Sept 15-Oct 15 "Daniel's Running Formula" Book Club (Page 19)

If there is one thing I don't worry too much about it's listening to my body. I have that down pretty well.

I love your idea of different types of long runs with MP, fast finish and progression. I am definitely going to integrate this into my plan. THANKS

Totally planned on the JD/Pfitz blend. I sorta did that last time around only with pretty much just 1 day of quality. I feel really good with 2 days now at 70 MPW and don't see any issues maintainng that through 90. As I said, we will see though. I don't see any issues even in getting higher MPW but I don't want to sacrifice quality with mileage for mileage sake as the ROI becomes less at less at those kinds of numbers.

AS for the taper, I find I prefer it to be shorter (2 weeks) 

Additionally, if anyone cares to answer my taper question in the TT thread, it would be helpful. Or yet again one of my threads will fall flat in there: HELP!

My taper schedule seemed to work pretty well for my 10K, if you're wanting to rest the week of.

That's not really what I am asking though. Did you go to the thread/was it unclear? 

Salty:  "I have a question!"  /end thread> 

Seriously. Every effing time. It's really frustrating. So, thanks to those of you who help out in here anyhoo.

I read it.  What you're looking for is a taper that may work for your "A" race, if I'm reading correctly.  I suggested my taper schedule for my 10K, which you can try and adjust according depending on how you do. 

How do you normally feel before these other races?  Tired in any way?  When do you feel the race start to become difficult?

Bump done...and I rephrased the question (I think).

Haha, THanks guys. Was it unclear to start with? I sometimes feel like I might not be clear but I would prefer if people would just ask for clarification. Generally there is a reason for why I word things a certain way. But it might not always come across how I intend. 

I think that a taper is quite specific to a person, like most things in training. What works for you doesn't necessarily work for me. 

I have come into most of my other races with about 45-50 miles on my legs (plus the cumulative fatigue) so yeah, my legs are tired coming into the race. But that is to be expected when training through.

The race is difficult from the get-go. It's very high intensity.

And just food for thought on posting on there on TT...there aren't many folks out there that could relate to the type of weekly mileage or race frequency you're currently going through, much less be qualified to give you sound advice.

Sure,  however people will only have what works for them as a suggestion for taper.  You never know what works for you until you try.

Have you had a recovery week leading up to any of these races?  In my training plan, Fitzgerald has me in a recovery week leading up to any of the races I run.

Perhaps.

Well. I don't necessarily agree. I think there are plenty of people who have a much more technical understanding of exercise science than I do on this site. You don't need to be doing high mileage to understand how it affects ones body (if you have that higher level of understanding.)

If that makes sense.

I gave you an answer but it's not based on any exercise science so probably not that helpful.  

Well, I mean, it's always nice to hear what Canadians have to say about things, too.  

I know, eh??

I just haven't really had much of a chance to think about it as well as I'd like. And for some reason, I honestly didn't even see the post until after it was pointed out. I tend to go a lot by feel leading into a race and know that I'll do fairly well with the general idea of load reduction and just a bit of sharpening in there.

I've had the same trouble when asking questions at times. Almost no one will answer except one time, but that wasn't really a training question. Only a few thoughts why, but not really sure about any of them.

To be fair, BT activity has been down as a whole.  

True, but my thinking goes back more than a year.

I'm trying to incorporate JD's principles and 5K to 15K training plan into my tri schedule for next year.  Phase 1 is pretty easy to do...lots of 'E' running.  The issue is when quality is introduced in Phase 2.  The plan in the book starts you at 2.5 miles of 'R' pace and 5 miles at 'T' pace in the first two Q workouts, which runs out to a 50 mpw (!!!!) if you follow JD's weekly limits on those types of runs.

I can easily scale them down to fit my total mpw for the week (which will be around 20 at that point), but should I just jump to max the first week in or scale it up a couple of weeks?  The two Qs would look like this:

Q1:  1 mile WU, 2x (2 x 200 w/ 200 recovery jogs, 1 x 400 w/ 400 recovery), 1 mile CD...4 miles total (1 mile @ R)

Q2:  2 mile WU, 2 miles 'T', 1 mile CD...5 miles total (2 miles @ T)

I'm at 20 mpw give or take right now, and would be comfortable throwing those two into a week at this point. 

I'd be concerned that would be a little intense not having done any intensity for about 9-10 weeks (accounting for my upcoming Transition phase, and subsequent rebuild through Phase 1).  The Q runs would be Tuesday morning and Thursday afternoon, if that makes any difference.