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 2014-03-05 10:34 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Member  1293    Pearland,Tx |  Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam??Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
Bro....you need to send me some of those gifs.....I could be dangerous....and slanderous....and such. sure LB pm me your email  |
| 2014-03-05 10:42 PM in reply to: strykergt |
Pro 15655  | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain sure LB pm me your email Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
Bro....you need to send me some of those gifs.....I could be dangerous....and slanderous....and such. No way dude.....you just want to send me a coaching offer. I'm not stupid. |
| 2014-03-06 12:31 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Member 1293 Pearland,Tx | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain sure LB pm me your email Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
Bro....you need to send me some of those gifs.....I could be dangerous....and slanderous....and such. No way dude.....you just want to send me a coaching offer. I'm not stupid. (SmileyROFLMAO.gif) Attachments ---------------- SmileyROFLMAO.gif (63KB - 5 downloads) |
| 2014-03-06 7:04 AM in reply to: AdventureBear |
Member 65 Milwaukee | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Susan, I'm not sure how you can say that you aren't affiliated with TriDot. Perhaps you don't get paid. I doubt that since you participated in one of their marketing events a few nights or so ago. http://triathlonresearch.org/live-event/triathlon-season-planning/?... I had gotten TONS of emails from TriDot and did go and watch the video presentation after the fact. It implies that you work for TriDot. |
| 2014-03-06 7:19 AM in reply to: kskonkol |
| 96 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by kskonkol Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Susan, I'm not sure how you can say that you aren't affiliated with TriDot. Perhaps you don't get paid. I doubt that since you participated in one of their marketing events a few nights or so ago. http://triathlonresearch.org/live-event/triathlon-season-planning/?... I had gotten TONS of emails from TriDot and did go and watch the video presentation after the fact. It implies that you work for TriDot. judging by the vehemence of the reaction, we all know Susan has some connection to the man the rest of us know as Boo. to clarify, never asked if people following it did not get a plan for their money, the question was, did anyone who did the "free" program get their money back. also, in order to be "slanderous" i would have had to say something untrue - like, "i did everything Boo told me to and did t get my money back" Susan, I didnt give him money, I asked if anyone did not get their money back. now you, on the other hand, accused me of illegal activity - i.e. slander and accused me of calling it a nigerian coaching scam -- i think i shall have Left Brain sue you for the emotional distress you caused by making such accusations. I am hurtin real bad right now. real bad. |
| 2014-03-06 8:58 AM in reply to: strykergt |
Regular 1161 Hamilton, IL | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain sure LB pm me your email Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
Bro....you need to send me some of those gifs.....I could be dangerous....and slanderous....and such. No way dude.....you just want to send me a coaching offer. I'm not stupid. Just wanted to quote a million quotes. Carry on. |
| 2014-03-06 10:18 AM in reply to: AdventureBear |
Member 92 Sarnia | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Suzanne, I know you are linked to the TriDot team as I have been on the last 2 webinars that you have been a part of (presuming I have the right person of course) My suggestion would be rather than attacking someone for being concerned, you provide the OP with a contact email that you may have as a result of your personal connections and let the OP question the good folks at TriDot themselves and then come back to the thread and post an update. You can't blame someone for being skeptical of potential internet scams. |
| 2014-03-06 10:25 AM in reply to: kskonkol |
| over a barrier | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by kskonkol Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Susan, I'm not sure how you can say that you aren't affiliated with TriDot. Perhaps you don't get paid. I doubt that since you participated in one of their marketing events a few nights or so ago. http://triathlonresearch.org/live-event/triathlon-season-planning/?... I had gotten TONS of emails from TriDot and did go and watch the video presentation after the fact. It implies that you work for TriDot. She didn't say she is or isn't affiliated w/ TDot. "FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff" She does some web panels w/ TriDot, Endurance Film and a few others... |
| 2014-03-06 10:40 AM in reply to: running2far |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam??
