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2012-05-23 10:03 PM

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Subject: Pace different in training and racing
When I run in training runs, on a really good day, I will be about a 10:30 mile.  But in races I consistently am around a 9:00-9:30 mile.  Why is it I can't duplicate those times without feeling like I am going to die while training, but they don't seem that hard on race day?


2012-05-23 10:08 PM
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Most likely adrenaline. Competition really helps to get things going.
2012-05-23 10:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Pace different in training and racing
During a run race or during triathlon? Its unusual to run 10:30 on a good day just running but a full minute and change faster in a triathlon race. Same distance? 
2012-05-23 10:43 PM
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brigby1 - 2012-05-23 10:08 PM

Most likely adrenaline. Competition really helps to get things going.


Can I assume that this counts for HR as well. Power is dead in where I want it but HR is zone 4, even thought PE and power are right where I want them.
2012-05-24 9:26 AM
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I think your training pace is probably about right for what your race pace is currently at. My training pace is usually between 9:00-9:45 but my last duathlon and 5K splits were between 7:30-8:00. I even pulled off a 6:50 mile somehow.

I'm the same way though, if I try to run a 7:30 during training it feels painful. I just throw in some speed work about once a week and trust that my slow running will pay off on race day. You can use the Mcmillian running calculator to give you a good idea for a training pace. 

It's definitely the excitement and feeling of competition that drives me during a race. 



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2012-05-24 9:34 AM
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Subject: RE: Pace different in training and racing

I agree it's probably mostly adrenaline.

I am new to tri's, just started training 3 months ago and did my first event last weekend.

My training pace is roughly 8:15-9:00 miles but for the event I did a 7:30 pace and it felt pretty good.



2012-05-24 9:49 AM
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I think it's a combination of tapering mostly and adrenalyn/excitement to a lesser extent.  If you're working out every day your legs are fatigued, so if you try running a faster pace its harder for them to hold that speed resulting in feeling like your gonna die.

Also, if you try to train at your race pace you will not be able to run as much or as often so its way better to run slower more often than to run fast and not as often.

I usually train around an 8:30 - 9:00 mile pace but my races are usually around a 7:30 pace.

2012-05-24 12:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Pace different in training and racing

IMHusker - 2012-05-23 10:43 PM
brigby1 - 2012-05-23 10:08 PM Most likely adrenaline. Competition really helps to get things going.
Can I assume that this counts for HR as well. Power is dead in where I want it but HR is zone 4, even thought PE and power are right where I want them.

Are you talking about the bike (instead of running)? I see HR is in zone 4, but where do you "want" the other metrics to be?

Typically I'll see HR and power track along each other with only some variation, after HR is given the time to catch-up. The variation can come from how well rested or fatigued I am at the time due to the training load. For me it hasn't been that significant though. If I'm tired, neither will want to go up. But come race day, both will go up noticeably higher for the same RPE. I'm able to push harder with the competition.

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