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2007-11-07 6:26 PM

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Subject: Aero Bars on road bike?
Hello, I'm noobie triathlete and I need some advise on my bike! My question is: Should I put aero-bars on my road bike? Before you answer, here is some background.

First off this summer was my first time training for tris and I am addicted, I love it, but obviously I still have a lot to learn. I am not a very fit cyclist, I rode around a little bit in college just because I enjoy being on a bike but never raced or trained or anything close to that until this past summer. I did do a fair amount of mountain biking in High School though. I feel like I can handle a bike reasonably well.

A little over a year ago I bought a Giant OCR2 road bike. It's nothing too fancy but it fits me well and it does the trick. As much as I want one there is no way I can afford a new tri-bike, that has to wait until I pay my car off in 3-4 years!

Originally I thought it was a no-brainer that putting aero-bars on my bike would help, but after talking to a bike fitter he put some doubts in my mind and here is why (from what this guy told me):

1. Aero-bars on a road bike do not give you an ideal fit, aka, often not very comfortable, which means you are less likely to use them (if you aren't using them they aren't doing any good).

2. Aero-bars on a road bike tend to put your weight right on top of the front wheel which can make them very dificult to handle, which again leads to using them less.

When I consider that my main event I am training for next year is Wildflower long course, which from what I understand is very hilly, I now wonder if aero-bars will do me much good. Do aero-bars help much, if at all when going up-hill? Seems like you would have to come out of them for anything very steep at all. If I am going to lose a lot of handling, would I even feel comfortable staying in them on the downhills?

Seems like a lot of factors to me, so I'm not quite sure what to do. I have a very limited budget, so I don't want to spend the money if it's not something that will help.

Any advise would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Andrew


2007-11-07 7:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Bars on road bike?

Been there, done that. Had a klein and added aerobars. Rode it about 5 times and wasn't comfortable for more than about an hour. Ended up buying a tri-bike, took the bars off the road bike, gave 'em away. And you're right...I wasn't in a good position, didn't have the fit, and didn't enjoy the whole experience.  

In your shoes, I wouldn't put full aerobars on a road bike.  On a very hilly course, especially if you're just getting your bike groove, the difference between aerobars and drops is not as pronounced as a flat, draft legal race (IMFL). Just kidding, IMFL peeps.  You prolly wouldn't notice it.  

One thing to consider might be the shorty aerobars. Used in ITU races, the pros add them to their road bike setup to get more aero. You get the penalty of your drops out in the wind, but you get the much bigger benefit of your body being narrow...and the additional handling that comes with being on a road bike. 

2007-11-07 7:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Bars on road bike?
rkreuser - 2007-11-07 5:06 PM

One thing to consider might be the shorty aerobars. Used in ITU races, the pros add them to their road bike setup to get more aero. You get the penalty of your drops out in the wind, but you get the much bigger benefit of your body being narrow...and the additional handling that comes with being on a road bike. 

Shorty aeros?  Wha...?  Pics? links?  PGCG won't let me cough up the cash for a tri bike so I was going to add aeros to my road bike.  I'd like to hear more...

2007-11-07 8:09 PM
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elektra - 2007-11-07 8:10 PM

Shorty aeros?  Wha...?  Pics? links?  PGCG won't let me cough up the cash for a tri bike so I was going to add aeros to my road bike.  I'd like to hear more...



Something like these: http://www.profile-design.com/products/aerobars/jammer-gt/
2007-11-07 8:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Bars on road bike?
I have carbon jammer GT on my roadie and they work great.
2007-11-07 8:22 PM
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I have profile design aero bars on my roadie, and they are great to have regardless of whether or not you do triathlons.


2007-11-07 8:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Bars on road bike?

Yeh, that's them. The big benefit is that they narrow you. You're the biggest aerodrag on the bike (no offense, e, I am too), and part of that drag is the wind that your front catches. So instead of having your arms 2 ft apart like you're welcoming the wind, have 'em 8 inches apart, like you're staying out of the wind.

In other words, anything you can do to narrow your profile is great. They're proven, they work. ITU races them exclusively.

