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2013-10-19 5:44 AM


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Subject: heart rate training - something seriously wrong
I had an ECG on Thursday my heart rate was 48 bpm. Doctor said not worried as I am fit it is what she would expect. Okay - dont really think I am that fit but whatever. However when I run my heart rate jumps dramatically - today for example I ran 8km in around an hour - average heart rate 189bpm maximum heart rate 199bpm. That is me running at 8kph about a 12 and a bit minute mile - ie slow trying to keep my heart rate down. I have previously posted about a high heart rate when running and was advised to slow down. I am running as slowly as I can any slower and I would be walking. I am 53, female, weight 144lbs and my blood pressure is usually low, it was taken on Thursday and was 122/60 which is actually a good bit higher than usual for me - normally around 90/60. My doctor isnt worried but I must admit I kinda am! If it is relevant I have been running for a bit over a year on a regular basis.


2013-10-19 5:51 AM
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There can be significant differences in "normal" HR between different individuals.  If you're doctor isn't concerned, then you probably don't need to be either, but if it continues to concern you go to another doctor for a second opinion.

 

2013-10-19 7:15 AM
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Have you had a stress test? Probably nothing to be concerned about but 189 is pretty high for a 53 YO. (I am 54 and I know (because I have done the actual test) that my max is ~172.) There is significant differences between individuals so probably not significant. I had a stress test before I started ramping up my training and it really gave me some peace of mind.
2013-10-19 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by NMS I had an ECG on Thursday my heart rate was 48 bpm. Doctor said not worried as I am fit it is what she would expect. Okay - dont really think I am that fit but whatever. However when I run my heart rate jumps dramatically - today for example I ran 8km in around an hour - average heart rate 189bpm maximum heart rate 199bpm. That is me running at 8kph about a 12 and a bit minute mile - ie slow trying to keep my heart rate down. I have previously posted about a high heart rate when running and was advised to slow down. I am running as slowly as I can any slower and I would be walking. I am 53, female, weight 144lbs and my blood pressure is usually low, it was taken on Thursday and was 122/60 which is actually a good bit higher than usual for me - normally around 90/60. My doctor isnt worried but I must admit I kinda am! If it is relevant I have been running for a bit over a year on a regular basis.
Everyone's different when it comes to HR.  That's why it is often recommended to the the field LT test and use the BT HR zone calculator to determine your zones. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=633.

A friend of mine has a very high running HR.  I forget his LT but IIRC it was in the mid 190's which is ~ 20 bpm higher than mine.

My wife also has a very low BP like you, doc isn't worried as she's a runner but she was recently diagnosed with a hypothroid condition after her latest physical.

2013-10-19 11:20 PM
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I guess one question is does it feel uncomfortable with our heart beating that fast or is it normal. As folks have said there is a large range in normal and max HR. I am fairly typical with resting HR 40-45 and LT 175. But I know folks who run a 10 or 11 mpm pace with hr up in the low 190s. But ya if you are concerned, you can get a specilast to have a look.
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I guess one question is does it feel uncomfortable with our heart beating that fast or is it normal. As folks have said there is a large range in normal and max HR. I am fairly typical with resting HR 40-45 and LT 175. But I know folks who run a 10 or 11 mpm pace with hr up in the low 190s. But ya if you are concerned, you can get a specilast to have a look.


2013-10-20 6:21 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I thnk I will look into a stress test that should as said give me peace of mind. I do find running difficult and can't help but wonder if this is why.
2013-10-20 8:39 AM
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Just curious, have you verified your HR monitor readings by taking your pulse manually when it says your HR is 190? I'm assuming you have, but I thought it was worth bringing up. My Polar HR monitor consistently reads my HR as over 170 unless I start sweating a lot (due to the static electricity of my shirt). I fixed this by applying some electrode gel to the metal contacts on the chest strap. Then it reads correctly, 115-135 vs the incorrect 170+ reading.
2013-10-21 3:21 PM
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Originally posted by johnmoran

Just curious, have you verified your HR monitor readings by taking your pulse manually when it says your HR is 190? I'm assuming you have, but I thought it was worth bringing up. My Polar HR monitor consistently reads my HR as over 170 unless I start sweating a lot (due to the static electricity of my shirt). I fixed this by applying some electrode gel to the metal contacts on the chest strap. Then it reads correctly, 115-135 vs the incorrect 170+ reading.


This. First corroborate what the mechanicals are telling you with old fashioned finger on the wrist. Second, while HR may spike that high during intensity, if you are getting that while running slow, then something is not quite right somewhere.

Corroborate manually, then if needed get a stress test, and possibly a holter (24 hour recording) monitor.

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