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2004-11-07 1:14 AM

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Has anyone ever had an arch injury called plantar fasciitis? I had never heard of it till i bought my new running shoes. The lady who helped me said this type of injury was very common. For me the injury is on my left foot, with the pain at the heel where the tendons for my toes attach. It is worse in the am right as I wake up and start to walk on it. Apparently this is the first sign of the injury. It hurts pretty bad at first but after I get moving/running/cycling it's fine. I'll feel the pain off an on throughout the day but never as intensely as first thing in the morning. I've been making sure i keep it stretched as I understand this helps but I was curious if anyone here had had this one before and had any recomendations.
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2004-11-07 1:43 AM
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I had similar a.m. pain a couple years ago. I never had it diagnosed, but attributed it to old shoes (the ones I mainly wear to work, not exercise). I bought some heel cups for added support. I've since bought new shoes, but still use the heel cups, and I haven't had any pain in over a year.
2004-11-07 7:16 AM
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You're probably not going to want to hear this, but you bought the wrong running shoes.  I've been down this same road, other foot though.  You will need a shoe with more arch support, or possibly an orthotic support in your current shoe.  Also, make sure that the heel cup is quite snug when you buy a shoe.  Repeated pounding of the heel strike when you're running tends to flatten out the pad in the heel of your foot and it wants to displace itself sideways, stretching the tendons and causing the pain you're feeling.

The cure is to make sure you stretch it in the morning and before running.  I'd also look into a different running shoe and an arch support as well, one with a hard plastic or carbon fiber insert.  You might also want to put one in the shoes you use during the day.  Another good exercise to help cure the problem is to roll the arch of your foot back and forth a golf ball.  Do it while you're sitting watching TV or on the computer.  Rest your foot as much as possible, take some time off from running if you have to.  Run on soft surfaces like trails instead of pavement.  All this information comes from my orthopedic surgeon, who is a marathoner and a triathlete!

2004-11-11 5:23 PM
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I have heard of people having this... they have to get these special inserts for the foot and do the streching, which you already are doing.

Have you tried going to either a podiatrist [specializes only in feet] or an orthopedic doc [knee to foot doc who also specializes in surgery of those areas]?

lots of luck with this!

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2004-11-15 3:17 PM
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I am in the middle of this problem....but I can't add more that max did. That is the info I got from my foot DR. Some times I'll get up at night to pee and think I can't possibly walk. Later in the day I hardly notice it at all. It is soooo strange. The key is stretching and support. My Dr. said get new shoes "at least" every 300 miles. I used to go much further. Good Luck
2004-11-15 3:40 PM
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I really appreciate everyone's input. It seems to be getting better slowly. I took a couple weeks off of it and it doesn't hurt so bad in the mornings. I have some shoes that definitely need some type of arch support so I'm looking around for that. Luckily my running shoes have great support, it's my everyday work shoes that are really the problem. Hopefully whatever I find over the counter will help with that though.
max - big thanks for the advice. I think the golf ball has been one of the best remedies in addition to the stretching.

also, i've been working on my running technique, starting today, so that I don't land so heavy on my heel, but more on the middle of my foot.

Skeedawg

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2004-11-16 11:36 AM
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skeedawg - 2004-11-15 3:40 PM also, i've been working on my running technique, starting today, so that I don't land so heavy on my heel, but more on the middle of my foot. Skeedawg

Actually that's the basis behind the "Pose Running Method" where he tries to convert you to that very technique.  There's more to it than I can list here, but it boils down to running with a mid-foot strike instead of landing on the heel.  You almost feel like you are constantly falling forward and your feet are landing underneath your body instead of out in front.  Do a web search on the Pose Method, I'm sure you'll see a ton of information.  There is a book available too, and DVD/VHS instruction, and there was an article about it in a recent issue of Runner's World Magazine.

OK, I've taken my own advice...here's some links!

http://www.posetech.com/

http://members.toast.net/joe.sparks/pose/home.html

http://www.trymysport.co.uk/pose_running.htm

http://www.triathlete.com/art.asp?3=236

2004-11-17 12:55 AM
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HI

I had surgery for this once - it was a great success for me at that time after batttling it for 5 years. I walked out of the hospital nearly pain free for the first time in years!!!

