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2011-03-10 11:54 AM |
Veteran 120 Pennsyltucky | Subject: disqualification questions I will be doing my first sprint-tri this June and have been doing a lot of reading on gear, experiances, etc. One thing that I have not found is: What type of thing could get you disqualified for a triathlon? I would figure stuff like short cutting the course, missing your heat, or not finishing in the time allotted, and no riding your bike in the transition area, but are there some rules that could get me in trouble without me knowing? |
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2011-03-10 11:57 AM in reply to: #3392036 |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: disqualification questions http://www.usatriathlon.org/resources/about-events/rules USAT rules are there. Any additional rules should be listed on the event website. |
2011-03-10 12:18 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Champion 10668 Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: disqualification questions One that I see getting violated ALL THE TIME is this: Any time you are on your bike, you must have your helmet on and strapped. This includes before and after the race itself. And... get this... even if you're on a stationary trainer warming up. Yup, I saw some one get called for this (though only given a warning), and she was an elite. |
2011-03-10 12:19 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Master 1681 Rural Ontario | Subject: RE: disqualification questions All the stuff you mentioned is correct. I'd add the following rules that may not be as intative for a first triathlon: 1. Never, ever cross the centre line during the bike ride (i.e. go against traffic) - automatic DQ in most places 2. Have your helmet on whenever you are in contact with the bike. (i.e. Put your helmet on before you grab your bike off the rack and rack you bike back on the rack before you take off your helmet.) - automatic DQ on the road, can be a penalty in transition. 3. Don't draft on the bike (unless its a drafting legal race) - risk of penalties and eventuall DQ 4. Don't litter / throw your gels & bottles away except in designated areas - risk of penalties and eventuall DQ
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2011-03-10 12:45 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Master 2372 | Subject: RE: disqualification questions rwolf - 2011-03-10 11:54 AM I will be doing my first sprint-tri this June and have been doing a lot of reading on gear, experiances, etc. One thing that I have not found is: What type of thing could get you disqualified for a triathlon? I would figure stuff like short cutting the course, missing your heat, or not finishing in the time allotted, and no riding your bike in the transition area, but are there some rules that could get me in trouble without me knowing?
I'll add riding around without a helmet on - it is a penalty, not sure about a DQ penalty. Multiple infractions of other types can get you to a DQ, but you'd really have to earn that one. Don't bring glass into the transition area - I think that one is automatic. |
2011-03-10 12:50 PM in reply to: #3392120 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: disqualification questions mgalanter - 2011-03-10 1:19 PM 4. Don't litter / throw your gels & bottles away except in designated areas - risk of penalties and eventuall DQ Don't do this . . . ever. Risk of eternal damnation and general bad juju.
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2011-03-10 12:52 PM in reply to: #3392114 |
Veteran 648 St Louis, Missouri | Subject: RE: disqualification questions briderdt - 2011-03-10 12:18 PM One that I see getting violated ALL THE TIME is this: Any time you are on your bike, you must have your helmet on and strapped. This includes before and after the race itself. And... get this... even if you're on a stationary trainer warming up. Yup, I saw some one get called for this (though only given a warning), and she was an elite. During the race, ”if you are touching your bike your helmet must be on and buckled”. Before you un-rack it have the helmet on. Same into T2, rack first then helmet off.
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2011-03-10 12:56 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Master 2426 Central Indiana | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Helmet on while with your bike before AND after the event. This DOES get called. Also- never touch another athlete's gear in transition. In my experience rarely called as a DQ, but bad form anyway. The other stuff listed (drafting, blocking, etc.) is time but rarely DQ. Littering (outside of designated area like Drop Zones in longer tri's) is bad for many obvious reasons.
