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2012-01-25 2:34 PM
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pauljra - 2012-01-25 3:20 PM I've read it can be pretty windy, what people have used for aero wheels in the past? Anyone have any issues with running a deep wheelset? Obviously a lot of variables, just curious if anyone had any major problems.

Plenty of people run a disk and a deep front on race day.  In my opinion race on what you always use.  Don't show up with a "special" set of wheels just because its windy.  I think the only time I've ever seen it out of control windy was in 2006 when it was gusting to 40-50 MPH.  Other than that, if you live in the Mid-Atlantic region its no more windy they a typical day near water or farms.  



2012-01-25 5:23 PM
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Thanks, I figured that was the case. I read a couple race reports and the wind conditions seemed pretty overstated. I live on the coast in NH and definitely get a lot a "wind training".

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2012-01-26 5:16 PM
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Got the email today, my waiting list spot opened up!

So, my dilemma is now the schedule;

No real races before 6/10, but then:

6/10/12 Eagleman

6/24/12 Philly OLY (could change to Sprint if I wanted)

7/8/12 Rhode Island HIM (WTC 70.3), paid for

7/22/12 Xterra (sport distance=sprint-like), paid for

8/18/12 USAT AG Championship, paid for

9/9/12 70.3 Worlds(if I qualify)

About me: Age Grouper, in the 45-49 range.  By the fall, I had shoulder, calf, and ankle issues leading up to a marathon in November, and trained for my first HIM over the summer, with an OLY and 100 mile mountain bike race.  Everything seems to be healed up now, though there is a bit of pain in the shoulder still.  Doc didn't find anything significant, just an irritated AC joint.  I'm faster than this time last year, and have upgraded to a TT bike, looking to stay/improve on top 10% of AG.

So, should I have my head examined as well?  I was kind of planning on not getting a slot at Eagleman, so I signed up for Rhode Island.

Why should/shouldn't I do Eagleman?  Another goal is to get to Vegas in September for 70.3 championships.  So I'll have two shots now.

2012-01-26 5:32 PM
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I'll bite.

Have you looked at the time's that got Vegas Slots last year in your age group at both Eagleman and RI? Keep in mind after a successful race in Vegas last year as it's first year that, expect it to get a little tougher to qualiy as I bet slots won't roll down so far anymore.  Just something to think about.

What's your best 70.3 and where does that stack up against the qualifiers?  Eagleman's course always brings out the fastest AG people in the area and from other regions. It's one of the only qualifiers for Kona as well as Vegas at 70.3 on the mainland.  

 

2012-01-27 7:53 AM
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This will be my first time racing Eagleman, but based on the times in my AG from last year, this is by far one of the most competitive 70.3s. Seeing how the race is earlier in the year, spots will not roll down far. Later in the year a lot of people have qualified already, so spots go deeper into the field.

As far as Providence, the competition isn't nearly that steep. Its one of only 3 or 4 Ironman 70.3 sanctioned races in New England and still doesn't have a huge draw. A point to point race is just tough logistically. Not sure what happend last year, but I know 2 years ago the roll down went VERY deep. I am not sure if all the spots were even taken. I agree with gadzooks that because 2011 championship was succesful, spots won't go as deep. But I would venture to say if you are in the top 10% of your AG, you should be good.

That being said, if I was in your position I would race Eagleman. Your schedule looks like it actually line up perfectly. I'd make Providence the A race and use this to get you ready. I too want to get a spot at Eagleman, but my 1st goal is to nail my time goal. If I don't qualify, l'll take the experience and put it too good use for my races later in the year. Hope this helps.

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2012-01-27 1:10 PM
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gadzooks - 2012-01-26 6:32 PM

I'll bite.

Have you looked at the time's that got Vegas Slots last year in your age group at both Eagleman and RI? Keep in mind after a successful race in Vegas last year as it's first year that, expect it to get a little tougher to qualiy as I bet slots won't roll down so far anymore.  Just something to think about.

What's your best 70.3 and where does that stack up against the qualifiers?  Eagleman's course always brings out the fastest AG people in the area and from other regions. It's one of the only qualifiers for Kona as well as Vegas at 70.3 on the mainland.  

 

OK, I'm kind of a data geek, but how do you tell who qualified for the different slots from results?



2012-01-27 1:55 PM
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tcj103 - 2012-01-27 2:10 PM
gadzooks - 2012-01-26 6:32 PM

I'll bite.

