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Subject: Base Training?

New here and really need some advice.  First, some bacground. I haven't competed in four years.  I have been running about 3 days a week 3-5 miles on avg for those four years between deployments. Prior to the last four years, I was doing about four sprints and 1-2 olympic tri's each season and was training for an iron man as well as numerous 5 and 10K's.  I have started a 4 week base training phase to begin training for an olympic tri in early Oct.  For the last week I have been running with my heart rate below 150bpm for about an hour or longer. 1 day of slow intervals140-155 bpm, a few days of 140 bpm for 1 hour etc. HERE IS MY PROBLEM. I ran today for 1 hour at 150 bpm. I went 5 miles. That is a 12:00 mile. I have to run that slow to keep my heart rate below 150.  For the days when I stay below 140, it's almost walking. A VERY slow shuffle.  I am making sure to maximize steps per min(84-92) as well.  I can do 5 miles easily with my heart rate at about 185 the entire way. If I do a normal casual run, about a 9:00 mile, my heart rate is around 189 or so. It is not un-heard of to reach 190.  What is the deal?  Is 3-4 weeks of base going to make a difference at all? I welcome all comments, any points of vew etc.

Thanks in advance!



2009-07-19 11:12 PM
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What are you basing your HR zones? Are you using the time trial LT method? Some other method. I'd recommend going out and doing a time trial and creating a new HR zone. If you are running comfortably 5 miles with an HR of 189 your zone 2 run will be at a much higher HR than 140-155.

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=25733&posts=412&start=1

 



Edited by yojimbo 2009-07-19 11:31 PM
2009-07-20 12:10 AM
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I just got a new HRM (my old one died a couple years ago and I finally scrapped up the cash to replace it), so I'm relearning zones. I'm not at the point where I can do a field test, and I have absolutely no money for lab tests.

So, entirely unscientifically, I went by RPE. I've been running pretty consistently for about two years. I know by now what is relatively easy, what is middle of the road pushing but not hard, and what is all out. When I go out for my easy runs, my HR is still easily hitting high 170s. Middle ground is mid-180s. I figure, it is all so personal that I'm not going to worry beyond that. Right now, I'm still training mostly on RPE, and just looking at my HR to see what happens. If you are as used to running as you are, maybe that would work for you.

Also, I found the ultra-slow runs hurt MORE, so I quit doing them. Maybe they work for other people, but I run/walk, and going any slower than I already do was killing the body and psyche.
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