Good luck in the 1st tri & have fun!!!! |
2011-03-10 12:56 PM in reply to: #3392190 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: disqualification questions sand101 - 2011-03-10 1:45 PM rwolf - 2011-03-10 11:54 AM I will be doing my first sprint-tri this June and have been doing a lot of reading on gear, experiances, etc. One thing that I have not found is: What type of thing could get you disqualified for a triathlon? I would figure stuff like short cutting the course, missing your heat, or not finishing in the time allotted, and no riding your bike in the transition area, but are there some rules that could get me in trouble without me knowing?
I'll add riding around without a helmet on - it is a penalty, not sure about a DQ penalty. Multiple infractions of other types can get you to a DQ, but you'd really have to earn that one. Don't bring glass into the transition area - I think that one is automatic.
And don't get in my way at the mount line. Automatic DQ. |
2011-03-10 1:09 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Veteran 120 Pennsyltucky | Subject: RE: disqualification questions WOW! I am glad I asked. The helmet rule would have gotten me for sure because that is always the first thing to come off, or at least get unhooked as I coast to a stop. Looks like I have a bad habit that needs to change.
Thanks everyone for the responses. |
2011-03-10 1:23 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Generally speaking, No ipods. I really hate it when people ignore this. Also, must have race numbers visable Edited by popsracer 2011-03-10 1:24 PM |
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2011-03-10 1:35 PM in reply to: #3392240 |
Veteran 648 St Louis, Missouri | Subject: RE: disqualification questions rwolf - 2011-03-10 1:09 PM WOW! I am glad I asked. The helmet rule would have gotten me for sure because that is always the first thing to come off, or at least get unhooked as I coast to a stop. Looks like I have a bad habit that needs to change.
Thanks everyone for the responses. When you set-up. Put your helmet right on top of your aero pads. It's quick and a great visual reminder that it goes on first. |
2011-03-10 1:45 PM in reply to: #3392120 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: disqualification questions mgalanter - 2011-03-10 12:19 PM There is no USAT rule that covers either 1 or 2 on your list. You are allowed to cross the center line unless it is a solid yellow line in your lane. And the USAT mandates that you wear your helmet only when you are on your bike, not when you are in contact. Of course individual races can have rules above and beyond the USAT.All the stuff you mentioned is correct. I'd add the following rules that may not be as intative for a first triathlon: 1. Never, ever cross the centre line during the bike ride (i.e. go against traffic) - automatic DQ in most places 2. Have your helmet on whenever you are in contact with the bike. (i.e. Put your helmet on before you grab your bike off the rack and rack you bike back on the rack before you take off your helmet.) - automatic DQ on the road, can be a penalty in transition. 3. Don't draft on the bike (unless its a drafting legal race) - risk of penalties and eventuall DQ 4. Don't litter / throw your gels & bottles away except in designated areas - risk of penalties and eventuall DQ
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2011-03-10 2:06 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Extreme Veteran 3177 | Subject: RE: disqualification questions to add to what has already been stated Never use an ipod/mp3 player for the run or the bike. Every race I have done that has been a DQ (no sure it that is USAT but is a local rule our race directors enforce at the least) Also pretty sure this is a rule also and most would follow it but - never touch another competitor. by this it means pushing - shoving - hitting - slapping etc. Giving someone a High Five who is going the other way on the run course is fine but nothing beyond that.
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2011-03-10 2:18 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Elite 3060 N Carolina | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Don't get in my way at the dismount line. |
2011-03-10 2:18 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
1072 | Subject: RE: disqualification questions One thing others have not mentioned is "public nudity". Most sprint and Oly triathlons to not have changing areas. Changing clothes and exposing yourself can get you DQ'd. |
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2011-03-10 2:26 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Since your race is not USAT sanctioned I'd give the RD a shout and ask him. Good luck and have fun! |
2011-03-10 2:35 PM in reply to: #3392328 |
Veteran 648 St Louis, Missouri | Subject: RE: disqualification questions the bear - 2011-03-10 1:45 PM mgalanter - 2011-03-10 12:19 PM There is no USAT rule that covers either 1 or 2 on your list. You are allowed to cross the center line unless it is a solid yellow line in your lane. And the USAT mandates that you wear your helmet only when you are on your bike, not when you are in contact. Of course individual races can have rules above and beyond the USAT.
