Innocent until accused

Sooo, whats your point?  Mitch McConnel says he thinks he is guilty.  He isn't being thrown in prison or out of the election.  The people have the right to vote for him if they wish.

I don't know about the 70 year old Moore, but the 30something Moore dated high school girls (16 year olds).......admitted by him.  He's weird, even if he's not guilty of anything that was illegal. 

I'll go with guilty.......and keep him out of the Senate.  We're not losing anything by not letting that goof be a Senator.

I never understand the folks who don't reveal they were abused until 10,20,30, or in this case, 40 years later......but I never walked in those shoes, so I don't judge it since it's very common.

I've talked to women about things like this, and what they usually tell me is its a combination of fear, self blame, and the (often correct) belief that no one will believe them and they will be scorned. Which i would like to point out is what Rogillio is doing.  The "me too" movement has emboldened millions of women to come forward about the abuse they have suffered.

I don't know how many victims of childhood abuse I have talked to.....abused by Priests, teachers, neighbors, parents....men and women.  I would say the only thing they have in common is that they aren't lying.

I still don't get it.......I would think i would have shouted it from the rooftop (or at least gone back and slashed their tires, broke their windows, and set their houses on fire) but I also know, without a doubt, that victims are chosen for a variety of reasons of vulnerability...so there is that.  Again, I don't judge, I've never been in those shoes.

Judging from the election...........about 50/50.

Maybe a better place to start would be voting for someone who respects the Constitution.

Seeing as how he was a state judge (I think?), and not federal, I could almost buy that argument.  But if you want to get into constitutional issues, we're talking about two things here: the 1st amendment's establishment clause:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

and the supremacy clause (Article 6 clause 2):This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

But I even looked in the Alabama state constitution and it outright says that it still abides by the 1st amendment / establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution.  Maybe putting his religion above the law got him some support, but he was removed from the bench twice for a reason.  State law doesn't override the U.S. Constitution.

So in that sense, I understand the voters who want him in the Senate.  If people feel "trampled on" by the feds, it's a representative government, so they're trying to elect someone who will represent what they want.  I get it.  Senators swear an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.  If Roy Moore wants to start a movement to get it amended, more power to him.  But I think he has shown that he would rather disregard the rule of law when it comes to religion.

Edited for formatting.

Rog - don't ya'll have anybody down that way,  who didn't date high school girls when they were in their mid 30's, that can get elected as a Republican?  I wouldn't vote for that weird bastard under any circumstances.

Well if you're looking for someone who didn't date 16 year olds when he was in his 30's (not an accusation.....admitted by Moore).......I'll make it easy on you and send you my address. 

I don't care if he assaulted anyone or not.....we've got enough weird azzholes running this country.  Why add another?

At some point, always, I don't give up principles for politics.  As the father of 4 daughters, I'm at that point on this issue.

Oh, and I fixed it for you.

Seriously dude, if a 32 year old man slept with your 16 year old daughter, you'd still vote for him because you want the republicans to be in control... I see what conservative values are.

One of the girls in this case was 14, let's not forget.

I suppose "dated younger women" is one way to put it.

From yesterday's news conference with a fifth victim to speak out:
“I tried fighting him off, while yelling at him to stop, but instead of stopping, he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head onto his crotch” 

No thanks.

To your point about finding it suspicious that women are only now accusing him, look around you at the "me too" movement. Yea, there are reasons why a woman who was sexually assaulted wouldn't want to speak up, and there is a huge shift to empower women to stand up against those sexual predators. I don't find it suspicious at all that his victims would pick now as a time to point out what an arsehole he is. Again, from the news conference yesterday:

"Mr. Moore warned her that “no one will believe you” if she told anyone about the encounter in his car."

These are children for christ's sake. Men like him do not deserve to be in positions of power.