Subject: RE: 2017 Argon 18 E-80 or 2015 Orbea Ordu M30 | 105? I was wavering between the exact same two bikes. Well, actually a new-old-stock 2014 Argon 18 E80 (which is essentially the same as a 2017 ) and a very-slightly-used 2015 Ordu M30. I have an aluminum road bike that can be quite "buzzy" on the chip seal roads that are prevalent around here. While the aluminum Argon may or may not be the same way, I opted to poney up the little extra money for the Orbea, thinking I had a better chance for a good ride from a full carbon platform. While I never got to ride the Argon, I have no regrets with my decision. The Ordu has been great. It's smooth, fast, easy to wrench on (except the seat mount is a little fiddly ), and gets a ton of compliments. It looks a lot more expensive than it really is. Edited by gary p 2017-06-16 6:58 PM
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