True, but the Officials interpretation of “on the bike” is where this comes into play. At several races I’ve been in. I’ve heard the USAT Official (the guy in the referee shirt) when making his pre-race announcement say. He considers you “on your bike, from the time it is un-racked to the time it is re-racked” and made specific mention of having your helmet not only on, but buckled. I’ve raced in the Midwest,Mideastand Southeast Regions. So I’d have to say this interpretation of 5.9 and 5.9A is rather universal. And since 10.1 says “No protest may be filed with respect to matters which were observed by or previously ruled upon by a race official.” I’d play it safe and snap the buckle |
2011-03-10 2:38 PM in reply to: #3392389 |
Extreme Veteran 767 Rockville, MD | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Also pretty sure this is a rule also and most would follow it but - never touch another competitor. by this it means pushing - shoving - hitting - slapping etc. Giving someone a High Five who is going the other way on the run course is fine but nothing beyond that. The above rule is good for the bike and run. During the swim, all bets are off! |
2011-03-10 2:44 PM in reply to: #3392450 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: disqualification questions halfmarathondon - 2011-03-10 2:35 PM I've been a USAT official for five years now (I own several of those "referee shirts") and I ca safely say that this interpretation is NOT universal and explained quite differently in every training clinic I have attended. Perhaps what you're seeing is event-specific rules, but it is quite a stretch to interpret "on the bike " as touching the bike. The specific rule actually addresses mounting and dismounting said bicycle.the bear - 2011-03-10 1:45 PM mgalanter - 2011-03-10 12:19 PM There is no USAT rule that covers either 1 or 2 on your list. You are allowed to cross the center line unless it is a solid yellow line in your lane. And the USAT mandates that you wear your helmet only when you are on your bike, not when you are in contact. Of course individual races can have rules above and beyond the USAT.
True, but the Officials interpretation of “on the bike” is where this comes into play. At several races I’ve been in. I’ve heard the USAT Official (the guy in the referee shirt) when making his pre-race announcement say. He considers you “on your bike, from the time it is un-racked to the time it is re-racked” and made specific mention of having your helmet not only on, but buckled. I’ve raced in the Midwest,Mideastand Southeast Regions. So I’d have to say this interpretation of 5.9 and 5.9A is rather universal. And since 10.1 says “No protest may be filed with respect to matters which were observed by or previously ruled upon by a race official.” I’d play it safe and snap the buckle Edited by the bear 2011-03-10 3:11 PM |
2011-03-10 3:00 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
New user 595 Connecticut Shore | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Here's a dumb question from a one timer on the tri circut....if you get a penalty, how do you find out?
On the spot?
Or do you just have to figure it out when your time is 5 minutes higher on the board compared to your watch? |
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2011-03-10 3:06 PM in reply to: #3392511 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Flapjack - 2011-03-10 3:00 PM On USAT races they should be posted with the result prior to the award ceremony with your penalty added to you time. WTC races (IM, 70.3} you serve the penalty on the spot or at the next penalty tent.Here's a dumb question from a one timer on the tri circut....if you get a penalty, how do you find out?
On the spot?
Or do you just have to figure it out when your time is 5 minutes higher on the board compared to your watch? Edited by the bear 2011-03-10 3:09 PM |
2011-03-10 3:11 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
New user 595 Connecticut Shore | Subject: RE: disqualification questions So they physically stop you during the race? That's gotta screw you up.
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2011-03-10 3:14 PM in reply to: #3392535 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Flapjack - 2011-03-10 3:11 PM They don't "physically" stop you, but if you don't stand down or report to the next penalty tent you face disqualification.So they physically stop you during the race? That's gotta screw you up.
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2011-03-10 3:55 PM in reply to: #3392036 |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: disqualification questions Being rude or abusive to officials, fellow athletes, or volunteers is another way to get DQ'd. |
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