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2017-03-04 10:04 PM


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Subject: relentlessness
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Just wondering if any one else finds their training a bit overwhelming and relentless at times? I'm only training for a HIM and I'm not very good at anything so I think that wears me out, but the last couple of weeks I just feel tired all the time, a bit down and half want to give it up.
I'm also training to run by HR and am very frustrated that I am still having to walk to keep my HR down, feel like I'm never going to be able to do it.
Maybe I'm just having an off couple of weeks


2017-03-05 12:26 AM
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Subject: RE: relentlessness
Yes, anything worth doing is sometimes hard, and can at times become something of a grind. Particularly if it's your first HIM, it's a big step up in volume for most people, and the hours get pretty long at some point. Fitness also doesn't usually increase in a linear way, which can be frustrating--one tends to plateau for a while before making progress. And with training for longer events in particular, cumulative fatigue can cause you to seem to temporarily lose fitness--going slower at the same effort, higher than expected heart rates for pace/power, etc. Some of it is just part of the process.

But you might also take a look at recovery. Are you taking regularly scheduled easy/active recovery/rest days? Recovery weeks every 3-4 weeks where you do substantially less volume? Also look at sleep--are you getting enough? With iron-distance training, you'll most likely be needing an additional hour or so on top of the 7-8 hours that most adults need (but often don't get). Finally, what does your diet look like? Are you eating enough extra calories to support the additional training load, and getting a good balance of protein, carbs, and healthy fats? Many athletes, especially women, tend to eat a diet that's too low in all of those, as well as iron. HIM (or, worse yet, IM) training really isn't the best time to follow a restrictive diet or try to lose weight.

Finally, if it's mostly mental, can you change things up a little? Try a new running route or do some trail running, or find some people to train with, or do some biking as part of a spin class, or something? I train probably 95% solo most of the year, and often I find that what's really wearing me down isn't so much physical as mental--just getting bored sometimes with my own company!
2017-03-05 7:09 AM
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X2 for the above reply.

I'm training for my second HIM this year. Long bikes have always been boring for me, especially when on the trainer. I zwift which has helped a bunch.
I too am working on heart rate zones as well and end up having to walk a lot more than I need to. In the end pace ends up being slower than I want or am capable of but I also know to trust the process.
Once we learn to let go of pacing it does become more fun again. Find somebody to run with. That helped me a lot. My training partner and I run together once a week for at least an hour. She is one of the few people who I can talk to on longer runs. The fact that we don't talk on a daily basis helps, because there is always something to talk about.
Rest days a critical. Be sure and take a day off if needed. Your body knows what it wants and needs. You don't want to get an overuse injury that could keep you down for a while.
2017-03-06 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: relentlessness

Originally posted by loops hi Just wondering if any one else finds their training a bit overwhelming and relentless at times? I'm only training for a HIM and I'm not very good at anything so I think that wears me out, but the last couple of weeks I just feel tired all the time, a bit down and half want to give it up. I'm also training to run by HR and am very frustrated that I am still having to walk to keep my HR down, feel like I'm never going to be able to do it. Maybe I'm just having an off couple of weeks

Hi - congrats on training for a HIM!

Couple things that I hope will help (in addition to saying both above posts are great perspective).  First, it's not "only" a HIM.  It's a HIM - wooohoooooo!  Aiming for that is a great target and should not be minimized.

Second, you're already better at this than someone who isn't out there getting after a personal goal.  It's all relative, as VERY few of us are ever first OR last across the line... 

As for the grind, yep, it almost certainly will be at times.  A HIM is a long day, first time around.   As above, do make sure you have some "step backs" in your training.  For some people that's a light week every fourth.  Others, every third.  Still others, it's sport by sport and day by day (more of a rolling recovery, if that makes sense).  In the end, you have to be sure that you have enough easy to balance the hard, is all - but if you don't, then you can burn out.

If it's not recovery (as in, you're just getting ground down mentally), you can either push through or reassess your goals.  I don't mean to discourage you, just to say that some level of fatigue is totally normal, but if it's more than is bearable (within the context of having fun - I'm assuming you're in this for fun), then you can look at your goals and if there's a drop in training that could correspond to a change in goals. 

I hope you find the balance that works for you, at this point in time and enjoy!

Matt

2017-03-08 2:09 PM
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Agree with the Saigon Queen.

FWIW: I love training (& the bragging rights). That said, perhaps you are doing too much/too soon &/or is this YOUR "thing"?
2017-03-09 4:11 AM
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Originally posted by Porfirio

Agree with the Saigon Queen.




OMG! I think my fellow fast female triathlete (Sophie, 25, about my speed overall, but way faster on the bike and getting faster all the time while I am getting older and slower) might take exception to that. Or maybe she can be the princess?! We do have a king here (in 50-54, he did Kona last year), as well as a 30-something prince. Guess we are set as far as royalty goes.


2017-03-09 7:50 AM
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I definitely agree with the posts above in regard to recovery and listening to your body. It's amazing what a few nights of good sleep can even do.

However, for me when I start to feel "down" or in need of motivation it only takes reading a few inspirational quotes or seeing something on TV that puts me in the frame of mind that everything is relative. I mean, can I really be complaining about running 3 miles when there is so much in the world that I should be grateful for? There's going to be one day that I won't be able to do this stuff and I suppose I use that line of thinking just to push me a little bit more.
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