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2007-12-12 6:33 PM
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so today did one wide grip pull up, then could not get my chin over the bar on the second - so held for 10....then the trainer let me use the big rubberband.  Did 3 sets with rubberband assist - 15,12,10 with long hold at the end of each.....

love the rubberband..... 



2007-12-12 7:56 PM
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Wow Chris! You picked up Crossfit! It's a wonderful program.

All - go to crossfit.com and watch the videos about the kipping pull-up. There's some kipping tips this month.

chrisrunzs26 - 2007-12-10 3:11 PM

I have been doing cross-fit this year after my last Tri.  My main goal is to be able to do a real pull up.  Now I can only do 10 or so with the assist of the machine at the gym.  None without the machine help. So I'll be so excited if when I can do one with out the help.

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2007-12-12 8:53 PM
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I asked my coach what the typical progression for women to do pull ups is. He said most women can do 3-5 with full body weight after 12-18 months expect some genetic freaks that can do more than men easily. I'm sure I'm not in that category. So my goal is by my 47th birthday I can do 3.

Since I'm 6 months post seperated shoulder, his suggestion is I try gripe with palms facing each other to be kinder to my shoulders. Tomorrow I start my journey to 3 pull ups 

2007-12-12 9:40 PM
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KathyG - 2007-12-12 6:53 PM

I asked my coach what the typical progression for women to do pull ups is. He said most women can do 3-5 with full body weight after 12-18 months expect some genetic freaks that can do more than men easily.

I'm not sure I understand. Do most women do 3-5 after 12-18 months? Or do some genetic freaks develop after that long?  

 

2007-12-12 9:57 PM
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2007-12-12 11:26 PM
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KathyG - 2007-12-12 8:53 PM

I try gripe with palms facing each other to be kinder to my shoulders. Tomorrow I start my journey to 3 pull ups



I tried griping about not be able to do any and it didn't help. Just got me a slap to the back of the head from my wife.


2007-12-13 10:21 AM
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kimj81 - 2007-12-12 10:40 PM
KathyG - 2007-12-12 6:53 PM

I asked my coach what the typical progression for women to do pull ups is. He said most women can do 3-5 with full body weight after 12-18 months expect some genetic freaks that can do more than men easily.

I'm not sure I understand. Do most women do 3-5 after 12-18 months? Or do some genetic freaks develop after that long?

 

Some genetic freaks (in a good way) can do them easily faster.

His point is that is hard to work up to do pull ups for women and even men.  His experience is that normal women take 12 to 18 months of working towards doing pull ups via different methods like assisted machine or modified on smith machine to do 3 to 5.  So I'm setting the goal of being able to do 3 a year from now.

It took me from fall until May the following year to be able to do regular full pull ups. First knee ones, then bench, then smith machine lower and lower to floor. I worked at it for a good 30+ weeks until I built strength to do them. 

2007-12-13 10:55 AM
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KathyG - 2007-12-13 8:21 AM

Some genetic freaks (in a good way) can do them easily faster.

His point is that is hard to work up to do pull ups for women and even men. His experience is that normal women take 12 to 18 months of working towards doing pull ups via different methods like assisted machine or modified on smith machine to do 3 to 5. So I'm setting the goal of being able to do 3 a year from now.

It took me from fall until May the following year to be able to do regular full pull ups. First knee ones, then bench, then smith machine lower and lower to floor. I worked at it for a good 30+ weeks until I built strength to do them.

Wow! I've never been called a genetic freak before! (Well, in a good way, my allergists tell me I'm a freak all the time.) After a long hiatus from trying (I was close before, so I probably had some residual strength/neuromuscular pathways), I got one in about 3 months. I will admit, though, that if I have any athletic talents at all, it's strength.

2007-12-13 11:13 AM
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Kathy,

I spent a good bit of time last year to work up to doing unassisted pull-ups, and I highly recommend it! I have a PowerTower thing at home (essentially a free standing pull-up bar), and I got 2 different "strengths" of pull up bands to help me work up to it. I started with my feet in the heaviest band (most help). When I could do sets of 12 - really - no cheating, chin above bar, etc., I'd somehow lower the resistance. I'd only use one foot. Then I'd use my knees. Then just one knee. Then drop down to the lighter band and use both feet, then one foot.... Eventually I could do a few completely on my own (and yes, I was PSYCHED!). I find that using the bands or an assist machine is really key - you REALLY feel the motion, and are training your muscles in exactly that way (just with less resistance).

I'd also recommend trying different hand configurations (doing chin ups and pull ups), and changing up the width of your hands - wide / close... But of course watch out for your shoulder. Chin ups (palms facing toward you) are easier than pull ups because you can use your biceps strength as well. Pull ups are all back.

I could do 3 chin ups when I first started, and eventually worked up to doing a set of 10. For pull-ups, I could move my body about .... 1/4 of an inch when I first started, and worked up to 5 unassisted. That took 3 months of work. Over the summer I wasn't as diligent about doing pull-ups, so now I'm back to using my bands a lot, but it's just SUCH a great, functional move.

Good luck!

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2007-12-13 11:35 AM
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mspina - 2007-12-13 12:13 PM Kathy, I spent a good bit of time last year to work up to doing unassisted pull-ups, and I highly recommend it! .....

