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2011-10-13 10:44 AM

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What is the difference and important of a crank set arm length. Cant you just adjust your seat post to the appropriate height.


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husse23 - 2011-10-13 10:44 AM What is the difference and important of a crank set arm length. Cant you just adjust your seat post to the appropriate height.

crank arms come basically in three sizes 170mm, 172.5mm, 175mm. The size you need is based upon your physique - general rule: the shorter you are the shorter your legs (in this case femur length is most relevant) thus a shorter crank arm and taller = longer.

you could adjust your seat higher/ lower but realize that the length will effect your pedal stroke in the east west axis as well as the north south. example: imagine a crank arm of 500mm - you would be kicking so far forward on the pedal stroke you would lose a tremendous amount of power. The idea is to get a match to were you are dropping you foot down straight down maximizing the power generated.

2011-10-13 11:06 AM
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thank you very much. What would you recommend for someone who is 6 ft
2011-10-13 11:17 AM
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husse23 - 2011-10-13 9:06 AM thank you very much. What would you recommend for someone who is 6 ft

A professional bike fitting at your local bike shop.  This isn't a snarky response, it's the reality of human anatomy.  I'm 6'4" and have short legs (32" inseam).  I know 6'4" guys who wear 36" inseam.  A professional bike fitting will make you more efficient, more comfortable, and may reduce potential injuries.

2011-10-13 11:18 AM
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A long legged 6 footer would probably want a 175cm crank.  If you're long torsoed, then perhaps a 172.5. 

I believe that all the studies indicate very little performance difference between the lengths.  basically- it doesn't matter all that much, so don't worry if your bike comes with one or the other.

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morey000 - 2011-10-13 12:18 PM

A long legged 6 footer would probably want a 175cm crank.  If you're long torsoed, then perhaps a 172.5. 

I believe that all the studies indicate very little performance difference between the lengths.  basically- it doesn't matter all that much, so don't worry if your bike comes with one or the other.

This^^^^.  The current trend is to go shorter to open up the hip angle but like previously mentioned, studies show little performance differences.  I'm 6'0 and run 172.5.  I don't notice any real difference between it and the 175 that I used to run.



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172.5 or 175... there isn't huge difference between the lengths... its like 3/32" (not much). 172.5 is pretty standard for 54-58 size bikes. 170's are usually found on 54 or shorter and 175's on 58 or larger.

On my bike is a 175 and I am 6ft tall... but I do have longer femurs than average. It boils down to preference and comfort.

I would recommend 172.5, kinda hard to go wrong and is pretty standard to 6ft tall riders.

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I'm 6' and run 172.5 on all 3 of my bikes (2 road bikes and my tri bike).
2011-10-13 12:29 PM
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To give you a general idea, find out what came originally equipped on your bike from the manufacturer (for your size frame).  That will get you in the ballpark. 
2011-10-13 2:36 PM
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John Cobb recommends the following for triathletes.

 

4'11" - 5'1" = 145mm cranks 

5'2" - 5'6" = 155mm 

5'7' - 6'1" = 165mm 

6'2" - 6'6" = 170mm 



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There is speculation of power with the lengths as well.  Lance Armstrong pre TDF win and during TDF reign shortened his crankset by 5mm to adjust for the change is style from power to cadence. 



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mrpetey - 2011-10-13 3:36 PM

John Cobb recommends the following for triathletes.

 

4'11" - 5'1" = 145mm cranks 

5'2" - 5'6" = 155mm 

5'7' - 6'1" = 165mm 

6'2" - 6'6" = 170mm 

Do you have a link that elaborates on this? Interesting numbers there.

2011-10-13 5:51 PM
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http://www.endurancecorner.com/John_Cobb/Part4

 

EC: I noted your tip about going lower with saddle height and have noticed that Lance rides low. With a low saddle position, I can feel like I'm losing extension/power as well as closing off my hip angle. Any further tips for a rider that likes the slam-position?
John Cobb: We have never found any measurable loss of power from a lower seat height -- a high seat height happens to feel better in the parking lot. Seat heights that are too high cause constant seat comfort problems, strained tendons and toe numbness. Low seat heights help you run off the bike better and makes the rider's hamstrings more comfortable. If you feel that your upper body angle is pinching, go to shorter cranks. Anybody under 6'1" should really look at 165mm cranks for more speed and comfort.

 

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/gforum.cgi?post=3440512#3440512

 

http://mountainbikingzane.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/cranklength-1.pdf

 

2011-10-14 5:32 AM
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Your crank length should be in relationship to your femur length, not your overall height. You can always go shorter (which opens up the hip angle and thus may allow you (depending on core strength and flexibility) to get lower in the front.

And yes, you do adjust your seat height, but only after you have determined the crank length (in a bike fit, the first thing you do after you have gone through the interview, is setting the rider up in relationship to the bottom bracket and then everything is adjusted from that point)
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husse23 - 2011-10-13 1:06 PM

thank you very much. What would you recommend for someone who is 6 ft


Whatever is currently on your bike.

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husse23 - 2011-10-13 1:06 PM thank you very much. What would you recommend for someone who is 6 ft
Whatever is currently on your bike. Shane

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