Have you looked at the time's that got Vegas Slots last year in your age group at both Eagleman and RI? Keep in mind after a successful race in Vegas last year as it's first year that, expect it to get a little tougher to qualiy as I bet slots won't roll down so far anymore.  Just something to think about.

What's your best 70.3 and where does that stack up against the qualifiers?  Eagleman's course always brings out the fastest AG people in the area and from other regions. It's one of the only qualifiers for Kona as well as Vegas at 70.3 on the mainland.  

 

OK, I'm kind of a data geek, but how do you tell who qualified for the different slots from results?

Ya know, interesting question I guess.  Tricolumbia in the past would post the kona and 70.3 WC qualifiers on their site under the results section. I don't see it there anymore.  That stinks.  I guess the best way is to pull your AG results from Vegas and then match those names against Eaglman results and RI results and get a "best guess"

2012-01-27 7:47 PM
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19 weeks from this Sunday it is on - game time. Been building a big base, but need to get square on a final plan. This race is such a crap shoot, which is what makes it so intriguing. Vigo puts on such a great event. Bring on the spring.
2012-01-30 7:09 AM
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Got in a good solid week of training last week. 2 swims, 2 runs, 4 bike commutes, and a trainer session. Looking forward to good sessions early this week.
2012-01-31 3:20 PM
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Are any wait-listers who got slots having issues paying on the site?  I plug the numbers in, and I get "Error has occurred.  Please contact the system administrator".

Not a good feeling when you just punched in your credit card info.

I've already email registration and the info@tri... address, haven't heard anything back.

2012-02-03 9:57 AM
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tcj103 - 2012-01-31 4:20 PM

Are any wait-listers who got slots having issues paying on the site?  I plug the numbers in, and I get "Error has occurred.  Please contact the system administrator".

Not a good feeling when you just punched in your credit card info.

I've already email registration and the info@tri... address, haven't heard anything back.

UPDATE: Called Tricolumbia, they hadn't heard of any problems, but took my CC info, and while they also had an issue with the site, it went through.



2012-02-08 9:23 AM
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Has there been a year recently where it was wetsuit legal? Thanks
2012-02-08 9:39 AM
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pauljra - 2012-02-08 10:23 AMHas there been a year recently where it was wetsuit legal? Thanks
2007 and 2008 but 2008 should not have been. It was 95 degrees at 5 am with the sun down.
2012-02-08 10:36 AM
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pauljra - 2012-02-08 10:23 AM Has there been a year recently where it was wetsuit legal? Thanks

2009 was the last wetsuit legal year.  2010 and 2011 were the only years in the history of the event where wetsuits were not allowed.  Not sure if that's a trend of things to come or just some anomaly...I guess be prepared for either scenario. 

2012-02-08 2:36 PM
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dck4shrt - 2012-02-08 10:36 AM

pauljra - 2012-02-08 10:23 AM Has there been a year recently where it was wetsuit legal? Thanks

2009 was the last wetsuit legal year.  2010 and 2011 were the only years in the history of the event where wetsuits were not allowed.  Not sure if that's a trend of things to come or just some anomaly...I guess be prepared for either scenario. 

 

WTC change the cutoff for wetsuits from 78 to 76 in 2010. Eagleman will almost always be a non wetsuit swim now.

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Fred D - 2012-02-12 1:03 PM Hey I hear this is a flat, fast, hot, non-wetsuit legal race. Room for one more? ;-)

Oh dear god.  Your back for more punishment as well?! 

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2012-02-12 4:15 PM
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Fred D - 2012-02-12 2:47 PM
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Fred D - 2012-02-12 1:03 PM Hey I hear this is a flat, fast, hot, non-wetsuit legal race. Room for one more? ;-)

Oh dear god.  Your back for more punishment as well?! 

Yes, not always the sharpest knife in the drawer am I?
I beg to differ, Fred. I'd say you're sharp as a scalpel.
2012-02-12 4:19 PM
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And just an FYI for Eagleman newbies, there is hope for a cool day. I raced E-Man in 2008 and it was mid 80's with cloud cover for most of the bike leg. It did warm up during the run but it wasn't too bad. The water temps also weren't bad as I heat up real quick in a wetsuit and I wore a full and stayed cool during the swim. However, chances are you will be racing in an oven. But you can always hope for 2008 weather.
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Dream Chaser - 2012-02-12 5:19 PM And just an FYI for Eagleman newbies, there is hope for a cool day. I raced E-Man in 2008 and it was mid 80's with cloud cover for most of the bike leg. It did warm up during the run but it wasn't too bad. The water temps also weren't bad as I heat up real quick in a wetsuit and I wore a full and stayed cool during the swim. However, chances are you will be racing in an oven. But you can always hope for 2008 weather.

