You're doing it wrong Tiger

I doubt Tiger got those different meds off the street....but admittedly, I don't know about the trends in his area. Where I am we basically never see Ambien bought on the street, but Docs prescribe it like candy. I dont get that one since we quite often come upon people driving after taking it and most of them don't even know where the hell they are. As for heroin.....yeah, most young people start out taking prescription pain drugs that came from some parent's raided medicine cabinet.....and it's crazy expensive on the street....50.00 per pill is not uncommon. For that reason it's a very shallow leap to a 10.00 button of heroin. Then it's not jump at all to eventually come across fentynal or carfentynal, which kills you so fast we find people with the needle still in their arm or a straw, or button, still in their hand.....nearly instant OD. Went to the scene of 3 of those last week.....they come in bunches when a dealer sells fentynal.....many times unknowingly since the market will get flooded with it and virtally everyone involved thinks they were selling/using heroin.There is still a stigma for older people and heroin....so just as many addicts because they can get the scripts, but fewer deaths because they know what they're getting . The Walking Dead is real! Sorry if this is formatted poorly....phone was never taught paragraphs.

Edited by Left Brain 2017-08-15 3:39 PM

No doubt he didn't get them on the street either. I wonder if the AMA is looking at his treating Physicians? I just think his statement is weak and an indication to me, that he was ordered to attend rehab and it was not his choice. No program in the world is going to work until the user has determined that they are done abusing whatever substance they are using. Personal experience.

Ambien is administered like candy and should be monitored a little closer than it is IMO. Chit is a wicked mind eraser and that alone was one of the reasons I dropped it. If I cut a tab in 1/4, which is difficult because they are so small, it wasn't as harsh. I recall taking a whole tab once and having to get out of bed to let the cat out. Each step I took was like a slo-mo movie! I stopped walking and the image being transmitted to my mind ratcheted and it took a second for perceived movement to stop. I thought, "Wow, this stuff would combine nicely with a Vicodin!" Another reason I stopped taking it...

He was also taking Dilaudid. Never had that before, but I recall my Dad hallucinating in the ER after they administered it to him. Combine that with Ambien and my goodness, I bet you would be effkucked up. A little weed and vicodin mixed in and you're in lala land. Seems Tiger needed a little down time for some reason. If he figures that out, why he needs that much depressant, and decides he's done abusing, he should be able to stay clean for life. Until then, we'll see him in the headlines again down the line.

I think he was able to get all these drugs by seeing more than one doc. I believe the new regulations change that and all the narcotics and schedule drugs are available on a database for the doctor to review before you visit. I think this gets a lot of drugs off the street. Drugs that are stolen from break ins or people that doctor shop to sell the drugs for a profit. Remove the supply and the demand is still there. The demand shifts to heroin which apparently has a pretty good supply. An unregulated supply.

Celebs getting what they want seems to have been true in the past. Surely the new regs can stop that? I'm not sure if it's a federal monitoring process or state level. Anyone know? If it is state level, I can see someone with unlimited travel benefits like Tiger still getting around things by visiting a doc in another state. It would be easy enough to convince one by using the excuse of just needing a 'little help' to get on the driving range for this weeks tourney.

The new regs won't stop anything.  There is not a single law on the books that can stop people from getting and using the drug of their choice....there never has been and there never will be.  Alcohol prohibition was a similar failure because you can't legislate, with any effectiveness at all, what people put in to their own bodies.

Do you want to REALLY save lives from overdose?  Then legalize heroin and let the govt. regulate the purity. 

LAWS DO NOT STOP PEOPLE FROM USING DRUGS!!!  The ONLY things that have ever stopped someone is not starting to begin with or becoming addicted to the point that their lives became unmanageable and they decided to get help and stop.

What are we going to do now, start another "war on drugs"?  You (collective you/us/we) know the definition of insanity right?

Edited by Left Brain 2017-08-17 2:33 PM

The new regs stopped me from getting pain relief back in May. LSS, I fell from 5-6 feet right on my neck and head. Company doc offered me 10 tablets of flexiril, an ice pack and some freeze gel. It wasn't until I finally got to see a surgeon in late June that I was offered pain management. I told my boss that I was going to fly to Denver for 'help'. He kind of laughed and 'reminded' me that I wasnt subject to random DOT testing while out on OJI status! My luck, they'd have random dog searches in the airport when I got home!
The thing is, if the regs could have pushed me to weed (no, I don't think I could have gone through with it), I can see the regs pushing a pill addict without free flight benefits to try heroin. Slippery slope without a clear answer IMO. Legalization and quality control would probably stop a lot of "hot dose" over doses, but I think it opens a door that we don't need to revisit. I think the epidemic was even worse back when one could get heroin and cocaine in the Sears catalog.

The new regs keep the average joe from hurting himself, but you're right, if someone wants to get efked up, they'll find a way.

Edited by mdg2003 2017-08-20 10:03 AM

Then there's alcohol. I got a kick out this woman's mugshot, with a bac of .20. Reportedly driving with an unrestrained kid in the backseat.

Edited by mdg2003 2017-08-21 8:01 AM






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Sorry about that BTers; bet that made for some early AM coffee spitting!