And that boys and girls is how one email can ruin your reputation for 1,000's of people.
The response from "Boo" or one of his lackeys was bad form and now many people that have never even heard of TriDot before now have a bad taste in their mouth from this one email. Oh the power of the internet, pays to think before pushing that send button. If anyone knows Boo, now would be the time to email him a link to this thread so he can do some damage control and try to make things right with the OP. |
| 2014-03-06 10:51 AM in reply to: kenj |
New user 23 Concord, NC | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by kenj Originally posted by jlshafer Originally posted by JZig Is anyone even sure that "Boo" is actually with the Tridot coaching system, and not just some Nigerian scammer spoofing them? Yes, Coach Boo is legit You wouldn't be Boo would you? LOL...nope. Just an athlete...I have no connection w/ them |
| 2014-03-06 11:01 AM in reply to: Danno77 |
Elite 3090 Spokane, WA | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Danno77 Originally posted by strykergt Just wanted to quote a million quotes. Carry on. Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain sure LB pm me your email Originally posted by strykergt Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. No, actually, it's not a criminal offense (crime). It can be adjudicated in civil court for damages......I wouldn't advise that based on the response the OP received and the fact that it was an unsolicited e-mail. The OP has a better case of Harassment then the sender does for any damages. LOL See, this is what happens when the headline of the day is "Teen Sues Parents" . hahahaha
Bro....you need to send me some of those gifs.....I could be dangerous....and slanderous....and such. No way dude.....you just want to send me a coaching offer. I'm not stupid. Literally |
| 2014-03-06 11:02 AM in reply to: Jason N |
New user 23 Concord, NC | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Jason N Could be a scam, but as long as they are accepting CC payment, then you shouldn't be liable if it's a scam. Now if they are asking for a check, cash, bank account info, SSN, etc...then yeah...no way.
Folks, the Tridot Coach made a bad call in how he responded to the guys e-mail. He asked a far question about whether Tridot was legit or not, but at this point we should be past the 'scam' comments. I've watched at least 3 web sessions with Coach Boo and Bobby McGee (among others from TriSports, Total Immersion, etc.). These folks would never partner w/ Tridot if they weren't on the up-an-up. |
| 2014-03-06 11:56 AM in reply to: 0 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by kskonkol Originally posted by AdventureBear It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Susan, I'm not sure how you can say that you aren't affiliated with TriDot. Perhaps you don't get paid. I doubt that since you participated in one of their marketing events a few nights or so ago. http://triathlonresearch.org/live-event/triathlon-season-planning/?... I had gotten TONS of emails from TriDot and did go and watch the video presentation after the fact. It implies that you work for TriDot. What you are seeing is many independent companies interacting with each other. Jeff and I had a discussion. At the end of that discussion Jeff has a product to promote that he feels is of value. Does it appear that Danny or Seton is also working for TriDot or just me (both gentlemen were on the call) ? Whatever the case, please, please tell me because I have my own independent coaching company. My #1 goal on every show I host is to get good quality information out of the presenters and not let them hide their cards. Sometimes it's hard and it's like herding cats, but I want to make sure that if you spend the time listening, that you feel like it was worth your time. I don't get paid to host webinars or if anyone sells any products as a result (unless its one of mine of course!). I use them for a) opportunity to interview great guests, professional athletes like Tim Don & Leanda Cave, Industry experts etc.like (Ivan from Retul) and b) to increase my exposure to anyone watching and to be affiliated with great coaches like Bobby McGee, Terry Laughlin, Bob Seebohar and yes, Jeff. It sounds like the emails you received were from BOTH triathlon research AND from Tridot, both promoting the same things which is why you feel like you got spammed. Edited by AdventureBear 2014-03-06 12:08 PM |
| 2014-03-06 11:57 AM in reply to: AdventureBear |
| 631 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by Left Brain Woah............where is the false statement? when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund?
