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2009-07-14 8:28 AM

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Subject: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
I've been biking in my running sneakers, and while I know it isn't the most efficient way, the soles of my running sneakers always gripped the pedals well.  Until my first race this weekend.  The final 1/10th mile of the first run (it was a du) and transition were on a grassy area.  It had rained hard the night before and the grassy area was still damp.  By the time I finished the run and got through transition onto my bike, I could barely keep my feet on the pedals b/c the soles of my sneakers were wet.  That lasted for about the first 3-4 miles of the bike before my shoes dried out. 

I was thinking I'd get a pair of clipless shoes/set of new pedals over the winter, but now I'm thinking maybe I should do that now and start getting used to them with hopes that I could use them for a September race. 

What is the learning curve?  If I bought shoes/pedals and started using them right after my next race on 8/2, would I be experienced enough to race with them w/in 4-6 weeks? 

Also, what should I be looking for in pedals & shoes?  I don't want to spend a boatload of cash, but I'd like to have a set that could move with me to a better bike if I upgrade from my very basic/low-end road bike in a year or two. 

Suggestions, tips, words of warning are all welcome...


2009-07-14 1:01 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
I would go clipless as soon as possible.  As far as efficiency goes, 25% to 35% of a pedal stroke is wasted without clipless pedals.  You will find that it will probably only take you a few rides to really start to like clipless.  I have been using them ever since I bought my first bike a year ago.  The tricky thing is slowing down to a busy intersection with traffic lights.   First, drop your gear really low as you are slowing down.  Second, unclip one of your feet as you begin to stop.  Lean to the side of your body where the foot is unclipped.  Wait for the light.  Step down on your pedal to accelerate and then clip your other foot into its respective pedal.  Sometimes when you miss the clip in the first few times, you may need to pedal with one foot for a few revolutions.  This still happens to me occasionally.  Especially when it is raining and my shoes and pedals are slippery.  Other than that, go for it!  You won't be sorry.
2009-07-14 1:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
If you are coordinated...it takes all of one ride to get used to. 

If you are uncoordinated like my wife, you can't get out of the driveway and dump the bike on my dura ace rear derailleur costing me $130 for a new one. 

Really it just take a little practice to get in and a conscious effort to remember to clip out at the stop sign/red light BEFORE your bike stops. 

I have finicky knees so I went the route of Speedplay pedals.  They allow a great deal of float (20 degrees) so they work great for my knees (and they are very light).  Love em.

2009-07-14 1:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
i would look at the speedplay because dual sided entry therefore easier for beginners. Of note the cleats are more expensive than the look pedals but last longer.

I started out with the look and then converted over to speedplay.


And practice clipping in and out before you hit the road because I have seen way to many bikers come to a stop and forget to unclip and fall over.
2009-07-14 2:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?

It's pretty easy to get used to, shouldn't take more than a couple of rides.  Recommended routine:

  1. Stand over the bike and practice clipping in and clipping out one foot at a time while stationary.  If it seems difficult to unclip, most pedals have a tension adjustment that you can loosen.  You shouldn't have to crank your leg too awfully hard to get the cleat to disengage.
  2. Practice riding with just one cycling shoe.  Wear a sneaker on the other foot, as the soles of cycling shoes can be very slippery and hard to pedal in if you're not clipped in.  Practice clipping in and out a few times, then switch feet.
  3. Practice riding with both feet clipped in.  Start with fairly short rides over familiar routes, and remind yourself at every stop to clip out.  Start out by clipping out very early, with both feet.
  4. Figure out which way you usually lean when you stop, and practice clipping out just that foot when stopping.

If you can do all that, you're pretty much there.  I'm still very conservative about clipping out--if there's any chance I'm going to have to dab a foot (pedestrian traffic, busy parking lots, sharp turns, crossing street, etc.) I'll clip out at least one foot.

I also put some nonskid tape on the bottom of my cycling shoes, so it's not quite so slippery.

 

 

2009-07-15 10:52 AM
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Great, thanks for the tips!


2009-07-15 12:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
bgraboski - 2009-07-14 1:04 PM If you are coordinated...it takes all of one ride to get used to. 

If you are uncoordinated like my wife, you can't get out of the driveway and dump the bike on my dura ace rear derailleur costing me $130 for a new one. 




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2009-07-15 5:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
The first thing you should be looking for, after buying your pedals, is a doorway in you home to practice clipping and unclipping.  I put my bike in a doorway and took a couple books and put them in front and behind my rear wheel and started clipping in and out.  That way, if you start to fall you will stop when your shoulder hits the door frame and not when you hit the floor and you can hold on if you need to.  Once you get the idea and the feel of getting into and out of the clips then take it outside.  Like someone said, if you have any athletic ability, you shouldn't have any trouble. 

