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TriAthLynne - Yes I joined RTB 3 weeks ago. Small world


2010-08-23 6:36 AM
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Getting back to TTMA - 
  You asked if there were other things I would change in the plan.  Most plans I'm familier with routinely have a the long run and long bike days on weekends and a rest day on Mondays.  Honestly, I usually alter the plan and have a recovery workout on Monday.  But Monday week one is a 1500 continous swim.  I'm good with that, but it's not going to be a light workout. 
  If I were going to make significant change to the plan I would add lsd and long bikes to Saturday and Sunday.  Has this been suggested before?  If I look into the future??,? ?b?e?y?o?n?d? ?t?h?e? ?p?r?e?p???? ?p????????????h?a?s?e?????? of the BHIM plan will I see something like this.

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2010-08-23 8:43 AM
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bondgirl - 2010-08-23 5:37 AM Hi all. I've got my first HIM in November-the Shepparton Half Ironman in Victoria, Australia. I'm supposedly following the beginner 1/2 Ironman plan. Just coming into the swim focus week which I was going to greatly modify as I didn't want to do that much swimming. My legs are voicing their opinion, however, and swimming it will be.
I am just realizing the magnitude of this endeavor and am quietly shaking in my boots! It will be good to have some other beginners to chat with.
Tam


Yay! Someone else in my neck of the woods (or as close as it gets, really). If you realize the magnitude of the endeavour, you're ahead of most ... I am sure you'll do great!
2010-08-23 10:59 AM
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Fit4Infinity - 2010-08-23 4:21 AMTriAthLynne - Yes I joined RTB 3 weeks ago. Small world
too funny. I joined in January! How was Lake Meridian tri yesterday?
2010-08-23 12:03 PM
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Fit4Infinity - 2010-08-23 6:36 AM

Getting back to TTMA - 
  You asked if there were other things I would change in the plan.  Most plans I'm familier with routinely have a the long run and long bike days on weekends and a rest day on Mondays.  Honestly, I usually alter the plan and have a recovery workout on Monday.  But Monday week one is a 1500 continous swim.  I'm good with that, but it's not going to be a light workout. 
  If I were going to make significant change to the plan I would add lsd and long bikes to Saturday and Sunday.  Has this been suggested before?  If I look into the future??,? ?b?e?y?o?n?d? ?t?h?e? ?p?r?e?p???? ?p????????????h?a?s?e?????? of the BHIM plan will I see something like this.

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Yes, you will see your long runs and bikes increasing as the plan goes on. I think it's pretty common for people that have been training for awhile to adjust the plan distances based on their current abilities, so if you felt the distance on the long rides or runs weren't enough for you, a 10% increase might be appropriate. Be more conservative with adding run distance, as it is harder to recover from.
2010-08-23 1:46 PM
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TriAya - 2010-08-19 11:50 AM Howdy, howdy

I'm Yanti and (clearly) I talk too much here on BT. HOWEVER ... I used the BT Beginner 1/2 to race my first HIM and am using it now again (with modifications for my personal requirements) to train for Asia-Pacific Championship 70.3 in December.

I think it's a very solid plan (obviously, or I wouldn't be doing it again!) and also has definitely some wiggle room in regards to whatever it is you want or need.


if you don't mind me asking what were your times/paces, if you remember?

thanks


2010-08-23 3:06 PM
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I am using the HIM plan as well. Ironman Austin in October will be my first 70.3 race. I started triathlons this year as a motivation for weight loss and better physical conditioning and set this race in October as my "A" race before I had even done my first sprint.

Since April, I have done 3 sprints, 1 oly (with one still on the schedule in September), a couple of 5K's, a 10K, and a 1/2 marathon). I totally have the bug now and have singed up for my first full IM next year.

All that being said, I am currently on week 14 of the 20 week plan ( I have 1 week of wiggle room still in the bank in case something comes up) and really am enjoying the work! I have made some minor changes to the program like going to a masters swim class once or twice a week (but not on a long swim day) and upping the distances on the run and bike and sometimes adding an additional bike ride if I feel up to it. overall though, I think the plan has given me a solid base to work from and is preparing me to meet and possibly exceed my personal goals for the HIM in October

2010-08-23 3:35 PM
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TriAya - 2010-08-24 1:43 AM
bondgirl - 2010-08-23 5:37 AM Hi all. I've got my first HIM in November-the Shepparton Half Ironman in Victoria, Australia. I'm supposedly following the beginner 1/2 Ironman plan. Just coming into the swim focus week which I was going to greatly modify as I didn't want to do that much swimming. My legs are voicing their opinion, however, and swimming it will be.
I am just realizing the magnitude of this endeavor and am quietly shaking in my boots! It will be good to have some other beginners to chat with.
Tam


Yay! Someone else in my neck of the woods (or as close as it gets, really). If you realize the magnitude of the endeavour, you're ahead of most ... I am sure you'll do great!

