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 2016-10-28 10:29 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
 Seattle |  Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à troisOriginally posted by brigby1 Yeah, you are on the right track as to how I think of it. And pretty spot on with duration of event or workout. Still, ultimately more about crossing a meal time or amount of time between meals than some need to replace calories in the midst of exercise for performance. Originally posted by abake Originally posted by JBacarella As for nutrition: After years of Tang (astronauts drink it) this Summer I switched to cyclomax. It's decent and does the job. I also like Honey Stinger waffles on the bike and I have eaten the strawberry with Nutella in the past, it's a nice treat. I will also sometimes eat an Uncrustable on a long ride. There are times it sits in my stomach like lead, so I didn't do it for my IM, I just stuck with Honey stinger waffles, and gels on the bike. I tried a Cliff Bar at the last aid station. It was like eating clay, I couldn't swallow it and spit it out. Thanks for sharing. The Honey Stinger waffles seem to be popular. I had not heard of cyclomax. Hot Runner and Asalzwad's posts about not fueling much are fascinating. Think it's more looking at it a bit differently. Probably more staying out of your own way. Take care of eating well outside of the workout or event and you won't be so dependent during. I think many tend to overrate how important it is during. Not saying to eat any old thing as I've certainly had some big issues myself, but more to look at it as complimenting a little instead of being a vital resource. Find something agreeable that should help a little, but don't rely on it to make or break your day as far as keeping your energy up. Hence, staying out your own way. Before going too far with that, something to keep in mind is just how long events go on for too. Even the marathon was only about 3 hrs, which is only a few times feeding at most, as compared to one that will take 12 hrs or more for most here. The training can vary too. When training more, I could quite regularly have a ride go 2-2.5 hrs and then go run for 45-60 minutes. Even a higher volume runner may still "only" do close to the 60 minutes most of the time. Some of that needing something could be just crossing a meal time, or in my case, that's a long time to go without even a snack. That's before getting into the 4+ hr rides an IM would have. I don't think what was said was meant to go entirely out or to really skimp on some of these, more putting in the idea that it may not be necessary to have as much as some do. Whenever this comes up on the main boards, some people really like to set up a smorgasbord with a huge array of food set out or packed in. It's probably not helping near as much as they think. That's heading towards magic pill thinking. |
| 2016-10-28 11:10 AM in reply to: 0 |
 93 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize. Edited by emcmino 2016-10-28 11:12 AM (Baby.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Baby.jpg (1267KB - 3 downloads) |
| 2016-10-28 11:55 AM in reply to: emcmino |
Master 9705    Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by emcmino Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize. Congratulations! |
| 2016-10-28 12:14 PM in reply to: emcmino |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by emcmino Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize.
Awwwwww!!!!!!!!! |
| 2016-10-28 12:17 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! October 29-30 Oooooh, I am so jealous of the backcountry race!!!!!! Have fun both of you and ride and run like the wind! |
| 2016-10-28 12:27 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! October 29-30 Gooooo Lisa! Gooooo Randee! Everyone have a safe and wonderful weekend.  |
| 2016-10-28 12:28 PM in reply to: emcmino |
Master 2429 Falls Church, Virginia | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by emcmino Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize. Congratulations!! Welcome to the Pod, Andrew! xoxo |
| 2016-10-28 12:38 PM in reply to: emcmino |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by emcmino Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize. Congratulations! |
| 2016-10-28 12:52 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by brigby1 Yeah, you are on the right track as to how I think of it. And pretty spot on with duration of event or workout. Still, ultimately more about crossing a meal time or amount of time between meals than some need to replace calories in the midst of exercise for performance. Originally posted by abake Originally posted by JBacarella As for nutrition: After years of Tang (astronauts drink it) this Summer I switched to cyclomax. It's decent and does the job. I also like Honey Stinger waffles on the bike and I have eaten the strawberry with Nutella in the past, it's a nice treat. I will also sometimes eat an Uncrustable on a long ride. There are times it sits in my stomach like lead, so I didn't do it for my IM, I just stuck with Honey stinger waffles, and gels on the bike. I tried a Cliff Bar at the last aid station. It was like eating clay, I couldn't swallow it and spit it out. Thanks for sharing. The Honey Stinger waffles seem to be popular. I had not heard of cyclomax. Hot Runner and Asalzwad's posts about not fueling much are fascinating. Think it's more looking at it a bit differently. Probably more staying out of your own way. Take care of eating well outside of the workout or event and you won't be so dependent during. I think many tend to overrate how important it is during. Not saying to eat any old thing as I've certainly had some big issues myself, but more to look at it as complimenting a little instead of being a vital resource. Find something agreeable that should help a little, but don't rely on it to make or break your day as far as keeping your energy up. Hence, staying out your own way. Before going too far with that, something to keep in mind is just how long events go on for too. Even the marathon was only about 3 hrs, which is only a few times feeding at most, as compared to one that will take 12 hrs or more for most here. The training can vary too. When training more, I could quite regularly have a ride go 2-2.5 hrs and then go run for 45-60 minutes. Even a higher volume runner may still "only" do close to the 60 minutes most of the time. Some of that needing something could be just crossing a meal time, or in my case, that's a long time to go without even a snack. That's before getting into the 4+ hr rides an IM would have. I don't think what was said was meant to go entirely