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2010-04-29 7:19 AM

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Subject: A High Elbow Catch Drill

I just stumbled upon a high elbow catch drill from goswim.tv:

http://www.goswim.tv/entries/5906/freestyle---high-elbow-catch.html

 

Try as I might I cannot turn my elbow when I'm not pressing to something with my palm. Any ideas about this drill?



2010-04-29 2:52 PM
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RogerWilco - 2010-04-29 6:19 AM

I just stumbled upon a high elbow catch drill from goswim.tv:

http://www.goswim.tv/entries/5906/freestyle---high-elbow-catch.html

 

Try as I might I cannot turn my elbow when I'm not pressing to something with my palm. Any ideas about this drill?



Try it this way. First hold your arm across the front of your chest/stomach as if it's resting in an arm sling with your elbow bent at 90 degrees. Now keeping your elbow bent 90 degrees raise your arm so your upper arm is pointing straight ahead, elbow bent 90 degrees and forearm parallel with the ground.

Look at where your elbow is pointing.

now straighten your elbow without rotating your upper arm at all...that should be the same position as the finish of the drill you just linked to.
2010-04-30 1:20 AM
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AdventureBear - 2010-04-29 10:52 PM  Try it this way. First hold your arm across the front of your chest/stomach as if it's resting in an arm sling with your elbow bent at 90 degrees. Now keeping your elbow bent 90 degrees raise your arm so your upper arm is pointing straight ahead, elbow bent 90 degrees and forearm parallel with the ground. Look at where your elbow is pointing. now straighten your elbow without rotating your upper arm at all...that should be the same position as the finish of the drill you just linked to.

Thanks for the pointer. But this morning I tried it at the pool (before reading your post) I really could not do the bending the elbow that early. I'm curious if this is standard swimming style (which it says it is in the comments section of the drill)?

2010-04-30 9:29 AM
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Subject: RE: A High Elbow Catch Drill
RogerWilco - 2010-04-29 11:20 PM

Thanks for the pointer. But this morning I tried it at the pool (before reading your post) I really could not do the bending the elbow that early. I'm curious if this is standard swimming style (which it says it is in the comments section of the drill)?



Yes you always want your elbow to be up when you start your pull. 
2010-04-30 9:36 AM
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jskroch - 2010-04-30 5:29 PM

Yes you always want your elbow to be up when you start your pull.

So that means any good swimmer can do the "elbow turn" shown in the drill. Great! Am I the only one who cannot do this? I need a drill to do the drill, I will try Suzanne's pointer. Maybe that way I will be able to bend my elbow.

2010-04-30 5:10 PM
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Subject: RE: A High Elbow Catch Drill
RogerWilco - 2010-04-30 8:36 AM

jskroch - 2010-04-30 5:29 PM

Yes you always want your elbow to be up when you start your pull.

So that means any good swimmer can do the "elbow turn" shown in the drill. Great! Am I the only one who cannot do this? I need a drill to do the drill, I will try Suzanne's pointer. Maybe that way I will be able to bend my elbow.




Yes it's physically possible for anyone to get their elbow in this position...it's just a matter of doing so at while the upper arm is also fully extended and adducted (basically above your head). A gently roll and a wider recover swing allow you to get the desired "elbow position" with less stress on your shoulder joint than a flat swim with a reach straight in front of your body.

Try what I described...I also describe a different visualization in a thread close to here where hte fellow posted 2 swim videos. Read that one too.

Edited by AdventureBear 2010-04-30 5:28 PM


2010-04-30 5:25 PM
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I often times tell my swimmer to push there ear down with there bicep. If you push your ear down with your bicep and look at your palm, that gets you started in the right position. Often times people start there stroke that way then extend there hand to far in front, and then drop the elbow which is something you do not want to do.  Good swimmers generate most of their propulsion from the back half of their stroke.  Does that make sense?
2010-04-30 7:59 PM
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Subject: RE: A High Elbow Catch Drill
here's a slightly different approach that helped me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZXX9XHx0mM
 
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