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 2010-09-09 7:22 PM |
Regular  477   Washington, DC |  Subject: 10 mile race one week before marathonI am signed up for both the Army Ten Miler (10/24) and the Marine Corps Marathon (10/31), so they are one week apart. My training plan (Pfitz 18/55) calls for a 10 mile run a week before the marathon, so that works out well. My question is -- am I going to hurt my chances of doing well in the marathon if I race the 10 miler hard? I'd ideally like to PR in the 10 miler (current PR is 1:28) and run a 4:15 marathon (current PR is 4:33). I think I could easily PR the 10 miler since the Pfitz plan has been so awesome, but I don't want to do it at the expense of the marathon. I've always had at least two weeks between a marathon and other races. |
| 2010-09-09 7:33 PM in reply to: #3090340 |
Champion 7595   Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon I recover from races and hard efforts fairly quickly (at least for my age). NO WAY could I PR a 10 mile run and then perform up to my potential in a marathon a week later. No way. Just my 2c. Edited by Experior 2010-09-09 7:48 PM |
| 2010-09-09 7:36 PM in reply to: #3090340 |
Pro 5169 Burbs | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon My vote is: yes, you will hurt your chances of running your best marathon. Some people recover really easily, but I wouldn't chance it. There is a big difference between a 10 mile training run and a 10 mile race. If MCM is your A race - focus on that ! BTW, how do you like Pfitz's 18/55? I'm planning to use it to BQ (need to go 3:40) next year! Edited by trishie 2010-09-09 7:37 PM |
| 2010-09-09 7:42 PM in reply to: #3090340 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon IMO that is a terrible idea as I seriously doubt that the 10 miler one week out is designed to be an all out race effort. Follow the plan, run the 10 mile as a training run (I wouldn't even toe the line personally) and race the marathon. Shane |
| 2010-09-09 7:42 PM in reply to: #3090359 |
Regular 477 Washington, DC | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon trishie - 2010-09-09 7:36 PM My vote is: yes, you will hurt your chances of running your best marathon. Some people recover really easily, but I wouldn't chance it. There is a big difference between a 10 mile training run and a 10 mile race. If MCM is your A race - focus on that ! BTW, how do you like Pfitz's 18/55? I'm planning to use it to BQ (need to go 3:40) next year! I LOVE it. It's definitely not easy, but I used Higdon's Intermediate plan for my first two marathons and I feel much, much more prepared this go round. One of my girlfriends BQ'd this spring using the plan, and her previous best was around 4 hours. |
| 2010-09-09 7:43 PM in reply to: #3090340 |
Veteran 252 | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon I backed away from a half before my full because I knew I would push myself hard which would then affect my marathon performance! And its true: a 10 mile run is alot different than a 10 mile race...Would you be able to just "run" the 10miler?? |
 2010-09-09 7:48 PM in reply to: #3090340 |
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| Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon PennState - 2010-09-09 6:48 PM No. Definitely a bad idea. Do a 10 mile training run, then do the marathon. Yep, pick your poison, but you can't have both. |
| 2010-09-09 7:56 PM in reply to: #3090340 |
| Regular 477 Washington, DC | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon Thank you all very much. The original thought was to use the Army Ten Miler as just a training run (I've run it several years in a row and just really love the race, all of my friends are running it, etc.). I know I have a few slower friends who are running it -- maybe I'll volunteer to run with one of them to hold my pace back. |
| 2010-09-09 10:36 PM in reply to: #3090340 |
| Expert 2555 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon If they were races I really wanted to do, I would do it. However, I run more than you and I recover very quickly. I ran my 10 mile PR earlier this year and ran another 4+ miles later in the day. The race was on a Sunday and 6 days later on Saturday I ran a PR in a 5K. Both races were done as part of a 70+ mile week. Granted a 5K is not a marathon, but I think I could have raced a marathon if I wanted to. At that point I had been running 70+ miles/week for about 5 months with a high topping out at just over 100. A couple weeks before the 10 mile PR I had run a PR in a 20K. How quickly do you recover from a hard effort? Is pushing for the PR in the 10 miler worth jeopardizing all the work you've done for the marathon? That would be my main concern. |
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| Regular 477 Washington, DC | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon Donskiman - 2010-09-09 10:36 PM How quickly do you recover from a hard effort? Is pushing for the PR in the 10 miler worth jeopardizing all the work you've done for the marathon? That would be my main concern. I generally recover pretty easily -- usually sore the day after a race, but back to the routine the day after. But since I've never raced two hard efforts that close together, it's hard to tell how long it takes me to return to top form. It's definitely not worth jeopardizing the marathon. Thanks to everyone again for the reality check -- I just felt like I was wussing out or not pushing hard enough by not trying to PR both. I feel much better about it now. |
| 2010-09-10 9:52 AM in reply to: #3091158 |
Elite 3770 | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon Many many folks around here use Army 10 as the last training run. read, TRAINING run. |
| 2010-09-10 2:37 PM in reply to: #3091207 |
| Veteran 196 Arlington, VA | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon turtlegirl - 2010-09-10 10:52 AM Many many folks around here use Army 10 as the last training run. read, TRAINING run. In previous years, though, the Army 10 Miler was three weeks before the MCM, not just one week as it is this year. |
| 2010-09-10 2:56 PM in reply to: #3090400 |
| Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: 10 mile race one week before marathon meggfishy - 2010-09-09 8:56 PM Thank you all very much. The original thought was to use the Army Ten Miler as just a training run (I've run it several years in a row and just really love the race, all of my friends are running it, etc.). I know I have a few slower friends who are running it -- maybe I'll volunteer to run with one of them to hold my pace back. Yay! As a slow runner, your support and help with pacing would be very much appreciated by your slower-runner friends. You might help them PR and you get your training run in  |
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