 

Survey says: X 

It was 2007 when I qualified for Kona and Clearwater that it was overcast all day.  FWIW: 2008 was about 105 degrees in the shade.  Absolutely the hottest it's been in 10 years at that race.



2012-02-13 8:42 AM
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gadzooks - 2012-02-12 7:39 PM

Dream Chaser - 2012-02-12 5:19 PM And just an FYI for Eagleman newbies, there is hope for a cool day. I raced E-Man in 2008 and it was mid 80's with cloud cover for most of the bike leg. It did warm up during the run but it wasn't too bad. The water temps also weren't bad as I heat up real quick in a wetsuit and I wore a full and stayed cool during the swim. However, chances are you will be racing in an oven. But you can always hope for 2008 weather.

 

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It was 2007 when I qualified for Kona and Clearwater that it was overcast all day.  FWIW: 2008 was about 105 degrees in the shade.  Absolutely the hottest it's been in 10 years at that race.

Whoopsy.  You are correct.  2009 was the year I raced Eagleman and we had tolerable conditions.  My bad.  Here's hoping you guys get 2009 E-Man weather.   

 

2012-02-13 8:46 AM
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Dream Chaser - 2012-02-13 9:42 AM
gadzooks - 2012-02-12 7:39 PM

Dream Chaser - 2012-02-12 5:19 PM And just an FYI for Eagleman newbies, there is hope for a cool day. I raced E-Man in 2008 and it was mid 80's with cloud cover for most of the bike leg. It did warm up during the run but it wasn't too bad. The water temps also weren't bad as I heat up real quick in a wetsuit and I wore a full and stayed cool during the swim. However, chances are you will be racing in an oven. But you can always hope for 2008 weather.

 

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It was 2007 when I qualified for Kona and Clearwater that it was overcast all day.  FWIW: 2008 was about 105 degrees in the shade.  Absolutely the hottest it's been in 10 years at that race.

Whoopsy.  You are correct.  2009 was the year I raced Eagleman and we had tolerable conditions.  My bad.  Here's hoping you guys get 2009 E-Man weather.   

 

Overcast works just fine for me.  I've paid my dues on that course in the heat.  I'd even take light rain or snow at this stage of the game.  God knows I'm getting use to running when its less than freezing out there...

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Anyone else been nailed by the flu/cold? Last two weeks have been MISERABLE.

2012-02-13 1:32 PM
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gadzooks - 2012-02-13 9:46 AM
Dream Chaser - 2012-02-13 9:42 AM
gadzooks - 2012-02-12 7:39 PM

Dream Chaser - 2012-02-12 5:19 PM And just an FYI for Eagleman newbies, there is hope for a cool day. I raced E-Man in 2008 and it was mid 80's with cloud cover for most of the bike leg. It did warm up during the run but it wasn't too bad. The water temps also weren't bad as I heat up real quick in a wetsuit and I wore a full and stayed cool during the swim. However, chances are you will be racing in an oven. But you can always hope for 2008 weather.

 

Survey says: X 

It was 2007 when I qualified for Kona and Clearwater that it was overcast all day.  FWIW: 2008 was about 105 degrees in the shade.  Absolutely the hottest it's been in 10 years at that race.

Whoopsy.  You are correct.  2009 was the year I raced Eagleman and we had tolerable conditions.  My bad.  Here's hoping you guys get 2009 E-Man weather.   

 

Overcast works just fine for me.  I've paid my dues on that course in the heat.  I'd even take light rain or snow at this stage of the game.  God knows I'm getting use to running when its less than freezing out there...

Sunday morning I ran and it was 21 degrees out and windy, and after five minutes I actually felt comfortable for the rest of the run.  Amazing how the body acclimates. 

I remember reading all the 2008 Race Reports when I was preparing to race E-Man and every single RR was tales of carnage upon carnage on the Run Course due to hellish heat.   

I did hear one secret to having a superior race at Eagleman is to eat Maryland fried oysters the night before.  Sorry if I let your secret out of the bag Fred. 

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