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2008-08-05 11:42 AM

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Anyone direct me to previous threads on diet coke/pepsi vs coke/pepsi debate? Read some interesting remarks on one recent thread that has me curious. There was a post wishing not to explore the thread again. Searched the forum, but found nothing. Many events serve sodas after the finish which I took as a good thing. Occationally drink a diet pepsi after a long run, but lately it doean't go down well.


2008-08-06 8:52 AM
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randym - 2008-08-05 11:42 AM Anyone direct me to previous threads on diet coke/pepsi vs coke/pepsi debate? Read some interesting remarks on one recent thread that has me curious. There was a post wishing not to explore the thread again. Searched the forum, but found nothing. Many events serve sodas after the finish which I took as a good thing. Occationally drink a diet pepsi after a long run, but lately it doean't go down well.

They serve coke because it has sugar and caffeine in it.  It serves the same general purpose as GU.

Try drinking it flat... it might sit in your tummy better.

2008-08-06 11:48 AM
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Sorry I don't have any studies handy, but here is what I believe.

Artificial sugars might be bad for you.

Drinking diet sodas just feeds your craving for sugar/sweets.

I think many obese people are sugar adicts.

Most overweight people drink tons of diet drinks.  Yes it is anecdotal, but it really turns me off.  Whenever I see diet drinks, I think of a fat person with a diet coke in their hand.  Hence, I have this imagery that really turns me off to diet drinks.  Show me an obese person who does not drink diet soda, and I will show you a person who is loosing weight.

While they might not be that bad for you, I dont think you will find anyone that says diet sodas are good for you.

2008-08-06 1:09 PM
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Winston63 - 2008-08-06 12:48 PM

Sorry I don't have any studies handy, but here is what I believe.

Artificial sugars might be bad for you.

Drinking diet sodas just feeds your craving for sugar/sweets.

I think many obese people are sugar adicts.

Most overweight people drink tons of diet drinks.  Yes it is anecdotal, but it really turns me off.  Whenever I see diet drinks, I think of a fat person with a diet coke in their hand.  Hence, I have this imagery that really turns me off to diet drinks.  Show me an obese person who does not drink diet soda, and I will show you a person who is loosing weight.

While they might not be that bad for you, I dont think you will find anyone that says diet sodas are good for you.

Where's my popcorn?

2008-08-06 1:11 PM
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Winston63- agree with two out of three of the statements... Artificial sweeteners may be bad for you (there's studies proving and other disproving this... you make up your mind what you believe...) and that drinking diet soda does indeed make you feel more hungry...

What I can't agree with is that obese people are sugar addicts... maybe that is the case for some, but that is true for some very fit people as well, and there might be other medical issues causing the problem.

I think that some people see the word "Diet" and think "weight loss"which obviously is not the same at all... better off with a nice, cold glass of water...
2008-08-06 1:19 PM
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Winston63 - 2008-08-06 11:48 AM

Sorry I don't have any studies handy, but here is what I believe.

Artificial sugars might be bad for you.

Drinking diet sodas just feeds your craving for sugar/sweets.

I think many obese people are sugar adicts.

Most overweight people drink tons of diet drinks.  Yes it is anecdotal, but it really turns me off.  Whenever I see diet drinks, I think of a fat person with a diet coke in their hand.  Hence, I have this imagery that really turns me off to diet drinks.  Show me an obese person who does not drink diet soda, and I will show you a person who is loosing weight.

While they might not be that bad for you, I dont think you will find anyone that says diet sodas are good for you.

Are you saying that they are fat because they drink diet soda?

 



2008-08-06 4:09 PM
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2008-08-06 4:51 PM
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ditchdoc - 2008-08-06 4:09 PM ,

ditto.. I've been waiting all afternoon for this one to explode

2008-08-06 5:04 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-08-06 11:09 AM

Winston63 - 2008-08-06 12:48 PM

Sorry I don't have any studies handy, but here is what I believe.

Artificial sugars might be bad for you.

Drinking diet sodas just feeds your craving for sugar/sweets.

I think many obese people are sugar adicts.

Most overweight people drink tons of diet drinks.  Yes it is anecdotal, but it really turns me off.  Whenever I see diet drinks, I think of a fat person with a diet coke in their hand.  Hence, I have this imagery that really turns me off to diet drinks.  Show me an obese person who does not drink diet soda, and I will show you a person who is loosing weight.

While they might not be that bad for you, I dont think you will find anyone that says diet sodas are good for you.

Where's my popcorn?



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2008-08-06 5:22 PM
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Won't be much of a show on my end.  People are free to believe whatever they want whether or not it's based in reality.  All I try to do is give people information that's backed up by something objective when possible.
2008-08-06 6:01 PM
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It's better to drink the sugar.a lot of thin people drink diet soda as well.its alway funny when you go to a fast food place and the guy in front of you orders a diet coke and two bigmacs and large fry.i like water after a workout or gatorade which has the sugar .

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2008-08-10 5:06 PM
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I drink about 5 liters of diet dew a day and I weigh 148 at about 5% bodyfat. i dew wish I could cut them out but no luck so far. I wonder if they make a patch or something.
2008-08-10 6:37 PM
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G40 - 2008-08-06 5:01 PM It's better to drink the sugar.a lot of thin people drink diet soda as well.its alway funny when you go to a fast food place and the guy in front of you orders a diet coke and two bigmacs and large fry.i like water after a workout or gatorade which has the sugar .

