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2008-12-22 9:08 AM

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Subject: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions

I just noticed that EVERY piece of performance clothing (tri shorts, jackets, golf shirts, cotton/poly blend workout shirts, etc) says no fabric softener.  I am a stinky man , and really like to start off each day smelling good, even if I don't end up that way!

Three questions, oh genius(es) of BT:

1. Does this restriction refer to both liquid and dryer sheet fabric softeners?

2. What detrimental effect will fabric softeners have on my gear?

3. Does anyone ignore the warnings and found there to be NO PROBLEMS?

Thank you in advance for your insight!



2008-12-22 9:18 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions
Not sure what exactly the fabric softener does, but I don't dry any of my stuff in the dryer. I hang dry everything from sports bras to tri/bike shorts. When occasionally something has accidently been dried, it has this funky smell and the fabric gets pilly.

If you hang dry and your clothes don't smell fresh or worse, smell funky, try washing with a cap full (tablespoon) of white vinegar. I think you add it to where you would put bleach.

Good luck!
2008-12-22 9:41 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions
Fabric softener is supposed to interfere with the wicking ability (wickability?) of the clothing.  I'd stay away from both types of softener...we just air dry.  They do make specific laundry detergent that's supposed to help wash the funk outta technical gear...but I haven't tried it.  I figure that within a couple minutes of working out, I'm gonna be funky again anyway! 
2008-12-22 9:42 AM
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pga_mike - 2008-12-22 10:08 AM

2. What detrimental effect will fabric softeners have on my gear?

 

Fabric softeners (and a lot of liquid detergents) can leave a residue that  interferes with the wicking/shedding/breathability etc of technical fabrics. It's why a lot of  fabrics like Gore-Tex recommend either a tech-specific wash (like the Nikwax stuff) or at the very least, powder detergent. 

I've used dryer sheets with the few pieces of 'tech' clothing I do dry in the dryer (mostly cycling jerseys), and I've never noticed any effect on their performance.

2008-12-28 5:51 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions
Curious about #'s 1 & 3 myself.
2008-12-28 6:15 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions

The clothing will spontaneously combust.

The downside to this is that replacement is expensive, but it makes for a fantastic finishing photo.

 

 



2008-12-28 9:32 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions

 Good one Sty!

 There was another thread on this and somebody recommended All concentrated unscented detergent and 1/4 cup of vinegar. It really works well for me. I had tried WIN, but the scent it leaves behind is too strong for my taste.

2008-12-28 9:49 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions

Residues from detergents themselves can "clog" the wicking material, but the softeners are worse, particularly the dryer sheets. Using a low residue detergent and air-drying works best for all tech fabrics. I never noticed the difference until we switched detergents.

 I use Sport Wash from Walmart - it's about a litre, will wash over 20 loads and costs around $5 - no scent, no residue, and works great for refreshing the wicking properties of tech clothing that just don't wick as well as when they were new. I don't use it every wash, maybe a couple times a month I'll wash all my tech fabric gear and I notice a big difference in the fabric's performance.

Best of all, I haven't spontaneously combusted yet. 

2008-12-28 10:30 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions

Trisports also has a couple of options:

http://www.trisports.com/apparelcare.html

When it's hot out I might even take my stuff in the shower with me as kind of a Pre-rinse.  I figure that they're already soaked with sweat so why not.  I think the important thing is getting the sweat out ASAP so the "funk" doesn't set in.  Also, I make sure find a gym bag with a mesh pocket to help dry my gear.  This seems to cut down on the amount of detergent I need.



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2008-12-28 11:29 AM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions
I never use fabric softener for anything.  I just don't see the point of using it to begin with.
2008-12-30 5:34 PM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions
here is a little test to show you what fabric softeners do to you moisture wiking clothes. Do you use dryer sheets ? If so take the lint screen out of your dryer and slowly run some water through it in the sink. Notice how the water does not flow straight through, but seems to get clogged in the screen? Now clean the screen with white vinegar ( I tried malted vinegar, it might be good on you fish it but it sucks for cleaning your line filter). Now try running water through the screen again.  water flows much better through he screen huh.


2008-12-30 7:32 PM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions
I like clean smelling AND wicking clothes to train in -- so does my DH so...I've been using a woolite cold water liquid detergent and of course hang drying or removing promptly from a low dryer depending on what the label says. They seem to smell fresh. Also might try some baking soda mixed into the wash. Now, probably don't want to add the vinegar and the baking soda --- volcano clothing!
2008-12-30 7:36 PM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions
x2 on the clogging of the fabric thing. I just use a clean and clear detergent (no perfumes or dyes) and try to remind my wife not to use the fabric sheets. I have heard that even if you have been using sheets for a while that it only takes one or two washings to get it all out.
2008-12-31 3:50 PM
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Subject: RE: BT Geniuses ~ Fabric softener and performance clothing questions

I am not a genius of any sort, but I have been running for 30 years, and have learned a trick or two...largely b/c I am cheap and don't want to be replacing stuff all t he time.

So...cheapskate mmrocker's tricks to long-lasting, clean-staying workout gear.

1. After every workout: shower in your clothes. At the very least, rinse. At best, let em get all shampooed. Wring them out, and air dry.

2. Machine wash them SPARINGLY. If you do #1 above, and alternate through a few outfits, you rarely have to send them to the Evil Place (aka washer).

3. When you DO machine wash, use NO fabric softner, and ether Oxyclean liquid or Nature's Miracle (yes, I know it's for cat pee) as an additive if you find yourself especially smelly. Run it on gentle cycle, or the "Active Wear" cycle in your newer machines.

4. Just like with wire hangers... NO MORE DRYERS. Lay flat to dry or use the pinchy hangers to suspend them.

I ran in a sport bra the other day that was from 1992. It's in just as good of shape as some of my newer stuff. Workout wear will last, and will avoid getting that "off" smell if you take care of it.

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