out or to really skimp on some of these, more putting in the idea that it may not be necessary to have as much as some do. Whenever this comes up on the main boards, some people really like to set up a smorgasbord with a huge array of food set out or packed in. It's probably not helping near as much as they think. That's heading towards magic pill thinking. Anything under an hour to an hour and a half should not require fuel during the exercise. Your body will store enough glycogen to fuel you for an hour + of heavy work. Once you get into longer duration, then look refuel during your workout, starting with smaller amounts. For an Oly or half marathon maybe one or two gel and water. I sometimes to a 15 mile trail race and I treat that the same as a half marathon. If you get into longer duration 4+ then you need more to sustain yourself. Caveat is try stuff at shorter distances first, it's hell to go long when something feels like lead in your stomach. Cyclomax is like all of the other sports drink mixtures, its all basically the same stuff. Minor differences in ingredients and what they put in it. I like it because it is milder. The flavor isn't overpowering and my teeth don't feel fuzzy when I drink it. We have a boutique sporting goods store here that caters to endurance canoe and kayak racers and that's the "thing" for them right now. |
| 2016-10-28 1:07 PM in reply to: emcmino |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by emcmino Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize. Andrew is an acceptable reason to be MIA! Congrats!! |
| 2016-10-28 1:08 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! October 29-30 Go get em Lisa and Randee!! |
| 2016-10-28 1:12 PM in reply to: Atlantia |
| 436 | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by Atlantia Originally posted by emcmino Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize. Congrats! Very cute. My wife is 14 weeks pregnant with our second. In celebration of it being Friday I decided to sign up for the Dallas Marathon today. It's Dec 11th and I'm excited to run my 1st marathon. Hopefully it's not too painful . |
| 2016-10-28 1:34 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks |
| 2016-10-28 1:37 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by rrrunner So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks Woo hoo! What 100 are you considering (or is that secret)? |
| 2016-10-28 1:45 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by rrrunner So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks Woo hoo! What 100 are you considering (or is that secret)? I am looking at the Ft. Clinch 100 on Amelia Island in March. I figure if DS2 isn't under water at that point then he'll either be in Kings Bay or Norfolk. Hopefully he'll be able to get some days off to either hang out or maybe even pace me for a few (or 50) miles. Edited by rrrunner 2016-10-28 1:45 PM |
| 2016-10-28 1:56 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! October 29-30 Itsy bitsy race list this week. GOOOOO racers!!!! Have fun out there! |
| 2016-10-28 1:58 PM in reply to: emcmino |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by emcmino Hey Manatee's, I have been MIA for a few weeks now and just wanted to give a proof of life post. I hope everyone is doing well. I also wanted to introduce you to the newest Manatee Andrew. He has been keeping me very busy. Sorry it is so big, not sure how to resize. Oh, he's so adorable!! Congrats, proud papa! |
| 2016-10-28 1:59 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by rrrunner So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks 100!!!! Wow!! |
| 2016-10-28 2:04 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by rrrunner So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks Woo hoo! What 100 are you considering (or is that secret)? I am looking at the Ft. Clinch 100 on Amelia Island in March. I figure if DS2 isn't under water at that point then he'll either be in Kings Bay or Norfolk. Hopefully he'll be able to get some days off to either hang out or maybe even pace me for a few (or 50) miles. How exciting! |
| 2016-10-28 2:04 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by jmkizer Racing Manatees!!! October 29-30 Itsy bitsy race list this week. GOOOOO racers!!!! Have fun out there! I think that we'll make up for it next week. And no DL! |
| 2016-10-28 2:12 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by rrrunner So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks 100!!!! Wow!! Whaddaya mean "Wow"?! You helped talk me in to it! Remember that conversation? |
| 2016-10-28 2:45 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by rrrunner So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks 100! Wow, very exciting!! And, congrats on finding the coach. |
| 2016-10-28 2:54 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by melbo55 Originally posted by rrrunner So speaking of 2017... I just got of the phone with a coach who I think (and he thinks) will be a good fit to transition me from my 50 to my 100!!!! I talked to him about other commitments, and he is on the same page about recovery periods for masters runners. As a matter of fact I read an article he'd written a few months ago and that's when I backed off my running days. I think it's been effective but I guess I'll see in about 3 weeks 100!!!! Wow!! Whaddaya mean "Wow"?! You helped talk me in to it! Remember that conversation? Ha ha ha, that's right!!! Edited by melbo55 2016-10-28 2:56 PM |
But 100 miles still deserves a wow!| 2016-10-28 2:56 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
| Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois I have a very bad case of the Fridays which means I finally got around to finishing my the race report for the Wineglass Half Marathon that I did at the beginning of October. It's wordy, as usual. |
| 2016-10-28 8:39 PM in reply to: melbo55 |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois Work ran a benefit 5k at a nearby park where the entry is to get a bunch of canned goods that will be donated to a local food pantry. Have been feeling pretty good running, so thought to try a little faster than easy this time, at least in sections. Last week was ~9:00/mi, so maybe like 8:30 and pick it up late. Ran it largely by feel and turns out I split ~8:00, 7:30, 7:00 and that extra bit ~6:30 to end up at 23:23 total (28:07 last week). Felt good, did something, but well short of spent so things seem to be coming along there. Afterward there was a raffle with lots of stuff given away. Won a 1-year membership to the gym (~$100 value). Good finish to the week/start to the weekend. |
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