2 bigmacs and a large fry is maybe 1200 calories.   Add the jumbo regular Coke and it is closer to 1500.  So Why is it better to drink the sugar? In theory you just saved enough calories to have second burger for "free".   Seems like a big way to save calories to me. 

Maybe you should ask yourself why you are in line at fast food places before you critique the diet habits of others.  

 I agree with the above comment.  Diet Soda has not proven to cause major health problems, but that doesn't make it good for you. 

 

2008-08-10 8:39 PM
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It really can't be good for you, I don't think there is one natural ingredient in it.
2008-08-11 12:39 PM
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What about 0 cal for a big glass of water... now that is saving some serious calories for you and it proven GOOD for you as well!!!!
2008-08-12 9:40 AM
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G40 - 2008-08-06 5:01 PM It's better to drink the sugar.a lot of thin people drink diet soda as well.its alway funny when you go to a fast food place and the guy in front of you orders a diet coke and two bigmacs and large fry.i like water after a workout or gatorade which has the sugar .

2 bigmacs and a large fry is maybe 1200 calories.   Add the jumbo regular Coke and it is closer to 1500.  So Why is it better to drink the sugar? In theory you just saved enough calories to have second burger for "free".   Seems like a big way to save calories to me. 

Maybe you should ask yourself why you are in line at fast food places before you critique the diet habits of others.  

 I agree with the above comment.  Diet Soda has not proven to cause major health problems, but that doesn't make it good for you. 

 




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2008-08-12 5:16 PM
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Well I did not get any wild rants against me?!?!

I don't think that diet sodas make you fat, I just think that putting too much sweet tasting stuff into your body is not good.  I think there are all kinds of addictions.  People can be addicted to sugar too.  Artificially sweetened drinks/food feed the addiction just as well as naturally sweetened food.  Replacing five regular cokes a day with five diet cokes a day does not solve the problem.

Most overweight people really, really like sweets.  The easiest way for them to get their fix is with soda.

Yea, most of my opinion I pulled out of my a$$, but it is also based on some studies regarding cravings for sugar/artificial sweeteners.

What fun is a forum if you cant throw out some controversial opinions now and then.

2008-08-12 5:19 PM
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Mad Lt. - 2008-08-10 3:06 PM I drink about 5 liters of diet dew a day and I weigh 148 at about 5% bodyfat. i dew wish I could cut them out but no luck so far. I wonder if they make a patch or something.

I would say you are clearly addicted to sweets.  You are also clearly not overweight.  But my hypothesis is that overweight people are addicted to sweets, not that diet drinks make you overweight.

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triOK - 2008-08-06 11:19 AM

Are you saying that they are fat because they drink diet soda?

 

 No. I think many obese people are addicted to sweets, and drinking diet soda does not address their sweet addiction.

2008-08-12 5:25 PM
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Winston63 - 2008-08-12 5:16 PM

Well I did not get any wild rants against me?!?!

I don't think that diet sodas make you fat, I just think that putting too much sweet tasting stuff into your body is not good.  I think there are all kinds of addictions.  People can be addicted to sugar too.  Artificially sweetened drinks/food feed the addiction just as well as naturally sweetened food.  Replacing five regular cokes a day with five diet cokes a day does not solve the problem.

Most overweight people really, really like sweets.  The easiest way for them to get their fix is with soda.

Yea, most of my opinion I pulled out of my a$$, but it is also based on some studies regarding cravings for sugar/artificial sweeteners.

What fun is a forum if you cant throw out some controversial opinions now and then.

Sorta explains why you haven't gotten a ranting response from me. 

2008-08-12 5:37 PM
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DerekL - 2008-08-12 3:25 PM
Winston63 - 2008-08-12 5:16 PM

...Yea, most of my opinion I pulled out of my a$$, but it is also based on some studies regarding cravings for sugar/artificial sweeteners...

Sorta explains why you haven't gotten a ranting response from me. 

Well, most ideas for scientific studies come from anecdotal observations.  Then you design a study to test whether or not your theory is true.  So, essentially, someone pulls an idea out of their a$$, then they do a study to test the validity.  No?



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Winston63 - 2008-08-12 5:37 PM
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Winston63 - 2008-08-12 5:16 PM

...Yea, most of my opinion I pulled out of my a$$, but it is also based on some studies regarding cravings for sugar/artificial sweeteners...

Sorta explains why you haven't gotten a ranting response from me. 

Well, most ideas for scientific studies come from anecdotal observations.  Then you design a study to test whether or not your theory is true.  So, essentially, someone pulls an idea out of their a$$, then they do a study to test the validity.  No?

Uhhhhh.....sorta.  More or less.

Not really. 

2008-08-13 5:50 AM
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Sorry if i offended any one with my post,but after reading studys not good.i went to www.mercola .com and a looked up aspertame on his site ,you would be amazed.
2008-08-13 6:11 AM
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G40 - 2008-08-13 5:50 AM Sorry if i offended any one with my post,but after reading studys not good.i went to www.mercola .com and a looked up aspertame on his site ,you would be amazed.

You should try going to an unbiased site that's actually based on real evidence.  Mercola is a quack among quacks.

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Winston63 - 2008-08-12 6:16 PM

Replacing five regular cokes a day with five diet cokes a day does not solve the problem


Maybe it doesn't "solve the problem." But it does save the person 1000 calories.

Seems many people are addicted, as you put it, to things other than sweets. Chips, for instance, or fast food. Could be anything.

In any event, 5 diet cokes are still 1000 or more calories better than 5 cokes.
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