. Chin ups (palms facing toward you) are easier than pull ups because you can use your biceps strength as well. Pull ups are all back. I could do 3 chin ups when I first started, and eventually worked up to doing a set of 10. For pull-ups, I could move my body about .... 1/4 of an inch when I first started, and worked up to 5 unassisted. That took 3 months of work. Over the summer I wasn't as diligent about doing pull-ups, so now I'm back to using my bands a lot, but it's just SUCH a great, functional move. Good luck! Michelle (fellow Will client)

Michelle that is so cool you can do them...Will must be proud!

Summer is about racing and many of us don't do strength training as regular training takes enough hours. To get to my goal by next November I'll need to be persistent but IM training takes lots of time.

I guess I didn't realize the difference in hand position made them called something different. I'll have to see how the Y equipment works for me and then go from there. Your PowerTower and bands seem like a great way to do it at home.

Thanks for the detailed info how you progressed. 

2007-12-13 11:45 AM
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KathyG - 2007-12-13 12:35 PM

Michelle that is so cool you can do them...Will must be proud!




I'll enjoy ribbing him about essentially calling me a genetic freak, as it didn't take a me year to get there.

It's really empowering when you can do them, even if only very few (I find it empowering doing them assisted as well) - they are just so .... studly.


2007-12-13 2:41 PM
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I'm happy to report I did 3 pullups in a row yesterday..no little hops in between   I started a few weeks ago, mostly a "reverse" pullup-jump up to the bar, slowly lower down.  3 x 5.  They work.  I feel like such a stud. 

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2007-12-13 3:00 PM
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where can you get these rubber bands?  i googled rubber band pullup assist but didn't really see anything.

my husband has a pullup bar somewhere in his parents basement - to anyone who knows, what do you think would be better/more effective/less expensive - a bunch of rubber bands plus his pullup bar, or getting a monkey bar jungle gym?

thanks! 

2007-12-13 3:47 PM
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I can't answer your second question because I've only used the bar and myself, but you can get the bands here http://www.ironwoodyfitness.com/fitness-bands.php  

 

 

 

2007-12-13 4:35 PM
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lisazapato - 2007-12-13 3:00 PM

where can you get these rubber bands? i googled rubber band pullup assist but didn't really see anything.

my husband has a pullup bar somewhere in his parents basement - to anyone who knows, what do you think would be better/more effective/less expensive - a bunch of rubber bands plus his pullup bar, or getting a monkey bar jungle gym?

thanks!

I will ask my trainer.

He only lets me put one knee in

tried to put 2 in on set 3 yesterday - he looked at me and said: 'very funny' 

2007-12-13 4:48 PM
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lisazapato - 2007-12-13 2:00 PM

where can you get these rubber bands? i googled rubber band pullup assist but didn't really see anything.

my husband has a pullup bar somewhere in his parents basement - to anyone who knows, what do you think would be better/more effective/less expensive - a bunch of rubber bands plus his pullup bar, or getting a monkey bar jungle gym?

thanks!



I got mine at a rock climbing store, they sell spools of "bungee" cord (not really for bungee jumping though!) I have a long loop, about 4 feet when tied in a loop that I cinch over the bar & can put 1 or 2 feet in, or I can double it over or tie it off shorter, etc.


2007-12-13 5:08 PM
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Kim's link doesn't work for some reason even though the URL is correct. Just go here and then clikc on "Woody Bands." 

http://www.ironwoodyfitness.com/

2007-12-13 7:02 PM
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MikeTheBear - 2007-12-13 3:08 PM

Kim's link doesn't work for some reason even though the URL is correct. Just go here and then clikc on "Woody Bands." 

http://www.ironwoodyfitness.com/

Whoops! Thanks Mike! I've had a terrible time posting links lately for some reason...

2007-12-14 12:28 PM
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So I did assisted pull ups today and they are so tough felt like a weakling a bit.  I'm not sure 11 months is enough time to master this but I'll be trying.
2007-12-14 1:35 PM
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I got my bands at PerformBetter (Superbands): http://www.performbetter.com/detail.aspx_Q_ID_E_3889_A_rnd_E_17

I started with the 1 3/4" and then "graduated" to the 1".

There is a pic of a woman using these to do a pull up - she's got one knee in the loop.
2007-12-14 1:36 PM
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KathyG - 2007-12-14 1:28 PM

So I did assisted pull ups today and they are so tough felt like a weakling a bit. I'm not sure 11 months is enough time to master this but I'll be trying.


It'll come Kathy!


2007-12-17 8:33 PM
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Monday is V-bar pull up day. Dang they are hard.

Up to 3,2,2 with 1 minute rest between sets. That must be where my arms are getting their workout.....

 

 

2007-12-18 6:32 PM
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I find strength training so amazing how my body adapts quickly and gets stronger.

Last week I could only do 3 pull ups at the harder assistance machine amount and today did 6...just from doing them once. Need to keep pushing the weight down so it is harder. I figured I have about 100 sessions to my goal date which means I need to drop 5 pounds of weight every 5 sessions. How math geeky is that for me to figure that out?

Most women at my Y don't do add weights as they are afraid of adding to much muscle..not really going to happen. I'm good with adding lean body mass much better than fat. 

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2008-01-08 10:55 AM
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We brought back my husband's door frame pullup bar from his parent's basement after the holiday, and I'm working on it now!  Mostly he just holds my legs and I try to do pullups that way, but I'm still experimenting.  I can't wait to be ripped!   
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