Surely could have been worded better....but it's a question, not a false statement. In light of the response he got from his e-mail, I'd say it's certainly a fair question. Asking the question as if it's a fact that someone was not refunded. Really poor taste. It's fine to rant about things you don't like. It's not fine to slander and I am pretty sure it's actually a crime. wouldn't it be libel not slander? You also need to show that the statement was made, caused harm, and it was made without researching the truthfulness of the statement. You are also going to need to show your work where this thread has actually caused damage. Since the thread clearing states that it is a legit company I doubt anyone reading the thread is making their decision not to use the services on the OP. |
| 2014-03-06 12:16 PM in reply to: Aarondb4 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Aarondb4
And that boys and girls is how one email can ruin your reputation for 1,000's of people.
The response from "Boo" or one of his lackeys was bad form and now many people that have never even heard of TriDot before now have a bad taste in their mouth from this one email. Oh the power of the internet, pays to think before pushing that send button. If anyone knows Boo, now would be the time to email him a link to this thread so he can do some damage control and try to make things right with the OP. Well put. And to add onto that, I'm having a hard time understanding how Susan (adventurebear) potentially working for TriDot or not has anything to do with it. Hell, to me, knowing she is a respected member of the BT community and KNOWING some of the phenomenal advice and feedback she has given on here would only lend credence to the fact that it is a legit company if she is defending them as a company. Was his email out of line. Probably. But that doesn't change the fact that they are legit and a legit member of our community said as much. |
| 2014-03-06 12:21 PM in reply to: crowny2 |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Thanks I appreciate that. I've been a member of the BT community since my first triathlon way back in 2004. I learned a lot and try to give back a lot. |
| 2014-03-06 12:24 PM in reply to: jlshafer |
| Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by jlshafer Originally posted by Jason N Folks, the Tridot Coach made a bad call in how he responded to the guys e-mail. He asked a far question about whether Tridot was legit or not, but at this point we should be past the 'scam' comments. I've watched at least 3 web sessions with Coach Boo and Bobby McGee (among others from TriSports, Total Immersion, etc.). These folks would never partner w/ Tridot if they weren't on the up-an-up. Could be a scam, but as long as they are accepting CC payment, then you shouldn't be liable if it's a scam. Now if they are asking for a check, cash, bank account info, SSN, etc...then yeah...no way.
Yeah...but that doesn't mean it's not possibly a scam. If I sent you an unsolicited email to you claiming to be a well known coach, working on behalf of a well known coaching organization, and asked you to send me $500 in the form of cash, money order, or your checking account routing number...promising to give you a refund...would you do it? There are red flags you have to be wary of on the internet. Unsolicited emails are a huge red flag...but if you are paying with a credit card, at least you as the customer are protected. My post about it possibly being a scam has nothing to do with TriDot or Coach Boo...it has everything to do with how the OP got in contact with them, and what type of payment they were asking for. |
| 2014-03-06 12:26 PM in reply to: crowny2 |
Regular 1161 Hamilton, IL | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by Aarondb4
And that boys and girls is how one email can ruin your reputation for 1,000's of people.
