how to transition from runner to triathlete
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hello all. I've been a running for about 4 years now, off and on. I've completed one marathon (currently training for a second October 2008), several half marathons, several 5 mile races and a few 5ks. I'd like to do some cross training with the bike now and start swimming this winter and start doing some triathlons next year. I've started biking the last two weeks (I've done an 8 mile, 10 mile and 6 mile bike ride in place of a 3 mile, 4 mile and 3 mile run). I run at night after the kids are in bed and will be biking at night as well (as safe as I can: helmet, multiple lights, decent roads, minimal traffic, cell phone, etc.) My plan is to bike some until my marathon this fall and then really get into more biking and eventually start swimming at our local Y. I'm not sure how much I should be biking each time I go out. It took me about 50 minutes to do the 10 miles with stop signs, stop lights, and stopping to let traffic go first (I don't trust any car at night . . . running or biking). 6 miles was in town and 4 miles was outside of town. I'm use to marathon training programs like Hal Higdon for running but where do I start for biking? Most of the plans I've seem assume you can swim, bike and run certain times before starting the plan. Where should I start?? I currently run 4-5 days per week. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Take a look at the couch to sprint training plans - they're a great place for getting started when you're coming from almost nothing on the bike and swim. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() From what i have heard you can import in different parts from different plans, meaning. If your an advanced runner, which it sounds like you are, import the marathon plan, then maybe import the coach to sprint plan for the biking and swimming. You may also want to look for a local bike club to do group ride or a masters swim team to do swimming with. Hope that helps you. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If you don't have time to bike while there is light out I would seriously recommend getting a trainer and cycling in your garage/living room or where ever you have space. Then maybe get in a longer ride outside during the weekend when you can do it during daylight hours. The advantages of this are the it is safer and that it is more time efficient. ![]() BTW, if you want to fit in biking and swimming you might have to cut back on the running. ![]() |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for the ideas. I had looked at the couch to sprint programs but I'm already close to the "time" that they recommend just not the "distance" needed due to the stop and go nature of my biking. I've also thought about doing some biking over my lunch hour a couple times a week. My work is close enough to some roads that would allow some steady biking. We do have a group that meets at a local park on the outskirts of town one night a week for various long rides but unfortunately, it's a night my wife has an activity so I have to include the kids. I've got the bike carrier that the kids and I can and do go out biking together but the added 60+ pounds really keeps me slow ![]() |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() go for time and dont owrry about distance. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Contrary to some of the advice above, I'd say it's time to just get out and ride. Whether it's on a trainer, lunch break, or if you really have to in the evenings... though if possible the more open road you can find the better (the stops and starts really are messing with you). You should make tremendous gains in the beginning with your background without worrying about intervals, etc. Just think what you would say if someone was just getting into running... you'd say "just get out and run at first." Same for the bike. With all 3 disciplines, it can be hard to find time to make it work. My goal for each week is a 90-120 minute ride twice during the week, and then a long ride on the weekend. Schedule won't permit those two weekday rides to get any longer, but the intensity is building regularly... whereas on saturday I just go about 15-30 minutes longer each time when I'm in a build. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm a runner who is learning tri too, sop my answer is not based on tri experience. Anyway, I didn't bother following any plan for biking or swimming (in part because I'm also working on recovering from some surgeries, which is touch and go, and I can't be a slave to any plan right now). I just get out on the bike whenever I can and ride. (I'm a long time bike commuter, but with no real experience on a road bike.) Sometimes I ride hard, sometimes not. Sometimes long, sometimes short. Same with swimming. (I started from scratch in swimming.) Sometimes I do sets of short swims, sometimes drill, sometime 'long' (for me) swims. My totally unsupported view is that at this very early stage in my biking and swimming careers, it is more important just to get out there and do it than to worry too much about a structured plan, especially one cobbled together from pieces of different plans. The only training considerations that I bring to bear are generic ones, like making sure that I get some rest after a really hard workout, mixing up durations and intensities, etc. Other than that, just do it! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() As a runner turned triathlete, I would recommend finding a swim coach. My first 4 years of tri-ing my swim time for a 1K was 24:30. After taking a break of 5 years, I got back into it. This time, I was going to do it right and got swimming lessons from someone who coached triathletes. My 1K time dropped to a PR of 16:44. My 1.2 mile time was 33:45. It was now way more enjoyable not being the last out of the water. My coach told me swimming is all about form, it is more like golf than it is like running or biking. Anyways, that's my 2 cents. Edited by ray6foot7 2008-08-12 8:50 AM |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() I know the swim part will be the hardest part for me (and probably why I'm putting it off to last). I've never been a "swimmer" in the sense of form or technique. I'm at the lake all the time in the summer and can "swim" but actually putting my face in the water . . . I do plan to take some lessons (they have adult swimming lessons at our Y) and work on technique from the start. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm a runner who just recently turned triathelete. (going on 5 months) From my experience, the two best pieces of advice I read in the thread so far is: 1. Get a swimming coach. My swimming has improved dramatically more than most of the other begginers because of one on one coaching. 2. Get in the saddle and ride, even if it means running less. I started at a 45 minute ride and gradually increased to 4 hours over 4 months. I would increase by 15-30 minutes per week and if I felt at the end of the increase it was a little too much, then I stayed at the time for another week or two. Then, I increased again. You gotta spend a lotta time in the saddle to notice a benefit. |
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![]() ![]() | ![]() Here is a bit of advice from a runner and novice-triathlete (for what its worth) Since you have a marathon in just two months, the running should stay the focus right now. You can use the bike for crosstraining during the week, and just bike for the same amount of time you would have run. You may not have much time or energy now to really start pushing the distance on the bike. But after the marathon, you can start your triathlon training and treat the biking like the running, where you start increasing your long rides every weekend. You may find that swimming is a better complement to the marathon training now, since it is completely different muscles. You can easily swim on the same days you run and not compromise your running. I am sure there are super-humans on this forum who can do long runs and bikes rides on the same weekend, but when I trained for a marathon last year, I certainly didn't want to do a hard bike ride the day after a 18 or 20 mile run. That's just me. |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() I agree. I'm focusing on the marathon right now and just doing some biking on my "easy" days instead of say a 3-4 mile recovery run. I'm planning to start my transition to biking and then swimming after the marathon but wanted to start getting some ideas now. |