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 2011-01-12 12:20 PM in reply to: #3294930 |
Master  1572    Baltimore |  Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Threadsteveseer - 2011-01-12 1:11 PMI'd like to see sub 5. Sub 4:45 would be better. Guess I need to start biking. X2 on the time, same goals for me. My prediction for myself is either 4:50 or 6+, depending on if I'm actually at 4:50 fitness  |
| 2011-01-12 5:03 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
| Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread That makes 3 of us. On a perfect day after perfect training I am hoping to go sub 4:30; however, if I account for potential injuries, weather conditions, illness, or any other unforeseen circumstances, I think 4:45 is more realistic. My run is great, my swim is decent even 4 months out, but if I can just get my power on my bike up over the next 4 months I will be golden. My bike trainer and I are becoming very close How is everyone's training going? |
| 2011-01-12 5:33 PM in reply to: #3295727 |
| 2 | Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread eyeofthetiger2007 - 2011-01-12 6:03 PM That makes 3 of us. On a perfect day after perfect training I am hoping to go sub 4:30; however, if I account for potential injuries, weather conditions, illness, or any other unforeseen circumstances, I think 4:45 is more realistic. My run is great, my swim is decent even 4 months out, but if I can just get my power on my bike up over the next 4 months I will be golden. My bike trainer and I are becoming very close How is everyone's training going? I agree with you on getting close with the trainer!! I've been on it about 4-5 days a week for at least 1-2 hours a session. It's definitely my weakest. I'll be happy with a sub 5. |
 2011-01-12 5:39 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
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| 2011-01-12 5:42 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
| Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread Well put Fred. Do not be deceived by the flat course |
| 2011-01-12 5:46 PM in reply to: #3295795 |
| Master 1572 Baltimore | Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread Fred Doucette - 2011-01-12 6:39 PMThe weather has a huge impact on times at Eagleman. Much bigger than some people think. 4:45 last year was fast, the year before the same exact time would have been much lower in ranking. Swim times vary a ton, but the run times last year were incredibly slow. Just something to keep in mind when making time goals in this race. Haha, thats why I think I'll be 4:50 or 6+...I'm going for the sub 5 regardless of weather/fitness and we'll see what happens (ok not really, but I know I'll need a good day to do it). |
| 2011-01-12 5:48 PM in reply to: #3295795 |
| Master 1572 Baltimore | Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread Fred Doucette - 2011-01-12 6:39 PMThe weather has a huge impact on times at Eagleman. Much bigger than some people think. 4:45 last year was fast, the year before the same exact time would have been much lower in ranking. Swim times vary a ton, but the run times last year were incredibly slow. Just something to keep in mind when making time goals in this race. ie; don't under-estimate the challenge of this race. Great to have goals, but smart to be realistic with this course, as flat does not equal fast when the temps are real feel 108 degrees. I think a lot of people pick this race because they see it as an 'easier' way to get a sub 5 HIM. Some years it's true and some not so much. I did a long ride the day of last years race...there's no way I'm expecting this to be an easy race! |
| 2011-01-12 7:07 PM in reply to: #3295795 |
Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread Fred Doucette - 2011-01-12 6:39 PM The weather has a huge impact on times at Eagleman. Much bigger than some people think. 4:45 last year was fast, the year before the same exact time would have been much lower in ranking. Swim times vary a ton, but the run times last year were incredibly slow. Just something to keep in mind when making time goals in this race. ie; don't under-estimate the challenge of this race. Great to have goals, but smart to be realistic with this course, as flat does not equal fast when the temps are real feel 108 degrees. I think a lot of people pick this race because they see it as an 'easier' way to get a sub 5 HIM. Some years it's true and some not so much.
Agree 100%. I was 4:20s in 2007 and in 2008 with some limited run training in the 4:40s and it was about 108 degrees as Fred said. There is ZERO shade on the run course. It's one long a$$ death march when it's that hot. |
| 2011-01-13 4:00 AM in reply to: #3023546 |
| Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread It is good training for Las Vegas (instead of Clearwater now) and Kona to be sure. |
| 2011-01-13 6:33 AM in reply to: #3023546 |
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| 2011-01-13 8:26 AM in reply to: #3296357 |
| Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: EagleMan Ironman 70.3 Triathlon : Official Thread eyeofthetiger2007 - 2011-01-13 5:00 AM It is good training for Las Vegas (instead of Clearwater now) and Kona to be sure. Interesting you say that. I was talking to a few people after the 2008 heat at Eagleman and a few of them had been to Kona multiplie times. They said the heat in 2008 was similar but not as humid as Kona. I could not even imagine. It was opressive in 2008 in MD. |
| 2011-01-23 6:11 AM in reply to: #3296617 |
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| 2011-01-24 1:35 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
| 7 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread We (my wife and I), are in, did Syracuse 70.3 last year, Water temp was 62, Bike course was very hilly, wet and covered with fog but the run was nice and flat. I guess this one is going to be really different, flat, hot and humid, looking forward to it... Any suggestions on what to work on specifically for this bike course (Syracuse prep was involved with climbing hills throughout the summer, not sure how applicable it is for this race). |
| 2011-01-24 2:02 PM in reply to: #3318567 |
| Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread Yuval - 2011-01-24 2:35 PM Any suggestions on what to work on specifically for this bike course (Syracuse prep was involved with climbing hills throughout the summer, not sure how applicable it is for this race). Get your aerobic base built up and then a lot of riding at Threshold pace or just below race pace. Rinse and repeat. You want to go fast on this course and not pay on the run? You better get ready to train at or near race pace for a lot of your riding. Otherwise the run can be a real pain, literally. Training really depends on what your goals are. |