2009-07-15 9:19 PM
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X10 on the Speedplay pedals!  I bought my first bike last summer and started w/them right off the bat.  It didn't take long at all to get the hang of it.  Also, X2 on practicing in a doorway, although, my first time outside, I still unclipped the left foot and leaned to the right!  Doah!  Must have looked pretty funny.  BUT, I only did that once.
2009-07-16 11:31 PM
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olliedawg - 2009-07-15 3:43 PM The first thing you should be looking for, after buying your pedals, is a doorway in you home to practice clipping and unclipping.  I put my bike in a doorway and took a couple books and put them in front and behind my rear wheel and started clipping in and out.  That way, if you start to fall you will stop when your shoulder hits the door frame and not when you hit the floor and you can hold on if you need to.  Once you get the idea and the feel of getting into and out of the clips then take it outside.  Like someone said, if you have any athletic ability, you shouldn't have any trouble. 

Understand, though, that you will have a stupid, slow-speed fall due to failure to unclip.  Every single person using clipless pedals has a story... 

2009-07-17 3:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
tjh - 2009-07-14 2:43 PM

I also put some nonskid tape on the bottom of my cycling shoes, so it's not quite so slippery.



I think I need to do this.  My Time cleats are supposed to be "non-slip"...YEAH, RIGHT!  What kind of non-skid tape are you using on your shoes? 


2009-07-17 8:44 PM
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I got it at the hardware store--they have it on rolls and sell it by the foot.  It's the kind of stuff that you put on stair treads and stuff.  Bathtub nonskid stickers would probably also work.  6 inches (about 2 inches wide) was plenty to do both shoes.  I cut it to shape a bit so it didn't overlap the sole, and covered from just behind the cleat to the raised area at the heel.

It does get kind of scarred up from the pedal and should probably be replaced periodically, but it's cheap and easy to do.

2009-07-17 10:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?
cxk9758 - 2009-07-14 1:04 PM i would look at the speedplay because dual sided entry therefore easier for beginners. Of note the cleats are more expensive than the look pedals but last longer. I started out with the look and then converted over to speedplay. And practice clipping in and out before you hit the road because I have seen way to many bikers come to a stop and forget to unclip and fall over.


x2  You will fall, just hope nobody sees you.
2009-07-21 8:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?

I stopped by the LBS on Sunday and got a pair of Louis Garneau Carbon Air shoes and some Look Keo Classic pedals.  That was more expensive than I intended...so much for my "cheap" bike. 

Anyhow, I was talking to a local roadie last week, and he said I could definitely put them on after 8/2 and race w/ them in September.  The LBS guy said he sees no reason why I can't put them on now and race w/ them on 8/2.  Hmmm....

B/w now and my 8/2 race I'll be: riding the course tomorrow night, doing one more hard ride over the weekend, and going out once or twice next week for easy rides.  (And, if I put them on today, tooling around my neighborhood tonight.)

What do you think?  Put them on and give it a try for 8/2?  I guess I can always switch the pedals back if I'm not comfortable by next weekend, right?



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2009-07-21 9:29 PM
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Yeah, I don't have a lawn, I'm in the city.  My 1st clipless fall will be on asphalt and witnessed by at least several people!


2009-07-23 9:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?

I put my pedals on yesterday!

First I put my bike in a doorway, held onto the door jambs and spent a few minutes getting the feel for how to clip in and out.  Then I progressed to going up and down my street, stopping and clipping out each time I got to the end of the block. 

I was about to move on to taking a quick cruise around the neighborhood when I had my fall.  It is a tough stop sign b/c it is hard to see oncoming traffic, which does not stop.  I stopped, clipped out, then decided to go, clipped back in, then changed my mind about continuing to go b/c I saw a car approaching, didn't have time to clip out b/c I was barely moving since I had just clipped in, and toppled over. 

I got my first little patch of road rash on my knee...only about 2 inches in diameter.  I'm a little pround of it, actually!  But man did it hurt trying to clean it out!

I did a few laps around the neighborhood, and went off to do a real ride.  I only had one other close call w/ falling when I dropped my chain and was concentrating on that so much I forgot to lean in the right direction when stopping...I saved it though!

The only thing I'm having a little trouble with is clipping my foot back in after a stop...which is kind of a pain b/c to get to where I ride, I have to ride through about 2 miles of stoplights on nearly every block.  For a race, though, I'll be totally fine, b/c I won't have to clip in and out constantly. 

I'm so glad I went ahead and put them on now instead of after this next race!

2009-07-23 1:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Time for me to go clipless...what to look for?

One thing that helps me at stops signs is to unclip the back of one pedal before I get to the stop sign but keep the front still engaged. If you have to stop just pull your foot out. If you don't just clip back in on the push down. Haven't fell yet. "Knock on wood"

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