Secret Society

Secret Society is a silly thing to call it.......but I'll say this again so you can see it when it comes.  Anybody who doesn't think Comey (and the FBI) wasn't acting weird in the weeks leading up to the election wasn't paying attention.  Comey will break....watch and see.

The Lone Ranger is the only person you can truly trust.

This is what he testified under oath. “I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. That includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”

Coached response.......Comey has the key to this entire deal.

But going back to Oysterboy's point, there was an FBI investigation looking for a connection between the Trump campaign and Russia going as far back as the summer of '16, but it was never leaked and the public didn't find out until well after the election. The FBI had the Trump/Russia dossier before the election, but the public didn't get to see if until well after the election. Meanwhile, the FBI very publicly re-opened their Hillary email investigation two weeks before the election. There was the official twitter account of the FBI records vault that hadn't tweeted a single thing in over a year, then the week before the election started tweeting out links to old case files about Vince Foster, Marc Rich, and their previous investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

The notion that the FBI was working to get Hillary elected is ridiculous. Maybe they've been working their arses off since the election to find a way to get Trump removed, I have no idea. I'm content to wait and see how Mueller concludes his investigation. But if the FBI was actually trying to make HRC the next POTUS, they could not have done a worse job. No government agency is that incompetent. 

I'm gone for a day and you guys are fully engaged in one of my right wing tinfoil hat conspiracies.  I have tears, I'm so proud.  :-D

Apparently Kerry was in on it.  Why would he believe the Pres would be gone in a year?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/25/john-kerry-reportedly-coaches-palestinians-not-to-yield-to-trump-in-peace-talks-spurring-backlash.html

It's not incompetency, it's cover your azz-ency.  I think the only way to explain the weirdness from Comey during the run-up to the election (she's under more investigation, she's not under more investigation) is because the FBI wanted to cover their collective arses when information about Clinton, Obama, and the DNC mucking with the election finally came out.  NO WAY IN HELL ANYONE THOUGHT TRUMP WOULD WIN......including Trump. 

The only thing govt. agencies are REALLY good at it covering for themselves....and that's what the FBI has been doing since this all started.  Now they've lost text messages......that's strong work. LOL

That seems plausible, and wouldn't surprise me one bit if that's the whole truth of it. But the idea that the FBI was actively trying to help get Hillary elected doesn't add up. Not with what they made public vs. what they kept to themselves. 

I agree with that.  I don't see how anybody could think she needed help.  It appeared to be a slam dunk.  I think they were just creating some distance in case anything came to light.  That's going to bite them now, but not too much.  Who's gonna cry foul?  The guy who got elected?  This is more media sensationalism in my mind.  Some teeth will be gnashed, a few heads will roll from an agency or two, nobody will actually go to prison, and we can chalk up another 10's of millions of dollars in wasted time.  Your govt. at it's finest.

I can't really say why, but I have complete trust in Mueller and his investigation. Everything both parties were saying about him when he was first named to the investigation (as opposed to what they say now, lol), the guy is meticulous and thorough and the right man for the job. So when this is all wrapped up and he comes out with his evidence and findings, I would hope that that vast majority of Americans will look at it with an open mind regardless of partisan politics. If for example Trump worked with Putin to get elected in exchange for dropping sanctions, then Trump needs to go to jail for a long time. If Hillary worked with Putin in exchange for millions of dollars donated to the Clinton Foundation, then Hillary needs to go to jail for a long time. If Russia acted on their own to try and divide us as a nation, people need to accept that as well and move on. As long as Mueller bring cold, hard evidence to the table and not just a couple of people's testimony who are trying to save their own arse, the country needs to come together and accept the results. 

Depending on what he finds, there will be people on the far left or far right who refuse to accept the results. FoxNews and MSNBC/CNN will pander to those extremes and report on whatever they think will get them the highest ratings. Twitter and Reddit will go off on deep state conspiracy theories. But I have to believe that most of us will put country before party politics and come down hard on anyone that would collude with Russia (again, presuming there's indisputable evidence). 

Now the Congressional investigations, those are straight up witch hunts. Republicans desperate to find anything they can lock up Hillary with and Democrats desperate to find something they can impeach Trump with. 

I was kind of in the same boat because he really didn't seem like he was doing anything blatantly partisan.  However, the more I find out about the kinds of people he hired the more my confidence is waning. 
I mean, he literally hired people and put them in charge of investigations who were trying to overthrow the President of the United States.  Mueller is either incredibly naive or incredibly trusting, but it just doesn't make sense to me.

I honestly believe that we're just hitting the tip of the ice berg.  Every week the "swamp" gets exposed a little bit more and I truthfully cannot believe the level of crap that's been coming to light.  I'm looking forward to "The memo" being released soon. 

Are you referring to the memo Republicans wrote to discredit Mueller's investigation or the memo Democrats wrote to discredit the memo Republicans wrote to discredit the Mueller investigation? Like I said, the Congressional investigation is a complete partisan joke.

Facts and evidence is all I care about. And none of us, including FoxNews, Breitbart, CNN, Vox, or HuffPo (and especially Reddit & Twitter) have any idea what Mueller is sitting on. I have my guesses as to what he'll find, but it's irrelevant because it's pure speculation. So I am perfectly content to wait for the man to complete his investigation and report to the country his findings. If he's got something on Trump (or Hillary), then lock him (or her) up. If he's got nothing, we all need to move on. Which won't be hard to do because the media and social media have the attention span of a goldfish.