| 2011-01-25 12:32 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
| 7 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread Hi, thanks a lot for the advice. The problem I have (well, its not really a problem), is that we follow the Mark Allen training program which puts lots of emphsize on "engine build up" at relatively low pulse rates (125 - 140). Its not that we dont do speed work but it comes in way into the program (around week 12 or 13 out of 20). It is all based on making your body able to burn fat as its main source of energy (once you are done with the first 1,500 glikogen cal we all have avaialable in our bodies at race start). My bike time at Syracuse (where we climbed about 4,000 feet), was 3:15. I'll be perfectly happy with a 3 hours bike time on a flat course (and an overall time of less then 6 hours). |
| 2011-01-25 1:27 PM in reply to: #3320720 |
| Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread Yuval - 2011-01-25 1:32 PM Hi, thanks a lot for the advice. The problem I have (well, its not really a problem), is that we follow the Mark Allen training program which puts lots of emphsize on "engine build up" at relatively low pulse rates (125 - 140). Its not that we dont do speed work but it comes in way into the program (around week 12 or 13 out of 20). It is all based on making your body able to burn fat as its main source of energy (once you are done with the first 1,500 glikogen cal we all have avaialable in our bodies at race start). My bike time at Syracuse (where we climbed about 4,000 feet), was 3:15. I'll be perfectly happy with a 3 hours bike time on a flat course (and an overall time of less then 6 hours). I was on Mark's Elite team in 2008-2009 so I know all about how his program is set up. I'd utilize that weekly tempo run or ride and make sure you are staying at the high end of the HR numbers. Also same for the long run and long ride. Stay at the upper end of that HR zone he has established for you, for as long as possible. I know a lot of poeple who have had immense success with his approach and program. Good luck. |
| 2011-01-25 6:05 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
| New user 4 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread I'm in as well - first HIM! Did I read right that they changed the swim course? I'm guessing because of last year's issues? I'm shooting for sub 6 ... lots of training in the next 5 months is in order! |
| 2011-01-27 11:27 AM in reply to: #3320855 |
| 7 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread Thanks again for the advice, the truth is I had problems staying within the 145 BPM throughout the training sessions, climbing hills with more then 3%-4% (not to mention the 7% and 8%), or running uphill in a hot summer day gets me to the 155 - 170 very quickly. What I learned though was that the better I get, the less time it takes me to get back to the pre-determined zone (after the climb is over). Anyway, I'm a soldiar and like all soldiars, I'll do whatever it is that Commander Allen tells us to do... Good luck and stay safe. BTW, my wife tried to get into the elite group and is now on some sort of a stand by list... What made you give up your place? |
| 2011-01-27 2:33 PM in reply to: #3324698 |
| Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread BTW, my wife tried to get into the elite group and is now on some sort of a stand by list... What made you give up your place? I got hurt back in 2008 and it took a long time to heal up. Honestly, the training was nothing more than I was already doing on my own. So I decided that it was better for me to just charge on and be my own coach. I'd still recommend the program to anyone. For me it was just not a good idea to be hitting it that hard in Feb/March. Doubles every day with no rest days in reality would make me much faster if I was a pro triathlete and had the proper time to recovery. But life, family and other obligations put things into perspective for me... |
| 2011-02-16 6:42 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
| Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread Going to have all of my riding this week outside for a change. Getting my runs in outside as well. I'll take it for Feb. We could be under snow right now.... Hope everyone is on it! |
| 2011-02-17 2:26 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
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| 2011-02-17 6:58 PM in reply to: #3023546 |
| Member 65 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread anyone dealt with plantar fasciatis? im a few weeks into my training plan for eagleman and the last week or so my heels have felt bruised for the first few minutes im up and around. theyre not bothering me the rest of the day or when i run. my second year of triathlon, still pretty new at this. im open for any suggestions... |
| 2011-02-17 8:49 PM in reply to: #3360829 |
| Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread gvmhlal - 2011-02-17 7:58 PM anyone dealt with plantar fasciatis? im a few weeks into my training plan for eagleman and the last week or so my heels have felt bruised for the first few minutes im up and around. theyre not bothering me the rest of the day or when i run. my second year of triathlon, still pretty new at this. im open for any suggestions... Tis the season for PF.... I have been running my whole life and just came down with it this year. Left foot. Come to think of it all of my injuries all always left side. What's worked for me so far. Graston & ART Ice after run Strausburg Sock only for a few hours right after runs or at night when I am resting. I can't sleep with that thing. It kills me.
Other than that. Training does not hurt one bit. It's early am and then again in the afternoon. Dress shoes seem to make it angry as well. Mine is almost gone thank god. It's more annoying than anything. |
| 2011-02-18 4:39 AM in reply to: #3023546 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread I had minor PF during my last cross country season. I found that rolling it out on a tennis, lacrosse, or golf ball whenever you are sitting down is a good idea. Icing helped but stretching is more important. If you train in the morning the S. sock will keep it stretched out overnight so that you are able to get going when you wake up or at least with less warmup. Unfortunately you really have to give it time. Good luck! |
| 2011-02-18 6:58 AM in reply to: #3023546 |
| Expert 1296 | Subject: RE: Ironman 70.3 EagleMan Triathlon : Official Thread Oh yeah... I also used the Lacrosse ball as mentioned above.... However be careful if you decided to roll your foot out. I "overdid" it a bit with the ball and wound up off the PF even more. |
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