Where to start with a bike upgrade?
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2004-09-07 5:28 AM |
Expert 774 England | Subject: Where to start with a bike upgrade? I have been drooling over a new bike, with all the threads showing everyone's shiny new steeds, but can't really bring myself to spend all that cash just yet. I have a year 2000 Trek 1000 triple that I've had since new but hasn't covered that many miles (bought it as I turned 30 in a 'must get fit' kind of fit of enthusiasm, but after a busy 2000 it hung on the wall of the garage until late last year when I committed to tri's...). I have a much improved saddle and Speedplay clipless pedals. I've read lot of reviews of the bike and people seem to suggest the following: Strengths Weaknesses The bike needs a good service after a fairly busy year this year and I was thinking of spending a little to upgrade her for another season or so or training and racing. I quite like the triple as its hilly where I am and my climbing is poor, and it is helping me with longer, low HR rides. Where should I start to get the most improvement for my $$ eg wheels, tyres, drivetrain etc. The current niggles I have are: 1. weight (she ways ~24lbs) I have no idea what cost these upgrades might have and whether it is even economical, so maybe you can correct me if I'm wasting my time here? When the time comes I'm looking at bikes like the lovely Cannondale, Cervelo's, Felts that many of you seem to have but the $1500 bikes are equivalent to about $2500-2700 in UK prices. Thanks for your input. |
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2004-09-07 7:40 AM in reply to: #58421 |
Resident Matriarch N 43° 32.927 W 071° 24.431 | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? well, I'm just going to tell you to skip the whole upgrade thing, take the plunge and buy a new tri bike. You won't be sorry! But of course you should expect to hear that from me this week |
2004-09-07 7:52 AM in reply to: #58421 |
Expert 774 England | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? I would have been disappointed with anything less! |
2004-09-07 8:20 AM in reply to: #58421 |
Champion 6786 Two seat rocket plane | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? The best upgrade you can make is new, lighter wheels and tires. Followed by clip-on aero-bars. These have the advantage of being transferable to a new, better bike. If I were you, I would not do any more than that on a Trek 1000. They're great entry-level bikes, but by the time you upgrade enough components to make a difference in performance (besides wheels, tires, and maybe aerobars) you will be into a "new bike money" neighborhood. |
2004-09-07 8:48 AM in reply to: #58421 |
Champion 4902 Ottawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Clip on aerobars and a forward seat post are two relatively inexpensive additions you could add to your Trek 1000 to make it a bit more aero. Before you do anything though, find a good tri bike shop and have them measure everything and show you how to position your bars and/or seat; you will be glad you did. A good wheelset would be great but slightly more expensive. I, being the cheap person that I am, just bought racing tires; they are light, treadless and almost perfectly round so as to have as little surface contact as possible thereby reducing friction. PS. With the favourable exchange rate and the MFN tariff status, the Cervélo should not be too far out of reach for a UK resident. |
2004-09-07 10:18 AM in reply to: #58458 |
Expert 774 England | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Thanks for the tips. I took a trip to my LBS at lunchtime and soon realised the same thing - I'd spend nearly half the price of a new bike by getting wheels, tyres & upgrading the drivetrain. Machiavelo - What did you mean about the MFN status making the Dual affordable? I have been thinking about getting one imported and paying shipping but would have to pay 17.5% VAT on the price when it entered the country. I am in the US in a few weeks and even wondered about bringing one back with me, but that means I have to find soemthing in the limited time and travel I have in SD. Even with taxes, assuming I could get the airline to carry it and not damage it, it would save me about £500/$800! The other question is tri bike or road bike? My LBS tried to push me on road bikes (Trek or Spesh) although they did have a Trek Equinox 7 there as well. Their argument was the tri bikes are stiffer (more uncomfortable) ride, more expensive, less suited to longer training rides etc. I took a few Treks around the block (1400, 1500 a carbon one) and a Spec Allez Comp - all felt great with the Specialized feeling much smaller under me and a much less harsh ride. I cant imagine getting tri bars on the Treks as they seem very stretched already but the Allez seemed less of a reach and more suited to tri bars. I cant help feeling I need to test ride a tri bike as well and really see if its any less suited to what I do. I think I need to speak with a tri specific bike shop and get their input as well..... |
