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2007-03-20 8:49 AM

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Subject: What bike should I buy?
OK. Here’s another basic question for everyone.

What quality/type/cost of bike should I buy?

Don’t even ask what I’m riding now. I'm not going to give you the pleasure of laughing at my expense. :-)

I try to be humble, so I will let you all know that realize that just because I buy an expensive bike it won’t make me go faster. (Which brings up a side question – what is a FRED? ). I just want to know what I should be investing in since I will be doing riding more often and hope to get better.

More questions regarding the specifics of the bike will come later. I generally start thinking about more details as I get more information.

Thanks everyone!

Paul


2007-03-20 8:58 AM
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Subject: RE: What bike should I buy?
No one can really answer this question other than with generalities and more questions back to you.

Cost is totally personal. What is a good bike worth to you and what can you spend on it? In my opinion, if you've got $5 or $6k to go drop on a bike that you ride at 15 mph and it's worth it to you, then go for it. If you've got the money, but don't think it's worth the investment, spend less. So figure out your budget first.

Type - What are you primarily using it for? I've got a road bike that I never ride because I don't do group rides or centuries, etc. My riding is training for tris and so I ride my tri bike pretty much exclusively.

Quality will be dictated mostly by how much you're willing to spend.

Once you've figured out the first two, then it's easy: buy a bike that fits!
2007-03-20 9:12 AM
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I hear the red ones are pretty fast!

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2007-03-20 9:14 AM
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I will tell you what BT users told me.....Buy the one that fits! And if it's red, buy some black spray paint as well!
2007-03-20 9:16 AM
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the bear - 2007-03-20 9:12 AM

I hear the red ones are pretty fast!

Cool



Bright red or dark red? Which is better?
2007-03-20 9:18 AM
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I think you want to me sure to go with a bike that fits and has decent components. I bought an entry level last year and am already upgrading. Wish I had just bought a better bike to begin with. Go with something that has Shimano 105 components at the very least.


2007-03-20 9:21 AM
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seaduspx - 2007-03-20 9:16 AM
the bear - 2007-03-20 9:12 AM

I hear the red ones are pretty fast!

Cool

Bright red or dark red? Which is better?

Doesn't matter, even the light red (pink) ones are fast, if you wish to get in touch with your feminine side.

Ryan had a good idea, though, especially if you're just starting and find red bikes a little intimidating. A little black spray paint has been known to slow things down significantly. Then, as your skills progress, a little paint remover will restore the red bike speed.

Cool

2007-03-20 9:24 AM
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SuzanneS - 2007-03-20 9:18 AM I think you want to me sure to go with a bike that fits and has decent components. I bought an entry level last year and am already upgrading. Wish I had just bought a better bike to begin with. Go with something that has Shimano 105 components at the very least.

Got to disagree here, buy something within your budget. I started on a $650 entry-level Specialized Allez with mostly Sora components, put over 10,000 trouble-free miles on that bike before I upgraded. Even then it was more for the frame upgrade than the components.

If I felt I had to spend $1000+ for a 105-level bike, I may have never started cycling.

2007-03-20 10:32 AM
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It all depends on your budget. I think you should plan on at least $600 + accessories though. Below that and you have a hard time finding a quality bike.  From there you can go up to $3000+.   Decide what you will be using the bike for (as in only Triathlon or all kinds of road riding) and then go see what you can afford. The local bike shop should be able to answer all your questions and recommend bikes that fit you and fit in with your riding needs and budget.

 

 



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2007-03-20 10:44 AM
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the bear - 2007-03-20 7:21 AM
seaduspx - 2007-03-20 9:16 AM
the bear - 2007-03-20 9:12 AM

I hear the red ones are pretty fast!

Cool

Bright red or dark red? Which is better?

Doesn't matter, even the light red (pink) ones are fast, if you wish to get in touch with your feminine side.

Ryan had a good idea, though, especially if you're just starting and find red bikes a little intimidating. A little black spray paint has been known to slow things down significantly. Then, as your skills progress, a little paint remover will restore the red bike speed.

Cool

You have outlasted me in a game of wits.  Beautiful comeback Bear!  Laughed out loud at work, now coworkers are wondering why my job is so funny.

2007-03-20 1:28 PM
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You should buy a bike that you will ride a lot.

It should fit you reasonably well. It should be within your budget (maybe a little stretch). You should like the cosmetics (color etc). The more you like your bike, the more likely you are to ride it a lot.

Beyond that, what matters is the riding, everything else is full of sound and fury signifing nothing.



2007-03-22 8:50 AM
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Okay, I gotta ask this question. I am not trying to be a smart a$$.

All else being equal, how much faster will one be with a $300 versus a $600 versus a $1500 bike? Excluding red ones, because we all know that there’s no question about their speed.
2007-03-22 9:00 AM
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seaduspx - 2007-03-22 8:50 AM Okay, I gotta ask this question. I am not trying to be a smart a$$. All else being equal, how much faster will one be with a $300 versus a $600 versus a $1500 bike? Excluding red ones, because we all know that there’s no question about their speed.

Chances are the $1500 bike will be no faster than the $300 bike, given that each is powered by the same engine.

What you get with the more expensive bikes is (theoretically) a better designed and constructed frame, possible made of better materials, more expensive alloys, etc., and better components that add durability, accuracy and precision.

