less of a physical achievement? I'm going to be covering 19+ miles with only my own internal engine and mental grit. Why, then, the comments that "anyone fit" could do it without any prior training?


Seems to me that biking and running are way different, in terms of punishment and pain.

There was a discussion on another board I remember, where folks were comparing a marathon to a century. Almost unanimously, folks said the century was easier than the marathon, simply because you suffer much less impact on a bike.


I've done a couple of centuries, and my longest running race was 25k (15.5 mi). Leading up to the 25k I participated in an organized training group, which peaked with a long run equal to the race distance a few weeks out. Leading up to my first century, my longest ride was 69 mi., 40 for the second. I've never run a marathon, but that 25k run kicked my butt much more than the rides did.

Once you reach a basic fitness level, it seems like you can bike forever, with proper pacing. Running is much harder than that.
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