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USAT Swim Rule Interpretation
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 2006-06-30 1:50 PM |
Champion  6962      Atlanta, Ga |  Subject: USAT Swim Rule InterpretationA friend of mine asked me this question: "Can you use a water noodle to float on BEFORE the start of the race if it's a deep water start?" Apparently at IM MOO last year, they had a deep water start and you were treading water/floating for 20 min. She was asking if you could use it before the race. The USAT rule says you can't use a flotaton device DURING the race, but what about before? The only other thing I could think of would be she could get a penalty for leaving it on the course (littering). But what about the actual use of it? Thoughts? |
| 2006-06-30 1:52 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation If you swim with a wetsuit you float - is IM Moo wetsuit legal? |
| 2006-06-30 1:53 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation They make an exception for wetsuits in the rule. And I believe it was wetsuit legal. I agree that even I, the most buoyantly challenged person, float w/ a wetsuit. But she's never worn one and was curious. |
| 2006-06-30 2:04 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation What are you going to do with it after the race starts? I'm thinking possible "abandonment of equipment" violation. |
| 2006-06-30 2:12 PM in reply to: #471199 |
| Crystal Lake, IL | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation I wondered the same thing until I swam in my wetsuit and floated like a buoy. I could fall asleep in that thing and I'd still be on top of the water.
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| 2006-06-30 2:34 PM in reply to: #471199 |
| Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation No idea, but I am sure my gut would explode with laughter if I saw someone floating on a water noodle prior to an IRONMAN race.... |
| 2006-06-30 2:37 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Champion 6962 Atlanta, Ga | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation I agree Chris! That's what I said. But she was serious. That's the only thing I could think of too, Bear. |
| 2006-06-30 2:39 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation tell her to shoot and email to the IM MOO Race Director and ask... |
| 2006-06-30 2:40 PM in reply to: #471243 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation amiine - 2006-06-30 2:39 PM tell her to shoot and email to the IM MOO Race Director and ask... and to not get her hopes up. |
| 2006-06-30 2:50 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Elite 3498 Chicago | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation a noodle before IM??? my mother told me if I don't have anything nice to say I should just not say anthing... this time I'll listen to my mother's advice.
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| 2006-06-30 2:52 PM in reply to: #471255 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation Steve- - 2006-06-30 2:50 PM a noodle before IM??? my mother told me if I don't have anything nice to say I should just not say anthing... this time I'll listen to my mother's advice.
What's special about this time? |
| 2006-06-30 2:57 PM in reply to: #471260 |
Elite 3498 Chicago | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation JohnnyKay - 2006-06-30 1:52 PM Steve- - 2006-06-30 2:50 PM a noodle before IM??? my mother told me if I don't have anything nice to say I should just not say anthing... this time I'll listen to my mother's advice.
What's special about this time?
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| 2006-06-30 3:02 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Pro 3673 MAC-opolis | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation Good question. Who wants to tread water for 20 mins. before starting a IM? I'd want a noodle too!
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| 2006-06-30 3:09 PM in reply to: #471273 |
| Crystal Lake, IL | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation The Mac - 2006-06-30 3:02 PM Good question. Who wants to tread water for 20 mins. before starting a IM? I'd want a noodle too! Nice try. We all know you would just want it so you could ask tri girls if they want to hold on to your noodle. And the point is that you are already wearing a noodle. It's called a wetsuit.
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| 2006-06-30 3:09 PM in reply to: #471207 |
Elite 2661 DC Metro, slowly working my way to NC | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation Marvarnett - 2006-06-30 2:53 PM They make an exception for wetsuits in the rule. And I believe it was wetsuit legal. I agree that even I, the most buoyantly challenged person, float w/ a wetsuit. But she's never worn one and was curious. If she's never worn a wetsuit before, I'd say it's a perfectly legitimate question - 20 minutes of treading water is somewhat tiring (sans wetsuit) and if I didn't know what a wetsuit would do w/the extra bouyancy, I'd be wondering if there was an alternative, too. |
| 2006-06-30 3:18 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation Sure, the whole thing is silly, but just for the sake of arguement ... hypothetically ... In the video of the Hoyts, dad is towing a rubber dingy that the son rides in. Couldn't you tow a noodle behind yourself without breaking any rule? not saying you'd want to ... but could you? Edited by Micawber 2006-06-30 3:33 PM |
| 2006-06-30 3:53 PM in reply to: #471296 |
| Lethbridge, Alberta Bronze member | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation I'm sure someone is searching the rule book. ... and don't they let you rest on stuff as long as you're not making forward progress? If this is legal, how long before some non-swimmer tows a big inflated rubber ducky to rest on during an IM swim?  Edited by Micawber 2006-06-30 4:01 PM |
| 2006-06-30 4:58 PM in reply to: #471199 |
| Veteran 298 chicago | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation but by towing something you are increasing drag, making yourself more tired and more likely to need somthing to rest on. as to the original question, I agree, the only 'official' problem I can spot is equipment abandonment. |
| 2006-06-30 6:08 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Extreme Veteran 476 Denham Springs | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation |
| 2006-06-30 6:54 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Master 2314 Gulf Shores, AL | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation I don't know the answer to the question, but I saw something real interesting at the race expo at Gulf Coast this year. I don't remember what the device was called but it was a belt that you wore around your waist and it had a CO2 cartridge attached. If you get in trouble swimming you just twist the CO2 cartridge and it blows up the belt creating a flotation device. They had documentation from USAT saying it was race legal. I wish I could remember what its called. |
| 2006-06-30 7:18 PM in reply to: #471199 |
Master 2629 brummie land | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation just float on your back |
| 2006-06-30 8:22 PM in reply to: #471493 |
Elite 3498 Chicago | Subject: RE: USAT Swim Rule Interpretation sappho96 - 2006-06-30 6:18 PM just float on your back exactly... finally someone with some sense of reason.
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