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2006-04-07 12:39 PM

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Subject: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......
I haven't really done any "quality" running or cycling since about September of last year and I'm thinking I might see how I can do without it this year. My only "speedwork" will be a few 5-k runs throughout the year.

My reasoning is this, my hoped for bike and run splits in the races I want to do well in are not what I'd call "fast".

I should be able to hold my goal pace just through distance and strength riding and running I'm thinking. By cutting out any speedwork I can work more on my long runs and long bike rides.

I'm only doing sprints, olys and maybe a 1/2 IM later this year

I'll run a low key 5-k tomorrow and see how it goes. I might be changing my mind on this if I have a really slow time.

Thoughts anyone?


2006-04-07 12:42 PM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......
If you can already meet your goal time this early in the season then why even call it a goal.

A goal is somewhere you want to finish and not where you are already are.

If you don't want to do any speedwork that is fine, just don't expect to get any faster.

Doing long distances alone will not drastically help your speed. Only speedwork could do that.
2006-04-07 12:53 PM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......
"If you can already meet your goal time this early in the season then why even call it a goal."


To be clear about it. What I should have said was by the time my first "A" race comes around (late May) I should be pretty much there just by general fitness. I'm pretty sure I can't hold 24 mph for an hour today or run 7:15s off the bike.
2006-04-07 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......

Yellow_Dawg - 2006-04-07 10:53 AM "If you can already meet your goal time this early in the season then why even call it a goal." To be clear about it. What I should have said was by the time my first "A" race comes around (late May) I should be pretty much there just by general fitness. I'm pretty sure I can't hold 24 mph for an hour today or run 7:15s off the bike.

I had a friend of mine over for supper last night and he's a pretty good runner. He had been running for 4 years and did a few marathons but didn't really put in a good amount of distance. His best 10k was 44 min. Well he decided to train hard for a marathon and did no speed work just upped his volume quite a bit. Entered a 10k for fun and ran it in 38 min. He knocked 6 min of his 10k time with no speedwork, just increased areobic capacity from his high volume marathon training. Now these results may not be typical, but what works for one may not for another. Crapped out on the marathon though. Was trying to qualify for boston but bonked and couldn't finish.



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2006-04-07 1:05 PM
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2006-04-07 1:11 PM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......

Speed work has really helped me improve my run times- including longer distances.  I didn't really notice a HUGE difference in my pace until I started speedwork. 

IMO, you need to work on BOTH speed AND endurance  (long slow runs).  I woudn't completely eliminate speedwork, I would just incorporate some tempo runs and long, slow runs.  If you only train long, slow runs/rides, you'll just be able to go to the distance at a slow speed.  That's really not going to help you in a 5K or a sprint tri.  I'm sure there's others who can tell you more on this topic.

Another question- how long have you been tri-ing?  Some people are really gifted and go out there for the first time and have awesome times.  For the most of us, it takes time.  You don't get results overnight.  You only get faster with time and getting some training under your belt.  And- if you don't train right you won't race to your fullest potential.



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2006-04-07 2:23 PM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......

I was just re-reading my post and didn't want to send the message that I think speedwork is a bad idea.  I do speedwork (tempo runs, not track workouts), and since I've started I've noticed a difference.  I was just sharing a story of my friend.  I think that you need to experiment with your body and see what works.  Thats why keeping a log is so important.  You can go back and quanify what you did against what you got out of it.  Being my first year I'm not sure what works for me but next year I'm going to try something different and compare.

2006-04-07 2:32 PM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......
I agree 100% on keeping a log. I've always done that. I've been doing triathlons off and on for about 23 years (none between the years 1991-1999).

I've always pretty much tried to do some sort of track or road intravals in running but this year I think I'll be better served and less prone to injury if I just grind out 8 minute miles instead.
2006-04-07 3:15 PM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......
Eight-minute miles sound pretty fast to me. If you're prone to injury, and speed work has caused injury in the past, I can see why you wouldn't want to include it in this year's training. What are you planning to do?
2006-04-08 11:15 AM
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Subject: RE: experimenting with NOT doing speedwork......
I can't believe you're getting flak for not wanting to do speedwork. By all means, go out and do LSD, build your aerobic base and take care not to develop or aggrevate any overuse injuries. Who knows, you may push your aerobic base to the point that any speedy stuff you still have in you on top of a bigger base will help you set new PRs.

Rocket man always like to post about how Mark Allen did nothing but base work for a year and took minutes off his marathon time (maybe I'm exaggerating), but the principal is sound. Go for it.
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