2007-11-07 9:49 PM
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I love my PD Jammers.
2007-11-07 9:56 PM
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I have aero bars on my hybrid.  Most said the same thing about the fit, weight, etc.  I found a set on clearance for $20 and decided to try them.  My primary reason for wanting them was actually more for comfort than speed or aero.  My hands go numb fairly quikly due to some long time nerve issues. 

The aero bars have eliminated the numbness as I have more alternatives for position.  Also, whenever I go into aero, I gain .5 -.75 mph almost instantly. 

I am finding that I spend more and more time in aero.

2007-11-07 10:08 PM
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I got numb alot with my hybrid. its the hand position of the flat bar that got me the most. I got aero bars for when I was on it via the trainer I could go more areo or basicly take pressure off my hands. I took them off my road bike for my hims because I found on my first him I would ride the pads more than anything.

I am thinking about those shorties though. Maybe even for the Ironman.
2007-11-07 10:22 PM
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The short aerobars on my road bike is the direction I'm heading as well. I was waffling a bit, but now that I'm rehabbing a bad wrist, it's pretty clear that being able to ride aero with my forearms taking some weight is going to be a helpful alternative to riding on the brake hoods...don't know when (or if) I'm going to be able to support any weight on the hoods in the near future.


2007-11-08 10:55 AM
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The shorties sound like they might be a good option for me. Thanks for all the advise, I'm going to start looking around and see if I can find something on sale or second hand.
2007-11-08 11:39 AM
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I have the cheap Profile Century bars on my roadie and love them.   I don't have many hills to work with, so can't speak to that.  But I ride in them most of the time.
2007-11-08 12:08 PM
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Hey, I have a Giant OCR2 as well and appreciate everyone's advice on aeorbars.  I have been kicking around the idea of adding them but have found out that there's alot more to aero position than just sticking the aerobars onto my bike.  I will probably get the shorties!!
2007-11-08 12:17 PM
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I have clip-on aerobars on my road bike handlebars and they're great. I use the Profile Design Carbon Stryke and changed the pads to the flip-up kind so I still have access to my top bar. Otherwise, I couldn't put my hands on my top bar because of the aerobar pads being in the way.

I think the fit really depends. I think I get more power when I'm in the aerobars. Being clip-ons though, in order to shift or brake, you have to move over to the handlebars. I've never ridden a tri bike so I can't compare the handling, but I've never had a problem.

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2007-11-08 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Bars on road bike?
When I upgraded from a mountain bike to a road bike, I went about half a season before adding aerobars. With the bars, PD airstrykes, I also got refitted. That did make my bike less comfortable to ride in the drops or on the hoods, though not a problem for short distances. It was also slightly less stable when I was in the bars but I was determined to just get used to that and it hasn't really been an issue. I ride in the aerobars almost all the time but use the regular grips when riding close to others, negotiating through obstacles, sitting up to eat/drink, or for steep climbing, etc. It's often quite windy where I live so the more aero position helps a lot. I don't have a tri bike, and can't see that happening soon, so this seems to be a workable solution for me, for now.


2007-11-08 12:54 PM
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I use the Profile Design T2+ aerobars on my Scott road bike and I wouldn't be w/out them. There was definitely a little "tweaking" that needed to be done to my fit, but once I got it dialed in they are extremely comfortable.

One of the biggest changes you would want to make if you put aerobars on your road bike is the seat. Not only the geometry, but buy yourself a tri-specific saddle, you won't be sorry.

2007-11-08 3:03 PM
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I added clip on aeros to my road bike about 3 weeks before my first HIM and it was the best move I could have made. I did have my bike refit when I got them and it made a world of difference. I probably road 90% of the race in aero. I love mine.
2007-11-08 11:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Aero Bars on road bike?
I did my first Ironman on a road bike with aero bars. It was fine because it was a flat course. I am now training for IMAZ and have purchased a tri bike. The big difference for me is on a hilly course I would have to get out of areo on my road bike to shift gears for the hill. That is not an issues on my tri bike. As far as fit you should be able to go to your LBS and get them to make adjustment to your bike to better fit you while riding in aero, but still not as good as the tri bike.
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