Anyone faster using Galloway than full run?
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2012-09-04 10:06 PM |
24 | Subject: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? Just wondering if anyone has actually achieved faster times using the Galloway walk/run method than running the whole way and if so over what distance? I get the reasoning behind doing it to prevent injury or at the end of am iron man, but just wondered if anyone actually finds it quicker.
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2012-09-04 10:10 PM in reply to: #4395547 |
Elite 4435 | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? Catcat - 2012-09-04 10:06 PM Just wondering if anyone has actually achieved faster times using the Galloway walk/run method than running the whole way and if so over what distance? I get the reasoning behind doing it to prevent injury or at the end of am iron man, but just wondered if anyone actually finds it quicker.
First marathon running as much as I could without scheduled walk breaks took 6 hours 6 minutes. Second marathon a year later using Galloway's 3:1 walk breaks all the way, took 5:06. |
2012-09-05 1:25 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
New user 13 | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? I literally started using this method last week and although I have yet to do another race using it, I ran 1 min/mile faster during my brick workout last weekend!! I was only scheduled to run 2 miles after my long bike but I felt so good during my run, I did a full 5K!! This is amazing for me because I am a horrible runner!!! Will definitely use the run/walk method for my next race on the 16th!!! |
2012-09-05 6:30 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Expert 977 | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? Not yet but just started a few weeks ago with. 4:1. Problem is that when I walk I now have to pick up the run pace a bit. Since I walk aid stations and walked for few seconds every 1/2 mi in my last IM I thought I would give it a try. This way it is a plan and not just "I'm tired". Be interested to hear others results. Duane |
2012-09-05 7:26 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Member 14 New Castle | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? I'm starting to see it helping me and I'm slow, in about 6 months I can say I drop 10 min off my frist 5K to now. Now I'm using 3:10/:50/3:10 run/walk/run, started with 1/1/1. |
2012-09-05 8:45 AM in reply to: #4395550 |
Master 2264 Sunbury, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? jobaxas - 2012-09-04 11:10 PM How much of that significant time drop would you say is due to improved fitness and experience between the first and second marathons, and how much was due to the galloway method? Catcat - 2012-09-04 10:06 PM Just wondering if anyone has actually achieved faster times using the Galloway walk/run method than running the whole way and if so over what distance? I get the reasoning behind doing it to prevent injury or at the end of am iron man, but just wondered if anyone actually finds it quicker.
First marathon running as much as I could without scheduled walk breaks took 6 hours 6 minutes. Second marathon a year later using Galloway's 3:1 walk breaks all the way, took 5:06. |
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2012-09-05 8:49 AM in reply to: #4395909 |
Veteran 1384 Panama City, FL | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? TheClaaaw - 2012-09-05 8:45 AM jobaxas - 2012-09-04 11:10 PM How much of that significant time drop would you say is due to improved fitness and experience between the first and second marathons, and how much was due to the galloway method? Catcat - 2012-09-04 10:06 PM Just wondering if anyone has actually achieved faster times using the Galloway walk/run method than running the whole way and if so over what distance? I get the reasoning behind doing it to prevent injury or at the end of am iron man, but just wondered if anyone actually finds it quicker.
First marathon running as much as I could without scheduled walk breaks took 6 hours 6 minutes. Second marathon a year later using Galloway's 3:1 walk breaks all the way, took 5:06.
Good point- may not be giving herself enough credit for working hard and improving run fitness over a year vs attributing to the plan. |
2012-09-05 9:40 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? In an 70.3 or anything over 10k, I find it faster. The longer and more grueling the race, the more effective run/walk/run becomes. |
2012-09-05 9:49 AM in reply to: #4396064 |
Veteran 268 Northern CT | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? 2x..I only use it in 1/2 or full marathons (including HIM). I take a 30-60 sec walk break at each mile starting at mile 2. If only for the fact that for me it mimics race day where I need to slow down at the aid stations to make sure I'm getting enough hydration. I find it also helps me focus...not to think about running 13 miles but focus on the mile I'm currently running and make necessary changes each mile. I do think I'm faster at these distances using the run/walk method. |
2012-09-05 9:49 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Master 1433 Calgary, AB | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? Depends - IM is a different beast - even pros walk some aid stations in an IM to get nutrition down but that's not the Gallowalking method either. If it gets you through the distance quicker to take walk breaks then go for it. But once the distance is no longer an issue, and it's just about speed then you usually move on from the walk breaks.
