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2006-07-06 6:52 AM

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Subject: clip on aero bar question
I am seriously considering putting on some aero bars onto my Giant O.C.R. 1 road bike. I know a lot of people do this, but I am wondering if it is a good way to go. Some of the questions I have is 1. Do they really help that much on a regular road bike? 2. How are they as far as comfort to ride in? 3. Anybody out there regret putting them on or think they were not worth it. As a side note I almost always ride on the hoods of my bike now. The thing that has me worried is I am a pretty big guy. 6'0 240 lbs. I worry the aero bars will be uncomfortable with my gut in the way. Any opinions (not about my gut, about the aero bars).


2006-07-06 7:10 AM
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Subject: RE: clip on aero bar question

Yes...they can make a big difference, both in speed and in comfort. For road bike applications (like your OCR), I recommend the Profile Jammer bars. http://www.profile-design.com/2006_product_pages/aerobars/jammer_gt.html

The short reach is good for not stretching you out too much on the relaxed seat angle of your road bike. And as for the gut, they can be adjusted high so you aren't leaning over so much. This will lessen the aerodynamic advantage, but it will still be better than riding on the drops. 

 

2006-07-06 7:32 AM
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I have a pair of clip-ons on my road bike, and I love them!!  I might ride 5 - 10% on the hoods/drops for the entire ride, becasue I am much more comfortable on the aero bars.  I defenately am glad I spent the extra money, I feel that they are TOTALLY worth it in every way.

 

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2006-07-06 7:38 AM
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Subject: RE: clip on aero bar question

I am 6'-2"  - 230 on a good day and I have a gut. ( that is slowly getting smaller)   I ride an OCR-3 and I have the Profile airstrikes on the bike right now.  I almost always ride on the hoods as well.  This is the first summer I am trying the aerobars on the bike.  Right now my seat is about 1-1/2 to 2" above my base bars.  At an easy pace I can stay in the areobars for a good distance but due to the type of roads and traffic it doesn't last for more than 10 minutes.  When I ride hard, I find that I can not stay aero for longer then 2 to 3 minutes due to the increased in breathing effort and the gut factor.   There is a noticable increase in speed for less effort while in the bars.  As Jim has stated you can start in a move relaxed position and more down as you fitness level increases.

Thinking back, I should have got them for  last season but it was my first season training and did not want to go overboard buying stuff.   Boys and there toys.

Mike



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2006-07-06 8:30 AM
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Subject: RE: clip on aero bar question
You'll love the clip ons during a strong headwind. Usually a headwind at my regular training route will bring me down at least 3mph. As soon as I get on the clip-ons, it will go back up to at the least 2mph or back to where I was.
Once you get the position you like, you will need time to get used to the position. You may be in aero position for only a few minutes at a time. I used to have a gut that would not quit when I first got them so I took them off for about 6 months so I could finally get comfy with them.

Take your time with them and be very careful there is no one near you when you start with them. Steering becomes very twitchy (something most forget to mention as they talk wonders of the clip-ons). When I first installed them, I almost went head-on with a bus right after looking over my left shoulder for traffic behind me, to avoid a group of kids I was closing in on. You can very quickly steer without wanting to at first. This is not to scare you but make you aware of something you will not know to expect at first.

Have fun and let us know if you like them

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2006-07-06 8:42 AM
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Subject: RE: clip on aero bar question

I'm 5'-7", 185lb, barrel-chested with wide shoulders and also have trouble getting too low on my aerobars without restricting my breathing.  I have my elbow pads pretty much level with the height of my seat.  Not a perfect Dave Zabriskie-type flat-back aero position, but it works for me and my physique.   I'm very comfortable for long distances.  With a history of carpal tunnel problems, I also like to be able to take the pressure off my hands and wrists on long rides.  I typically need to shift to a higher gear when I get in the aerobars, so I also take that as a sign that my set-up is working okay.

The first set of aerobars I bought were not adjustable length-wise and did stretch me out too much (no doubt accentuated by my relatively short arms).  The set of Profile Design Carbon Strykes I have now are very adjustable -  I've got the hand grips pulled back to just in front of my brake hoods, realtively close to the geometry of the jammer-style bars that Jim suggested.

Aerobars definitely do help, but for us bigger guys the trick is finding the compromise sweet spot where you have the maximum aero advantage without restricting your breathing.

Good luck

Mark

 

 



2006-07-06 9:11 AM
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I'm glad you mentioned the 'twitchy' factor because that's my biggest challenge right now. I have clip-ons and force myself to use them on deserted flat stretches. I find that my speed decreases because I'm so focused on going straight and not veering off the road. I'm a big guy as well (5'11", 220lbs) so that may add to the learning curve. I will probably stay out of them in my first tri this weekend, but incorporate them more for my next tri.

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2006-07-06 9:29 AM
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Love my clip-ons. Sitting up in the hoods now feels SO innefficient. I'm 95% in aero now except for big hills when I'm standing. Got the clip-ons about 4 weeks ago, and could never go back!
2006-07-06 9:40 AM
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I know this is a tough question to answer, but how much faster would you say you are in the aero position? In my last 2 tri's I have averaged 19.1 and 18.5 m.p.h. and would really like to get that up to 21+. Yes I know, ride more. Just curious how much aero bars will help though. Thank you very much for responses so far. Am looking to see if I can get bike shop to put on either Profile Jammers or Airstrike's today. Would like to get some practice with them before tri on July 30th.
2006-07-06 9:42 AM
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mndiver - 2006-07-06 10:40 AM I know this is a tough question to answer, but how much faster would you say you are in the aero position? In my last 2 tri's I have averaged 19.1 and 18.5 m.p.h. and would really like to get that up to 21+. Yes I know, ride more. Just curious how much aero bars will help though. Thank you very much for responses so far. Am looking to see if I can get bike shop to put on either Profile Jammers or Airstrike's today. Would like to get some practice with them before tri on July 30th.

You can expect a good 1mph, maybe more if you are set up ideally.

2006-07-06 10:33 AM
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I picked up 1-2 mph almost right away. 

Mark



2006-07-06 10:51 AM
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Subject: RE: clip on aero bar question
mndiver - 2006-07-06 10:40 AM
I know this is a tough question to answer, but how much faster would you say you are in the aero position? In my last 2 tri's I have averaged 19.1 and 18.5 m.p.h. and would really like to get that up to 21+. Yes I know, ride more. Just curious how much aero bars will help though. Thank you very much for responses so far. Am looking to see if I can get bike shop to put on either Profile Jammers or Airstrike's today. Would like to get some practice with them before tri on July 30th.


At least for me:
1 - I found out I needed to stretch my hams more before getting used to the aero position. You are crouched more and if your legs are as tight as mine were, you will quickly feel your hams and glutes stressing a bit. Stretch them constantly.

2 - I probably gained 1mph but like I mentioned, could only hold that position for short intervals when I started....stretch them glutes and hammies.

3 - I notice that every time I go aero, my legs automatically push harder due to lowered position = more top weight on the legs causing the light stretching of the (you guessed it), glutes & hams......which in the end causes more speed.

SHEESH!, What a vicious circle!
2006-07-06 2:47 PM
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Just went out and bought a pair of profile Jammers. We'll see how it goes.
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