The response from "Boo" or one of his lackeys was bad form and now many people that have never even heard of TriDot before now have a bad taste in their mouth from this one email. Oh the power of the internet, pays to think before pushing that send button. If anyone knows Boo, now would be the time to email him a link to this thread so he can do some damage control and try to make things right with the OP. Well put. And to add onto that, I'm having a hard time understanding how Susan (adventurebear) potentially working for TriDot or not has anything to do with it. Hell, to me, knowing she is a respected member of the BT community and KNOWING some of the phenomenal advice and feedback she has given on here would only lend credence to the fact that it is a legit company if she is defending them as a company. Was his email out of line. Probably. But that doesn't change the fact that they are legit and a legit member of our community said as much. I'm glad someone said this (on both accounts) |
| 2014-03-06 12:35 PM in reply to: 0 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? In summation: TriDot is a legitimate and isn't a coaching scam. Coach Boo doesn't understand how to respond to emails probably and probably needs some specific training on how to communicate through the written word. Adventure Bear/Suzanne does NOT work for TriDot. There you go. Edited by KSH 2014-03-06 12:36 PM |
| 2014-03-06 12:41 PM in reply to: KSH |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by KSH In summation: TriDot is a legitimate and isn't a coaching scam. Coach Boo doesn't understand how to respond to emails probably and probably needs some specific training on how to communicate through the written word. Adventure Bear/Suzanne does NOT work for TriDot. There you go. Also, free=pay up front, refund later isn't a very viable business model. |
| 2014-03-06 12:47 PM in reply to: thebigb |
Regular 1161 Hamilton, IL | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by KSH In summation: TriDot is a legitimate and isn't a coaching scam. Coach Boo doesn't understand how to respond to emails probably and probably needs some specific training on how to communicate through the written word. Adventure Bear/Suzanne does NOT work for TriDot. There you go. Also, free=pay up front, refund later isn't a very viable business model. Sure it is. Stores make tons of money on mail-in rebates that people are too lazy to send back in. This model anticipates that the lazy people who don't complete the obligations won't get their money back and therefore won't have completely wasted the time of the coaches. |
| 2014-03-06 12:53 PM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 3145 Scottsdale, AZ | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Danno77 Originally posted by thebigb Sure it is. Stores make tons of money on mail-in rebates that people are too lazy to send back in. This model anticipates that the lazy people who don't complete the obligations won't get their money back and therefore won't have completely wasted the time of the coaches. Originally posted by KSH In summation: TriDot is a legitimate and isn't a coaching scam. Coach Boo doesn't understand how to respond to emails probably and probably needs some specific training on how to communicate through the written word. Adventure Bear/Suzanne does NOT work for TriDot. There you go. Also, free=pay up front, refund later isn't a very viable business model. we're not talking $2 off oreos here. There's been other endurance natured offerings of the similar variety that have failed to catch on and this is exactly why, it wreaks of a scam. *even though this one apparently is legit. Edited by thebigb 2014-03-06 12:54 PM |
| 2014-03-06 12:58 PM in reply to: thebigb |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by Danno77 Originally posted by thebigb Sure it is. Stores make tons of money on mail-in rebates that people are too lazy to send back in. This model anticipates that the lazy people who don't complete the obligations won't get their money back and therefore won't have completely wasted the time of the coaches. Originally posted by KSH In summation: TriDot is a legitimate and isn't a coaching scam. Coach Boo doesn't understand how to respond to emails probably and probably needs some specific training on how to communicate through the written word. Adventure Bear/Suzanne does NOT work for TriDot. There you go. Also, free=pay up front, refund later isn't a very viable business model. we're not talking $2 off oreos here. There's been other endurance natured offerings of the similar variety that have failed to catch on and this is exactly why, it wreaks of a scam. *even though this one apparently is legit. Whoa.....where can I get $2 off oreos? |
| 2014-03-06 12:59 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
| Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by thebigb Originally posted by Danno77 Originally posted by thebigb Sure it is. Stores make tons of money on mail-in rebates that people are too lazy to send back in. This model anticipates that the lazy people who don't complete the obligations won't get their money back and therefore won't have completely wasted the time of the coaches. Originally posted by KSH In summation: TriDot is a legitimate and isn't a coaching scam. Coach Boo doesn't understand how to respond to emails probably and probably needs some specific training on how to communicate through the written word. Adventure Bear/Suzanne does NOT work for TriDot. There you go. Also, free=pay up front, refund later isn't a very viable business model. we're not talking $2 off oreos here. There's been other endurance natured offerings of the similar variety that have failed to catch on and this is exactly why, it wreaks of a scam. *even though this one apparently is legit. Whoa.....where can I get $2 off oreos? You're supposed to skip dessert. |