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2012-09-05 10:51 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
New user 205 Athens, GA | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? My two fastest half marathons (2:04 and 2:02) were done about 5 months apart, one run/walk and one intending to run straight through (but walked on some hills near the end), and the times were pretty much a wash. The second (run straight through) was officially faster but the course measured short and the average paces were almost the same per Garmin. For the run/walk, I did 4/1 from the very start and was able to go to a straight run for the last three miles and finished strong. For the straight run, I think I went out too fast and was not feeling great the whole time, and took short walk breaks up some hills during the last few miles. I felt *way* better after the run/walk. |
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2012-09-05 10:58 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Expert 977 | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? Yea, forgot to mention. Only use it or a HIM or IM. Do not use for stand alone HM or full marathons or anything shorter than a HIM. enjoy, Duane |
2012-09-05 10:58 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
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2012-09-05 11:08 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Champion 7036 Sarasota, FL | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? I started doing the Galloway method in training for my first half marathon in 2009. If definitely allowed me to cover more distance in training than I ever had before. In my personal experience, using the run/walk I'm faster on distances longer than 5K. It also helps me manage some chronic problems with patella tendonitis in my right knee and Achilles tendonosis in my left foot. Mark |
2012-09-05 11:17 AM in reply to: #4396270 |
Champion 10018 , Minnesota | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? I have been practicing it lately as a backup plan, so every other long run or so I do a 5 min run, :30 walk. I only need the :30 to feel "recovered" so I prefer to save that time. I am definitely as fast, if not faster, and it's a whole lot more entertaining. |
2012-09-05 11:19 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? I am. I have asthma and find that it helps my lungs recover to have these planned breaks. My legs can do the sustained running, but my lungs can't. |
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2012-09-05 11:36 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Extreme Veteran 1018 | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? If you want to run a 1:59 half mary (9:05m\m) and you use the 4min run:1min walk, what pace are you running during those 4 minutes? What pace are you walking? I see where his 9:00m\m says 4:1 ratio. Does he mean run a 9:00m\m? I would think that walk would chew some time. I would like to try this on my next long run. |
2012-09-05 11:41 AM in reply to: #4396250 |
New user 205 Athens, GA | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? tkos - 2012-09-05 11:58 AM Assuming you have a finish time in mind and pace accordingly, both methods should get you to the end at the same time. One will get you there at an even pace, one you will need to run much faster to account for the walking. Chances are whatever time you achieve using a walk run method (assuming no injuries) you could do running consistently and paced appropriately. In my case study of one, this has held to be true. I will add, however, that after training runs and races using run/walk, I feel better and recover faster. |
2012-09-05 11:55 AM in reply to: #4396332 |
New user 205 Athens, GA | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? GAUG3 - 2012-09-05 12:36 PM If you want to run a 1:59 half mary (9:05m\m) and you use the 4min run:1min walk, what pace are you running during those 4 minutes? What pace are you walking? I see where his 9:00m\m says 4:1 ratio. Does he mean run a 9:00m\m? I would think that walk would chew some time. I would like to try this on my next long run. http://www.coachdino.org/runwalk.htm In my case (edit to clarify: a 2:04 HM), my pace during the run segments was pretty close to my 5K PR pace at the time (though a month later I knocked a minute off of my 5K so, probably more accurately between 5K and 10K pace). Edited by paxsarah 2012-09-05 11:57 AM |
2012-09-05 12:28 PM in reply to: #4395547 |
Veteran 251 Louisville | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? I'm slow as a general rule but I have gotten faster run/walking. I don't know if it's my overall improved fitness or just in my head but my running intervals are faster and I run harder because I know I'll get the quick recovery period. I've also heard intervals burn more calories But to measure, I ran a 5k for the first time after 2+ years of almost complete inactivity in March averaging about 15 min/mi. I ran a 5k last weekend averaging 12 min/mi. |
2012-09-05 1:12 PM in reply to: #4395547 |
Expert 898 Plano, National Capital Region | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? i think this works if you can make up the time you are walking easily in the pace of the run. Otherwise, a steady effort will be faster. Also, I think that the slower the run pace (or closer the run pace is to the walk pace), the less you have to 'make-up'. I do agree that walking some of the aid stations (to make sure you get the drink down especially if you're also taking in a gel) works well for me, but that's the only reason I'm slowing down from my constant effort. I think you can do the same thing just by regulating your pace (for example, dropping down from 7:45/mile to 8:15/mile pace would slowly level off heart rate if it was climbing too quickly without having to actually walk). |
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2012-09-05 6:34 PM in reply to: #4395547 |
Veteran 459 Indiana | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? I am definitely faster on anything 10k or over using the run/walk method. I have had the best results with 9:1, but I haven't done enough experimenting to be sure that's really the best for me. |
2012-09-06 9:56 AM in reply to: #4395547 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? Endurance racing (for most of us) is about NOT SLOWING DOWN! Run/walk/run can be effective for longer/harder races. Badwater 135, for example. No one is running that whole thing. It is WAY better to work walking into your race strategy than to hit the wall & be forced to walk late in the race. |
2012-09-06 12:10 PM in reply to: #4395547 |
Regular 91 | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? Its key to follow the plan the whole race, especially the beginning. If your doing a marathon you cant run the first half and then decide to galloway the last half. The purpose of the galloway is to let the legs recover. If you run them dead in the first half you wont get them back no matter how much you walk in the second half. |
2012-09-06 12:18 PM in reply to: #4398119 |
Master 4118 Toronto | Subject: RE: Anyone faster using Galloway than full run? pga_mike - 2012-09-06 10:56 AM Endurance racing (for most of us) is about NOT SLOWING DOWN! Run/walk/run can be effective for longer/harder races. Badwater 135, for example. No one is running that whole thing. It is WAY better to work walking into your race strategy than to hit the wall & be forced to walk late in the race. Totally agree about making it your strategy. Especially if you do it in training. If that's the way you should race. I started with a popular running store here in Canada and they use the 10:1 ratio - worked really really well for me as I started out. I eventually phased them out. But I did experience the faster with run/walk than steady at the 10k distance. It was very surprising. Do what works for you - lots of people don't like it but it can work. On another running board there was a guy who could do 3:30 marathon as a pacer. If you're aiming for faster than that it might be challenging to maintain but really do what works for you. |
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