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 2017-05-22 9:30 AM |
Champion  10157    Alabama |  Subject: Flynn won't comply with sobpoenaFormer National Security Adviser Michael Flynn will invoke his Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination on Monday as he notifies the Senate Intelligence committee that he will not comply with a subpoena seeking documents. "That's according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter. The person spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the private interactions between Flynn and the committee." Does anyone see the irony here? Unless you want your documents leaked to the public, don't release anything! |
| 2017-05-22 2:14 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Expert 2373 Floriduh | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena He's going to jail. Just a matter of time. |
| 2017-05-22 2:30 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Under the current climate....I would refuse to talk to that committee even if I did nothing. This entire "investigation" is unguided and without a target from what i can see. In that light, no way I would testify in front of it. I'd show up and plead the 5th to every question. If you think I'm guilty of something then charge me and I'll see you in court. You can take your committee and shove it. Edited by Left Brain 2017-05-22 2:31 PM |
| 2017-05-22 3:34 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Left Brain Under the current climate....I would refuse to talk to that committee even if I did nothing. This entire "investigation" is unguided and without a target from what i can see. In that light, no way I would testify in front of it. I'd show up and plead the 5th to every question. If you think I'm guilty of something then charge me and I'll see you in court. You can take your committee and shove it. 100% agreement. This is a no brainer. He has NOTHING to gain and EVERYTHING to lose by testifying. At this point he needs to go into a retreat at some cabin on the lake in the mountains and let his lawyers handle everything. As we saw precedent last year, he does not even need to show up! Just plead the 5th and ignore the subpoena just like Hillary's IT people did. |
| 2017-05-22 7:00 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena I don't know how you get the media on board because they thrive on this stuff, but it's really not even news. I'd like to see the 60-80% of us in the middle start to completely ignore the 10-20% of both ends who have nothing else to do with their lives but keep chit stirred up. I don't give a rats arse who walks out of their commencement ceremony or what their reason(s) might be. I don't care about the issues of any protest......not one bit. |
| 2017-05-23 7:59 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Left Brain I don't know how you get the media on board because they thrive on this stuff, but it's really not even news. I'd like to see the 60-80% of us in the middle start to completely ignore the 10-20% of both ends who have nothing else to do with their lives but keep chit stirred up. I don't give a rats arse who walks out of their commencement ceremony or what their reason(s) might be. I don't care about the issues of any protest......not one bit. "I don't care about the issues of any protest......not one bit." Amen. I've been saying this for months....years. I think protests are a waste of time and effort. It might make you feel better but most of the time it is misplaced anger. Kinda like kicking your flat tire. You aren't made at the tire and all you did was hurt you own toe when you kicked it. Seems to me the only way to effect change is to vote and help people who are sympathetic to your cause to get elected. If all who po'd woman who marched with p-hats on had organized and volunteered their time and money they might could have got someone elected who would be more sympathetic to their cause. But to come back AFTER the election and pitch a hissy fit does nothing by make you look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies. |
| 2017-05-23 8:01 AM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Left Brain Under the current climate....I would refuse to talk to that committee even if I did nothing. This entire "investigation" is unguided and without a target from what i can see. In that light, no way I would testify in front of it. I'd show up and plead the 5th to every question. If you think I'm guilty of something then charge me and I'll see you in court. You can take your committee and shove it. Unguided and without a target. Bingo, sort of. They do have a target and it's Donald Trump, even though he's not even downrange on this one. It's all part of the big 'delegitimize the administration' campaign they're running. With approval and complete compliance of the media I might add. It plays into all their future campaigns that will run on the notion our entire government has been in turmoil since the Rinos took over. Because they can't run AND WIN on the ideology and failed programs that they so readily promote with passion. From Keynesian economics to socialist govt principles, it's all failed somewhere before and will fail again. Better to make the other team look like the boogeyman than to attempt to explain just how their plan, based on concepts that have failed each and every time, will miraculously work if given just one more chance. And before my left leaning friends here pile on, please note that I don't have any more faith in the republicans unfu**ing this goat either  Well, maybe 5% higher chance than the dems.Edited by mdg2003 2017-05-23 8:03 AM |