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp...

that is a link to that last time I posted on this subject

again, I cannot say enough, before you persue surgery, resarch your doc and the proceedure thoroughly.
2004-11-26 11:12 AM
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I've been dealing with plantar fasciitis for a while too. It began several years ago and, since I knew nothing about it except that it stopped hurting when I didn't run, I stopped running because of it. I started running again last spring without pain but mid-summer I overdid it and the injury flared up again. This time I sought advice, identified the problem, and have since done some research into plantar fasciitis. An internet search for "plantar fasciitis" turned up lots of info and I recommend you try that. There are a lot of treatments that may help, many that you can do yourself, but no quick fixes. Good luck.
2004-11-29 8:30 PM
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Very common. the fasicia on the bottom of your foot attatches to your calcaneous (heel bone) The reason it hurts more in the am is that we tend to sleep with our toes pointed which allows the plantar fasicia to be in a shortened postion. When you go to stand up and dorsiflex your foot, you stretch the fasica and OUCH. Stretch stretch stretch and then stretch some more. Stretch your foot before you get out of bed. Keep a glass coke bottle or a golf ball by the side of the bed and roll your foot overit first thing in the am. A heel cup which you can buy at any Walmart or Kmart for under $10 will help. If new shows or worn out shoe caused the problem get rid of them. Ice massage may help too. Fill a styrofoam cup with water and freeze it. Peel the edge of the cup away and rub the ice on your foot. keep a towel handy because the ice melts like crazy. Most people can handle about 5 minutes of this. NSAIDs are helpful too. Good luck -SMO
2004-12-15 9:35 AM
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I had it several years ago.  Excruciating pain in the heel when first walking in the morning, but oddly enough little or no pain when running.   I laid off running for a week or two, added a heel cup, then started back with reduced mileage.  I also changed the heels on my regular street shoes.  They were worn down and I  think that contributed to the problem.  I make sure to retire old running shoes before they lose their cushioning.  All of this helped me and I have not had the problem again.  In fact, I no longer need the heel cup.  Don't know if it helped or not, but I've used Asics Gel  running shoes and am very happy with them.

Hope yours is a minor ailment and goes away soon.

 



2004-12-16 11:17 AM
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I got this after running a marathon once. The coke bottle helps, but what really helps is MOTRIN or some other ibuprofen. This will reduce swelling and help it contract. Also if you can find some sort of brace to keep your foot from falling when you sleep at night. Mine went away in about a week or two (once I sucked it up and went to the doctor).
2004-12-21 1:12 PM
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2005-01-01 11:07 PM
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Try taking a plastic soda bottle and filling it with water and freezing it then rolling your foot across the bottle. Feels great, and not messy. I've had PF for about 2 years now and have made sure I buy new shoes, not just running shoes, but all new shoes, every so often and I am now not experiencing any pain!!! I use heel cups as well.. Streching is key too, try putting your toes on the end of a step and going down GRADUALLY!!! with your heel...good stretch...GOOD LUCK..
2005-01-02 12:13 AM
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This will sound silly, but one of the players on the Minnesota Timberwolves missed most of last season due to this injury, so I read a lot about it. Stretching, stretching, and more stretching seemed to be the solution. The toes and ball of foot on the edge of a step was recommended a lot. Another stretching aid was a sock that you wear at night, while sleeping. It has the toes of the sock attached to the shin area of the sock, like tying a string or something around your toe and shin. While you sleep, this keeps your toes pointed up, instead of down, and keeps the tendons stretched out all night. Seems like this would be a huge help for the morning pain.
2005-01-03 5:20 PM
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Thanks for all the helpful information everyone -- i thought it would be nice to give a status update.

I have woken up for several weeks in a row with no pain in the AM! Woohooo! I used a combo of rest, stretching (hams, calves and arch), the bottle, and ibuprofen. It was a little sore this morning but I wore a bad pair of shoes yesterday and I think that aggravated it. I have noticed, as many have said, that if you do any sort of walking or whatever with no shoes or poorly supported shoes it gets stiff overnight and will be sore the next day.

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2005-01-11 3:53 PM
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I had the same problem and same diagnosis from my doctor. She gave me a prescription to go and see an orthopedic specialist and what I had was that my arch was colapsing and stretchinh that tendon. The specialist made me orthotic insoles for my shoes with a stiffer arch support. I had this done is August and have had no problems recently.
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