| 2014-03-06 1:02 PM in reply to: gotbitten |
New user 23 Concord, NC | Subject: RE: TriDot coaching scam?? Originally posted by gotbitten Originally posted by kskonkol Originally posted by AdventureBear Originally posted by gotbitten I was spammed with a bunch of emails about the TriDot coaching system - free coaching if you are selected to be part of the Free For Feedback program. I sent them my info, and surprise, I was selected! of course, only a few people were selected and they "may never do it again." I receive an email from "Coach Boo", the TriDot founder, telling me that this great free deal just requires me to sign up, pay the $7 signup fee, the $100 initiation fee, and pay for two months at $77 per month. grand total, $261. After I complete the workouts and give them feedback, then they refund the $261. if you have questions, please do email Coach Boo. so I email good old Boo, one sentence, in its entirety, "so let me get this straight, I pay $261 and then I will get it free?" response: we literally have thousands of athletes who are very excited to participate and wouldn't be able to without this program, but we are now declining you as it sounds you are not as excited as the thousands that are overwhelmingly excited. my thought: if you really are doing this just to get feedback, why do you need to charge $261? I was one of only a very select number, yet the thousands you have selected are "very" excited? My Question: Has anyone ever given these people money, and when it came time for the refund, what was the excuse for not giving the refund? It's unfortunate that your exchange with Jeff ... or more likely someone who was working with him fielding emails ... led to this 2 page thread accusing tridot of being a scam. You don't have to like their marketing, and in fact you can hate it. But what you are making is a false statement that is potentially damaging to their reputation. At worst you were the recipient of a) emails you didn't want and b) a poor customer service reply. Now you are accusing them of not giving refunds. I think that is very distasteful. Anyway, here is my original post from a year ago to a similar thread: ===== i first became acquainted with Jeff last spring through one if my swimmers. the athlete had been receiving coaching with tridot and asked me to do his swimming program. during the 6 months we worked together i saw many of his workouts from tridot via training peaks as i was the primary coach on training peaks. he entered his workouts there to log training. i saw all of his race results. many podium positions for his age group. this athletes times continued to improve all season, the plan addressed his biggest weaknesses, there was nothing i saw that raised any red flags at all. he had regular communication with his coach and trained with her routinely...and coaches her in swimming! based on what i saw in his training peaks workouts and his race results i think its a great program. Ive spoken with Jeff on the phone several times since then and i think his understanding if physiology and training is excellent. lots of great testimonials on his site ===== Finally, one of the athletes I am currently coaching, used TriDot last year to train for his half iron A race, and PR'd the race and he had no complaints. Two of my friends (the athlete I posted about in the paragraph above) and another friend since then, are both coaching for TriDot. FWIW, I have no financial incentive for endorsing Jeff or referring anyone to his program. It is not a scam, and yes they will give you a refund. Susan, I'm not sure how you can say that you aren't affiliated with TriDot. Perhaps you don't get paid. I doubt that since you participated in one of their marketing events a few nights or so ago. http://triathlonresearch.org/live-event/triathlon-season-planning/?... I had gotten TONS of emails from TriDot and did go and watch the video presentation after the fact. It implies that you work for TriDot. judging by the vehemence of the reaction, we all know Susan has some connection to the man the rest of us know as Boo. to clarify, never asked if people following it did not get a plan for their money, the question was, did anyone who did the "free" program get their money back. also, in order to be "slanderous" i would have had to say something untrue - like, "i did everything Boo told me to and did t get my money back" Susan, I didnt give him money, I asked if anyone did not get their money back. now you, on the other hand, accused me of illegal activity - i.e. slander and accused me of calling it a nigerian coaching scam -- i think i shall have Left Brain sue you for the emotional distress you caused by making such accusations. I am hurtin real bad right now. real bad. YES! As I stated in my original post, I had a complex situation come up, and I DID receive a refund. |
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