| 2017-05-23 8:12 AM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Rogillio Originally posted by Left Brain I don't know how you get the media on board because they thrive on this stuff, but it's really not even news. I'd like to see the 60-80% of us in the middle start to completely ignore the 10-20% of both ends who have nothing else to do with their lives but keep chit stirred up. I don't give a rats arse who walks out of their commencement ceremony or what their reason(s) might be. I don't care about the issues of any protest......not one bit. "I don't care about the issues of any protest......not one bit." Amen. I've been saying this for months....years. I think protests are a waste of time and effort. It might make you feel better but most of the time it is misplaced anger. Kinda like kicking your flat tire. You aren't made at the tire and all you did was hurt you own toe when you kicked it. Seems to me the only way to effect change is to vote and help people who are sympathetic to your cause to get elected. If all who po'd woman who marched with p-hats on had organized and volunteered their time and money they might could have got someone elected who would be more sympathetic to their cause. But to come back AFTER the election and pitch a hissy fit does nothing by make you look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies. The ridiculousness of the woman marches and p-hats is a case study in hypocrisy IMO. Same women supported hillary with unbridled passion. They hate Trump because he was talking shiite with Howard Stern. One incident, period. A movement is born and the narrative is set. Flip to hillary and consider how many women's lives were ruined by her ambition. Her serial sexual predator husband that she stood by for decades while he diddled his way through office. She actively engaged in either helping destroy or shut these women up when they surfaced, not because she loved the big lug himself, but because they were ultimately going to get in the way of her ambitions. I'm not defending Trump or his comments here, just pointing out that the facts clearly prove that Hillary has piled up some serious women's rights grievances. Possibly more if you consider that the facts prove these sexual attacks did occur and the Trump thing is hearsay; penetration or the suggestion of grabbing a vagina. Somewhere out the is a blue dress and cigar that supports my argument... Edited by mdg2003 2017-05-23 8:14 AM |
| 2017-05-23 1:09 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Regular 82 Northport, NY | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Let the investigation play out. Glad an independent counsel was created. There seems to be a lot of smoke - particularly around Flynn. At a minimum it looks like he lied when he was interviewed for his security clearance, a felony. |
| 2017-05-23 1:33 PM in reply to: jellyfish74 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by jellyfish74 Let the investigation play out. Glad an independent counsel was created. Me too, so that bastard can eventually learn that there is no way to make the left happy with anything right now.....they are butt hurt, and they ain't stopping. LOL |
| 2017-05-24 1:33 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Left Brain That's my rule with everyone. Cop pulls me over and asks me "do you know what I pulled you over for?" I'll just hand him driver's licence.Under the current climate....I would refuse to talk to that committee even if I did nothing. This entire "investigation" is unguided and without a target from what i can see. In that light, no way I would testify in front of it. I'd show up and plead the 5th to every question. If you think I'm guilty of something then charge me and I'll see you in court. You can take your committee and shove it. |
| 2017-05-24 1:57 PM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Hook'em Originally posted by Left Brain That's my rule with everyone. Cop pulls me over and asks me "do you know what I pulled you over for?" I'll just hand him driver's licence. Under the current climate....I would refuse to talk to that committee even if I did nothing. This entire "investigation" is unguided and without a target from what i can see. In that light, no way I would testify in front of it. I'd show up and plead the 5th to every question. If you think I'm guilty of something then charge me and I'll see you in court. You can take your committee and shove it. Good point! Reminds me of the story about the state trooper that was following this semi waiting for him to make a mistake. The driver was perfect and never went over the speed limit, never followed too closely, always signaled when changing lanes and was courteous to other driver. Finally the cop pulled him over and said, "I just want to comment you! You are the best driver ever. You don't speed, always signal and courteous to other drivers!" The truck driver says, "Well, when you're as drunk as I am and haul a load of marijuana, you got to be careful!" Steven Write said a cop pulled him over and asked why he was going so fast. Steven said, "I pushed my foot on the gas pedal....it sends more gas to the engine......." OK, one more joke... Cop pulls over Heisenberg and asked me if he know how fast he was going? Heisenberg says no but I know exactly where I am. If you understood that joke you are a physics geek! |
| 2017-05-26 11:44 AM in reply to: Oysterboy |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Oysterboy He's going to jail. Just a matter of time. I'm fine with letting the investigation play out. As for him going to jail, I would be betting that he won't because I've yet to see anything illegal be presented publicly. Obviously he could have done something illegal and then of course he would and should be punished for it. Unfortunately with the myriad of obvious fake news and leaks that keep coming out about "Russia" I'm starting to believe the whole thing is just a big ruse by the DNC to justify Hillary losing (and cover up the crimes they committed in the process). |
| 2017-05-26 9:05 PM in reply to: #5220922 |
| New user 175 | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena No one at that level goes to jail. Well, at least, very rarely. Keep hoping. |
| 2017-05-30 9:51 AM in reply to: goforit |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by goforit No one at that level goes to jail. Well, at least, very rarely. Keep hoping. Sadly, you are correct and it's one thing that's pretty even on both sides of the isle. |
| 2017-05-30 12:23 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Master 5557 , California | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by goforit No one at that level goes to jail. Well, at least, very rarely. Keep hoping. Sadly, you are correct and it's one thing that's pretty even on both sides of the isle. Scooter Libby was the last one I can remember. And for leaks, no less. But it was pretty clear he was taking the fall for someone above him. Edited by spudone 2017-05-30 12:24 PM |