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2004-09-07 10:33 AM in reply to: #58506 |
Elite 3235 San Diego | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? If you are coming to San Diego. You won't have a problem finding a good bike shop. We have a million bike shops, and at least 4 high end tri specific shops that carry every brand of bike you can imagine |
2004-09-07 10:36 AM in reply to: #58506 |
Regular 65 San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Where in the US are you going to? Is SD, San Diego or South Dakota. If it is San Diego you would find a bike here. |
2004-09-07 10:47 AM in reply to: #58421 |
Expert 774 England | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Yes - its San Diego. I arrive on the Sat evening but fly out on the Thursday and have a bit of a tight schedule. I'm sure it could be done and can only imagine the look on my boss' face when I turn up at the airport with a bike box! I wil visit a top tri specific bike shop tomorrow and they provide a custom measure/fit system so at the worst case I could get my measurements and make sure I get the right bike when I choose one. They also stock Cervelo and have the Dual so really fancy a look at that. They are in London so not best sited for a test ride though..... |
2004-09-07 10:51 AM in reply to: #58534 |
Regular 65 San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Check out www.nytro.com they are only a short drive away |
2004-09-07 11:05 AM in reply to: #58536 |
Elite 3235 San Diego | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? You can also check out www.hitechbikes.com www.supergo.com B&L bikes is another good shop |
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2004-09-07 2:04 PM in reply to: #58541 |
Expert 774 England | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Thanks all - will check out those sites and see what the final price after taxes, shipping etc are. Wow - this is fun, no idea how to convince my wife I need a new bike? |
2004-09-07 2:11 PM in reply to: #58647 |
Resident Matriarch N 43° 32.927 W 071° 24.431 | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Wow - this is fun, no idea how to convince my wife I need a new bike? I've always heard that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission |
2004-09-07 2:16 PM in reply to: #58421 |
Expert 774 England | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? You've not my wife then.....A doctor with a large case of nasty drugs and tools at her disposal, and she starts Body Combat classes on Friday...... Maybe I can phone her from America and tell her what I found, or perhaps get a friend to mail in a letter saying I won the Triathlete magazine bike competition or something. Better still, I can tell her Santa came early...... |
2004-09-09 3:00 AM in reply to: #58654 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? Bigpikle - 2004-09-07 2:16 PM Better still, I can tell her Santa came early...... THen you'd better bring her a present too! |
2004-09-09 8:48 AM in reply to: #58421 |
Expert 774 England | Subject: RE: Where to start with a bike upgrade? So I went to another specialist bike shop today and got carefully measured. The outcome was that I don't want a tri specific bike as they are just too severe set up and I need something a little more relaxed, but will look at a road setup that I can add tri-bars to. (But wow, those Cervelo's are seriously sexy bikes!!!!!) They didn't share my personal reports with me (as I didn't pay them $50 for the sizing) so I cant take their efforts and just shop around on the web, but I'm leaning towards a custom built bike using a handbuilt Italian frame (branded Sigma and as rode by Andrew Johns in Athens recently) built up to my sizes and spec on everything else. It will work out a touch more expensive than an off-the-peg Trek but I would need to swop out a couple of bits on one of those anyway to get it fitted correctly, so the overall wouldn't be much different. The real winner is that they also had a 2003 Look carbon frame hanging up on special offer (50% of original list) that is my size and could be built up the same as the Alu frame for only a few $ more! Now I'm really tempted and to cap it all it was in a 'nude' carbon finish that looked SOOOOO cool. I really think this is the way to go but they dont have proper demo bikes for me to spend any time on. They offered me the chance to ride a couple of the staff bikes, one alu and one carbon and both similar to thhe frames I looked at, but this are just short 'round the block' rides and wont be to my size so might illustrate the difference between frame materials but I dont feeel they will offer much else. Any thoughts appreciated....... |
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