I was a mouse click away from being even closer for a week or so. At least until my husband talked some sense into me. We really need to spend the money on the house. I just wanted some warm weather and a brochure for Bali came in the mail...oh so tempting.  

2010-08-23 4:26 PM
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The Lake Mer Tri was good.  Made all of my personal goals. Weather was perfect, Cool temps and No Rain.  Had tons o fun, really enjoyed the bike course and finished strong on the run.  The bike felt like it was downhill from the turnaround all the way back to the lake.  All those repeats coming back up the plunge gave me the confidence to take the hill hard from the bottom and finish at the top fast.   Good Times.

Would like to have more experience with hard contact in the open water swim.  (No I did not just ask to get punched in the face, thanks for volunteering). At the first bouy I received an elbow into the face, just as I popped my head up to sight the line.  My goggles were under my cap so they stayed close to my face but filled with water and my sighting skills went from bad to worse.  On the final leg of the swim I could not find the line from the corner to the final bouy.  I knew to look for the two biggest trees.  I swam and looked and swam some more but could _not_ find the line until I got closer in and spotted camera flashes at the waters edge.  By then I was way far off the line.  Came out of the water on good legs and ran into T1.    




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2010-08-24 6:04 AM
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Hey guys,

New guy here,  Goal is San Juan 70.3 in March.  Did a sprint at the end of July and have been on a winter maintenance program since.  Going to start the 20 week program in November and am planning to continue building my base until then.  The winter program is great and has really helped keep me motivated.

 

A little about me:

I started this insanity at 292lbs, had lap band surgery and weighed in today at 168.8lbs.  As long as people don't mind I'm going to use this forum to monitor my weight as well as it helps keep accountability.  Look forward to talking to you all!!

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2010-08-24 8:59 PM
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I'm finishing up my second season of sprint tris and really want to do a HIM next season. The one I want to do is in July, the Musselman in Geneva, NY. Since restarting tris after a 15 year break I've dropped 47lbs and feeling pretty, good. Another 10-15 would be great. This past season I had some issues with Achilles tendonitis. I think I'm finally over that.
So I'm looking at starting this up late fall.


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ricco1 - 2010-08-24 6:04 AM

Hey guys,

New guy here,  Goal is San Juan 70.3 in March.  Did a sprint at the end of July and have been on a winter maintenance program since.  Going to start the 20 week program in November and am planning to continue building my base until then.  The winter program is great and has really helped keep me motivated.

 

A little about me:

I started this insanity at 292lbs, had lap band surgery and weighed in today at 168.8lbs.  As long as people don't mind I'm going to use this forum to monitor my weight as well as it helps keep accountability.  Look forward to talking to you all!!

Ricco  


Welcome to the forum, and CONGRATS on the amazing things you have accomplished so far! You picked such a fun race! I visited San Juan this past November and I can't imagine a cooler city to run through!
2010-08-25 7:11 AM
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lextek - 2010-08-24 8:59 PM I'm finishing up my second season of sprint tris and really want to do a HIM next season. The one I want to do is in July, the Musselman in Geneva, NY. Since restarting tris after a 15 year break I've dropped 47lbs and feeling pretty, good. Another 10-15 would be great. This past season I had some issues with Achilles tendonitis. I think I'm finally over that. So I'm looking at starting this up late fall.


I hear Musselman is an awesome race, so well done on that choice! I love that you did triathlons and took a 15 YEAR break! Wow!
Glad that injury problem has cleared up.
2010-08-25 1:41 PM
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Dear all,

I'm from Holland and i am also signing up with this Half Ironman Training (HIM) program.....

My goal is an Ironman 70.3 in 2011. Probably Antwerpen.

One question;

Are the distances in the training schedules (pdf's) in miles or in meters?

Thanks and keep up the good work.

Maaikel


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2010-08-25 3:35 PM
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Hello Maaikel,
The Bike and Run or based on duration of effort not distance covered.  The Swim can be either.  If your pool is 25/50 meters, use meters.

Rgds,
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2010-08-26 2:25 AM
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Fit4Infinity - 2010-08-25 10:35 PM

Hello Maaikel,
The Bike and Run or based on duration of effort not distance covered.  The Swim can be either.  If your pool is 25/50 meters, use meters.

Rgds,
Mark



Hi Mark.

Thanks for your quick reaction. I'm in a 25 meter pool, so i will use meter(s).

Can you also advice on this one;

Why is RPE: 5, 6 and 8 not filled in.....? What's the meaning of that?

Thanks,

Maaikel


2010-08-26 9:01 AM
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RPE is Rating of Perceived Exertion also referred to as the Borg scale of perceived exertion.

RPE is commonly used to gauge how hard a workout is.  It's based on a scale of 6 to 20, with 6 as no exertion at all and 20 as a maximum all-out effort with absolutely nothing held in reserve.  The borg scale was chosen because it parallels the heart rates experience by moderately fit 20 to 30 something aged adults.  Score 6 is 60 beats -> resting heart rate.  The maximum score of 20 is dervied from the maximum heart rate of 200.

