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2007-07-05 8:23 PM

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Subject: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??
So I have had orthotics for a while..was wearing the Brooks Beast and Saucony Stabil with them and doing just fine. Also, I just got some Newton Motions (the ones with the extra support) that now have 100+ miles on them all with the orthotics in there.

Anyway, I was just wondering if by wearing support shoes and orthotics you can over correct my pronation problem and cause damage?? Should I use neutral shoes?

Any extra information on this subject is appreciated. Thanks.


2007-07-05 8:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??

I'm assuming that you're talking about custom orthotics that have been made to fit your feet.  I'm pretty sure that you're going to want to wear them with a neutral shoe.  They should provide the support you need.  And yes, you can hurt yourself by providing too much support/control.

2007-07-05 8:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??
you assumed correctly...i walked on some mat that read where the most and least pressure was placed and all that business through my step.

Thanks for the help so far.
2007-07-05 8:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??
If you use an orthotic, use a neutral shoe. So says the guy that invented the inserts I use (Aline).
2007-07-05 10:15 PM
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I use custom orthotics and use a neutral shoe. It has worked for me.
2007-07-06 9:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??

I have had custom orthotics for almost 10 years and had always worn the same shoe, a Saucony stability shoe, the Shadow 6000.  I thought it was time to try some newer technology and had the same question as you.  I was told by the shoe fit expert at Road Runner Sports to stay with a stability shoe.  They recommended Brooks Adrenaline GTS and Saucony Grid Trigon Guide and I have been wearing both with no problems.    



2007-07-06 11:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??
I use a Asics Foundation, per my doc, and The Runner's Forum, our local run shop. Even with orthotics, I tend to need a stability shoe.
2007-07-06 2:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??

The way it was explained to me is that custom orthotics correct to get you as close to neutral as possible. If you add a stabilizing shoe that is also correcting, that creates problems.

Bottom line of course, if you are already running in a motion correction shoe with orthotics and you aren't having any problems I'd stick with it. But if you're switiching to an orthotic for the first time, I'd go with a neautral shoe.

I had a bogus gait analysis in April of 2006 and not long after I developed achilles tendonitis and some bursitis in my hip that is still giving me problems. I've spent $1000's on treatment. The right shoes are critical if you have biomechanical issues.

I switched to an appropriate motion correction shoe and I'm getting better. I got the orthotics because I had 3 pairs of expensive neutral shoes and I didn't want to use them to kick around town. So now I alternate between neutral shoes with orthotics and the MC shoes.

2007-07-06 2:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Orthotics w/ support shoe or neutral shoe??

tjtryon - 2007-07-06 11:52 AM I use a Asics Foundation, per my doc, and The Runner's Forum, our local run shop. Even with orthotics, I tend to need a stability shoe.

Have you ever had a Footmaxx study or similar test? I LIT that thing up as a severe pronator, but the Brooks Adrenaline (or the Glycerine with orthotics) seem to be helping me.

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