| 2017-05-30 1:21 PM in reply to: spudone |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by goforit No one at that level goes to jail. Well, at least, very rarely. Keep hoping. Sadly, you are correct and it's one thing that's pretty even on both sides of the isle. Scooter Libby was the last one I can remember. And for leaks, no less. But it was pretty clear he was taking the fall for someone above him. I don't think Scooter even spent one night locked up before Bush commuted his sentence. |
| 2017-05-30 2:16 PM in reply to: spudone |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena What gets me is that nobody even tries and the reason is because the Fox is guarding the henhouse. With the DOJ and FBI reporting directly to the Executive office the likelihood of an investigation happening are next to zero. For example there were numerous things that Bush and Obama did that various pundits would state were illegal because of this law or that law or not getting congress involved. I'm not saying they broke the law, because they very well may not have but we will never know because there was never a due process even attempted. Supporters always say that if there was something wrong the FBI/DOJ would investigate it so their guy of course did no wrong. However, I think we can all agree there's no investigating going on. |
| 2017-05-30 2:26 PM in reply to: Bob Loblaw |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Bob Loblaw Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by goforit No one at that level goes to jail. Well, at least, very rarely. Keep hoping. Sadly, you are correct and it's one thing that's pretty even on both sides of the isle. Scooter Libby was the last one I can remember. And for leaks, no less. But it was pretty clear he was taking the fall for someone above him. I don't think Scooter even spent one night locked up before Bush commuted his sentence. IIRC a judge ordered him to start serving his sentence immediately and Bush commuted it at that moment. I think he was appealing his sentence or something and Bush was waiting until the end of term commutations or whatever and due to the judge moving the timetable up he immediately did it. Either way the premise is clear that he got the hook up. On a side note (and somewhat humorous) I saw a meme the other day of how Trump is unimpeachable. Congress impeaches Trump It's laughable but technically could happen in our current system. |
| 2017-05-30 3:14 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Bob Loblaw Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by goforit No one at that level goes to jail. Well, at least, very rarely. Keep hoping. Sadly, you are correct and it's one thing that's pretty even on both sides of the isle. Scooter Libby was the last one I can remember. And for leaks, no less. But it was pretty clear he was taking the fall for someone above him. I don't think Scooter even spent one night locked up before Bush commuted his sentence. IIRC a judge ordered him to start serving his sentence immediately and Bush commuted it at that moment. I think he was appealing his sentence or something and Bush was waiting until the end of term commutations or whatever and due to the judge moving the timetable up he immediately did it. Either way the premise is clear that he got the hook up. On a side note (and somewhat humorous) I saw a meme the other day of how Trump is unimpeachable. Congress impeaches Trump It's laughable but technically could happen in our current system. For the sake of argument.....and amusement..... Congress impeaches Trump Trump resigns. Pence becomes President Pence pardons Trump Pence appoints Trump as VP Pence resigns Trump becomes President Trump appoints Pence as VP. Congress again impeaches Trump since he resigned during impeachment proceeding Pence becomes President Pence again pardons Trump Pence appoints Trump as VP Pence resigns Trump is not eligible for a third term Pence rescinds his resignation and says "Just kidding fellers...." |
| 2017-05-30 4:33 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Article I, Section 3 gives the Senate the power to remove from office and disqualify to hold further office. Article II, Section 2 gives the President the power to grant reprieves and pardons, except in cases of Impeachment. Better come up with a better plan for getting an impeached President Trump back in the Oval.
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| 2017-05-30 5:33 PM in reply to: Hook'em |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Hook'em Article I, Section 3 gives the Senate the power to remove from office and disqualify to hold further office. Article II, Section 2 gives the President the power to grant reprieves and pardons, except in cases of Impeachment. Better come up with a better plan for getting an impeached President Trump back in the Oval.
Oh sure, drop a terd in the punchbowl. :-) Didn't Ford Pardon Nixon after he resigned under threat of impeachment? |
| 2017-05-30 10:39 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
| Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Rogillio Pardoned for the crimes not for impeachment.Originally posted by Hook'em Oh sure, drop a terd in the punchbowl. :-) Didn't Ford Pardon Nixon after he resigned under threat of impeachment? Article I, Section 3 gives the Senate the power to remove from office and disqualify to hold further office. Article II, Section 2 gives the President the power to grant reprieves and pardons, except in cases of Impeachment. Better come up with a better plan for getting an impeached President Trump back in the Oval.
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| 2017-05-31 9:18 AM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Rogillio Originally posted by Hook'em Oh sure, drop a terd in the punchbowl. :-) Didn't Ford Pardon Nixon after he resigned under threat of impeachment? Article I, Section 3 gives the Senate the power to remove from office and disqualify to hold further office. Article II, Section 2 gives the President the power to grant reprieves and pardons, except in cases of Impeachment. Better come up with a better plan for getting an impeached President Trump back in the Oval.
Yeah, what the heck? Now Drumpf will never serve out his 8 years... grrr |
| 2020-04-30 10:50 AM in reply to: Oysterboy |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Flynn won't comply with sobpoena Originally posted by Oysterboy He's going to jail. Just a matter of time. Fun to look back on some of these old threads....knowing what we know now. Looks like Flynn on only won’t be going to jail he will be totally exonerated. |
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