As you add to the cost of the bike, you get increasingly fewer marginal benefits (principle of diminishing returns). It's really up to you to determine the equlibrium point at which an additional dollar spent gives you a marginal benefit that is worth less than a dollar.

2007-03-22 9:26 AM
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I think it's compelling that manufacturers like Trek make several versions of their bikes on the same frame and just change the components, which tells me that if you want to make an economical decision you need to know your components. For instance I bought a Trek 1000 because versus other bikes in that price range I got a Shimano Tiagra rear derrailleur versus Sora. (I didn't know how much I would love biking at the time! I would have probably went with 105s). I would recommend learning the component levels so that when you are looking at bikes that you like the look of, you can compare which one is really better.

After that, I think that buying a bike is much like finding a mate. When you know, you know. When I finally got on the right bike, in the right size, it was like magic. It was fun and I felt powerful! Try as many as you can before deciding.

Edited to say that I would also recommend trying different sizes in same bike before settling, unless everything feels perfect. I went to several bike shops that eyed me up and said I needed a 54 cm frame. Well, I really needed a 51. I lucked into that knowledge and am so glad I waited until it felt right.

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2007-03-22 9:29 AM
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I appreciate the feedback from everyone that answered…I really do.

I’m looking at purchasing a new bike, as the title suggests, but I gotta be honest – I got a little nervous when some of these $ figures started getting thrown around. I’m not naïve about the prices of bikes, but as I look at what I’m trying to accomplish, I think that it would be better for me to invest in something that fits me.
2007-03-22 9:30 AM
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seaduspx - 2007-03-22 8:50 AM

Okay, I gotta ask this question. I am not trying to be a smart a$$.

All else being equal, how much faster will one be with a $300 versus a $600 versus a $1500 bike? Excluding red ones, because we all know that there’s no question about their speed.


For speed, I would suggest getting aerobars. If you are considering a road vs. tri bike, don't leave the shop without the clipon bars at least. Now THAT will increase your speed

Edited by BikerGrrrl 2007-03-22 9:31 AM


2007-03-22 9:34 AM
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seaduspx - 2007-03-22 9:29 AM

I appreciate the feedback from everyone that answered…I really do.

I’m looking at purchasing a new bike, as the title suggests, but I gotta be honest – I got a little nervous when some of these $ figures started getting thrown around. I’m not naïve about the prices of bikes, but as I look at what I’m trying to accomplish, I think that it would be better for me to invest in something that fits me.


I totally understand that! I was sick about the prospect of spending $700 on the Trek, not knowing how it would go and if it was worth it. Not to mention you can't return the darn things once you've used them. I felt like that Trek 1000 was a very good entry level purchase, for the component level versus price. With that, shoes, pedals, aerobars, etc., I am still in under $1000 and I would say it was worth the money. Good luck!
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seaduspx - 2007-03-22 9:29 AM

  • .. but I gotta be honest – I got a little nervous when some of these $ figures started getting thrown around.


  • I think that's everyone's first reaction. But, honestly, once you get on the bike, and you determine that this is right for you, then those prices don't seem so crazy, and you'll get an understanding of what the additional money can get you. My wife bought a $100 bike as a "trial" bike to see if this is what she loved, and it was, so 2 additional bikes later, she's in the $2500 range. If you absolutely know that you love to bike already, then get something a little above what you're comfortable with and grow into it.
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    the bear - 2007-03-20 10:24 AM

    SuzanneS - 2007-03-20 9:18 AM I think you want to me sure to go with a bike that fits and has decent components. I bought an entry level last year and am already upgrading. Wish I had just bought a better bike to begin with. Go with something that has Shimano 105 components at the very least.

    Got to disagree here, buy something within your budget. I started on a $650 entry-level Specialized Allez with mostly Sora components, put over 10,000 trouble-free miles on that bike before I upgraded. Even then it was more for the frame upgrade than the components.

    If I felt I had to spend $1000+ for a 105-level bike, I may have never started cycling.

     

    I somewhat second this opinion.  I have started out with a $600 trek 1500.  Have ridden it for a year so far with no problems.  Almost 800 miles or so on it.  ( I KNOW BEAR MORE T.I.T.S)     But beside the fact components aren't the most important thing.  Fit is.  If your on an improperly fitted bike and try to ride 20-50 miles you will feel it fairly quickly, if you have a poor fit 

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    the bear - 2007-03-20 11:24 AM

    Got to disagree here, buy something within your budget. I started on a $650 entry-level Specialized Allez with mostly Sora components, put over 10,000 trouble-free miles on that bike before I upgraded. Even then it was more for the frame upgrade than the components.

    If I felt I had to spend $1000+ for a 105-level bike, I may have never started cycling.



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    I started on a department store road bike that had no name components and weighed close to 30lbs. After one season (and some wheel trouble) I upgraded to a used Trek 2000 with Tiagra components. The Tiagra has been extremely reliable and I don't notice a difference in shifting or performance when I go back and forth between my tri bike (105/ultegra mix) and road bike.

    If I had to do it all over again, I would have skipped the department store road bike and saved up the money for an entry level bike with Sora or Tiagra components for just a little more. At that point, any upgrades you make are probably because you want to as opposed to need to.

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