6-8 recovery
9-11 Fairly light
12-14 Endurance
15,16 Hard, Threshold
17,18 Anarobic Endurance, Very Hard
19,20 Power,Very Very Hard

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2010-08-27 8:03 PM
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well my last tri of the season is next weekend. The Skinnyman in Skaneatles, NY. After that I can continue building my run fitness so I'll be ready for this program. I feel good about the swim and bike. Never thought I would be saying that about the swim!

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lextek - 2010-08-27 8:03 PM well my last tri of the season is next weekend. The Skinnyman in Skaneatles, NY. After that I can continue building my run fitness so I'll be ready for this program. I feel good about the swim and bike. Never thought I would be saying that about the swim!


Good luck in your race! Glad the swim is going well. We were just up in Skaneateles for vacation a few weeks ago. I grew up about 10 minutes away.
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I hate to say this as I am trying my hardest to think positive and not stress but I honestly think I'm not going to survive my HIM.  My training volumes aren't enough.  Should I just go and try my best and see what happens?  I mean DNF to me is better than DNS.  Suggestions? The course is pretty flat. I've ridden the bike course many times.  Just need some honest advice.  There is also an Olympic choice for me too.  The HIM was really one of my goals but I am becoming less and less optimistic about it.

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When is your race? Are you following the training plan? I would say if your on track with the plan you should be OK. I think races are "easier" than training.


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Just found this thread. I have been using this plan for my 1st HIM (Rev3 Cedar Point) which is 2 weeks from today. Just finished my long run and the taper starts tomorrow. I have enjoyed the plan and have found it to be very helpful. Like most people, I have "tweeked" it from time to time but have done all of the workouts. I have added some bikes and runs as I felt like I needed more volume than the plan called for.

I have gotten back into tri's after 20 years away from the sport. Things have certainly changed!!

Good luck to everyone working through the plan. If I can be of any help, please let me know.

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2010-08-29 7:30 PM
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Lynne,
What are your limiting factors, swim, bike or run?  Once you've covered the individual distances you'll find you have a big mental advantage in the next race. 

Take a careful look at the max course times.  Set a controlled pace.  Swim Strong, Recover on the bike and Rock your socks off in the run.

Do you have time to run the half and recover before your HIM?  There's a nice HM training race next Monday, Super Jock and JIll in Woodenville, flat course with a double loop.

Cheers, 

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TriBoilermaker - 2010-08-29 6:03 PM Just found this thread. I have been using this plan for my 1st HIM (Rev3 Cedar Point) which is 2 weeks from today. Just finished my long run and the taper starts tomorrow. I have enjoyed the plan and have found it to be very helpful. Like most people, I have "tweeked" it from time to time but have done all of the workouts. I have added some bikes and runs as I felt like I needed more volume than the plan called for.

I have gotten back into tri's after 20 years away from the sport. Things have certainly changed!!

Good luck to everyone working through the plan. If I can be of any help, please let me know.

Kent


Thank you for stopping by! Please keep us up to date on how your taper is going and especially how you do on race day! Rev3 puts on a GREAT race-you will not be disappointed.
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Triathlynne - 2010-08-28 10:47 PM

I hate to say this as I am trying my hardest to think positive and not stress but I honestly think I'm not going to survive my HIM.  My training volumes aren't enough.  Should I just go and try my best and see what happens?  I mean DNF to me is better than DNS.  Suggestions? The course is pretty flat. I've ridden the bike course many times.  Just need some honest advice.  There is also an Olympic choice for me too.  The HIM was really one of my goals but I am becoming less and less optimistic about it.



Let's talk this through. First, it's always better to enter a race under-trained rather than over-trained.
Second, it's extremely common to doubt your abilities when you are doing a new race distance for the first time.
Third, it's time to evaluate your goals again. Let's talk about this a bit more.
It's ok if you do not want to do this race. If your reason is that you don't want to do something unless you are properly trained, that's fine. It's ok to not want to do this race if you feel that life got in the way and you weren't able to devote the time to the training that you feel this race needs. That's smart and mature. It's also an incredibly hard decision to make, because most people will tell you to do that race anyway, as if that's what tough, real triathletes do. Actually, in many ways the decision to NOT do a race makes you a tougher athlete than choosing to do a race you aren't prepared for. Making the healthy or wise choice is not as glamorous as toughing it out, though.
BUT.....only you know if you are considering dropping down to the Oly because you feel it is the right things or because you are scared and doubting yourself. If you are scared, that's normal. But it's not a reason to short-change and doubt yourself. If you are doubting yourself, that is normal but not a reason to decide you aren't up to a challenge. You may not have followed the plan like you were supposed to, but you have still done SOME training. Is it enough to get you across the finish line? Probably. So maybe the most important factor for YOU is that you need to do this to fight those demons in your head telling you that you can't.
Think it out some more. Honestly think about where your doubt is coming from, and what you need to do about it. I know it's a tough situation, but we are here for you no matter what you decide.
Jessica
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