Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

Champion

10742

Ames, IA

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

wgraves7582 - 2009-11-25 7:04 AM So speaking about tomorrow - last night after my workout I took the wife and son for ice cream (I just had chocolate milk

) and my son was talking about how he never feels stuffed after eating anymore and that he got hungry earlier again.

I told him I never feel stuffed except 2 days a year - Thanksgiving and Christmas.

So do you eat until you are stuffed generally? QOD!

I generally do not eat until I'm stuffed, mainly because I know how miserable I am when I get to that point. I eat small, frequent meals and snack constantly throughout the day.

Like you, Bill, I will make exceptions for the holidays

My Race Log

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

Morning Ghoulies! I am off work today.

Going to run a few errands this morning and then get a swim in before picking up various arrivals at the train station.

My Race Log

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

iowagander - 2009-11-25 1:17 AM

aspeelma - 2009-11-24 6:50 AM Who wants to come run a half marathon with Kim and I in NJ in April?

Come on, you know you want to!!!

Actually, there's a chance I'll be spending a couple months in Rhode Island starting in March, so.... maybe???

OK, let's make it a Ghoulie HM weekend!

My Race Log

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

iowagander - 2009-11-25 1:58 AM

givemashot - 2009-11-24 6:35 PM Hmmm. Did somebody say "fall half marathon"???

Check this out. It's a popular one...

www.moabhalfmarathon.org/other/other_register.html

Holy cow Amy! That course looks GORGEOUS!

WOW! Much prettier than any races out here.

My Race Log

Subject: ...

This user's post has been ignored.

Subject: ...

This user's post has been ignored.

Subject: ...

This user's post has been ignored.

(Moab, UT 009-com.jpg)

Attachments
----------------
Moab, UT 009-com.jpg (51KB - 3 downloads)

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

aspeelma - 2009-11-25 6:23 AM

kcarroll - 2009-11-24 8:44 PM

aspeelma - 2009-11-24 4:26 PM Ghoulies something is wrong.My knee has been stiff since Sunday. I could feel it doing some popping when I was running then, but it never really hurt. It hasn't hurt since then it has just sort of been stiff. I head out for my 5 mile run this afternoon, I live on a hill, so I start running down hill and I can feel a popping again at the top of my knee cap, but this time it hurts. I couldn't run very far, I turned around and walked home. I already have a doctor appt scheduled for Dec. 2, I doubt I could get in before that. I have a HM on January 17th this is no time to be injured.Right now I'm sitting in my recliner with it propped up and with ice on it.

Ann, so sorry to read this. Ice and rest are your friends. Your description sounds so familiar. Keeping toes and fingers crossed for a quick recovery. FYI, when you get to the point of running again, avoid hills for a while.

It sounds like you may have some knowledge of this.

I live on hill, there are hills all around.

I could drive a few miles to a park that is mostly flat. That may not be a bad idea anyway. I generally run on the road, the trail would be softer and hopefully more forgiving.

I have patella-femoral syndrome, aka chrondomylacia or "runner's knee." It is caused by a number of factors, the main one being lack of strength in the quads and tight hamstrings. Being female doesn't help. There is what is referred to as a "Q angle" which is the angle of the femur at the knee joint. Because women have wider pelvises there is more of an angle which creates more stress on the joint. Initially rest and ice are your friend. Mine flares up a couple times a year....the most recent being last month which is why I couldn't do my HM last weekend. My recovery routine is as follows: Once pain free, easy biking for a week. When ready to run, go for the treadmill or trail for the first couple weeks. My biggest mistake is I don't strength train. That's why the "disdain" challenge was perfect. I've been doing my PT and really think it helps.

That may be more than you want to know and hopefully you just had an off day. But if it is "runner's knee" then prevention is your best strategy. Strengthen the quads, stretch the hamstrings, and go slow when ramping up mileage. Good advice that I don't always follow but should.

My Race Log

Champion

6225

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

MORNING GHOULIES.

well AMY, im gonna have to take a gander at the BEAUTIFUL course you mentioned!

ANN. im sorry your missing out on your Turkey Trot tomorrow, but the fact that youre a bit ahead in your trng schedule is a good thing, yes? rest/take care.....i didnt realize you were doing Black Bear. i looked at that one too. the course scared me. your BRAVE!

ROBIN, a biopsy? hopefully nothing serious. let us know everything went ok.

TOM&NEAL. dont think i cant take you BOTH. im just sayin.....

NEAL. i was wondering. did your Doc recommend Active Release Therapy. just from what i read on your condition (yay. im geek who spends time reading about medical conditions) ART might prove to be helpful, not that im a medical professional or anything. i had ART for something unrelated and it was very helpful.

stacieb

Edited by skrtrnr 2009-11-25 8:10 AM

My Race Log

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

wgraves7582 - 2009-11-25 8:54 AM

kcarroll - 2009-11-25 8:49 AM

iowagander - 2009-11-25 1:17 AM

aspeelma - 2009-11-24 6:50 AM Who wants to come run a half marathon with Kim and I in NJ in April?

Come on, you know you want to!!!

Actually, there's a chance I'll be spending a couple months in Rhode Island starting in March, so.... maybe???

OK, let's make it a Ghoulie HM weekend!

I am busy the last week of April with my TransIowa but what is the date again?

April 18th, probably not the best prep for TransIowa. But if you're game, come on down!

My Race Log

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

disturbed275 - 2009-11-25 8:22 AM

wgraves7582 - 2009-11-25 7:04 AM So speaking about tomorrow - last night after my workout I took the wife and son for ice cream (I just had chocolate milk

) and my son was talking about how he never feels stuffed after eating anymore and that he got hungry earlier again.

I told him I never feel stuffed except 2 days a year - Thanksgiving and Christmas.

So do you eat until you are stuffed generally? QOD!

I generally do not eat until I'm stuffed, mainly because I know how miserable I am when I get to that point. I eat small, frequent meals and snack constantly throughout the day.

Like you, Bill, I will make exceptions for the holidays

I indulge a bit on the holidays. I rarely eat desert (no sweet tooth) but will have pie and ice cream tomorrow. Normally, I just graze throughout the day. Lots of small meals and snacks, like Neal.

My Race Log

Champion

16743

Somewhere I can be nekidd

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

skrtrnr - 2009-11-25 9:07 AM MORNING GHOULIES.

well AMY, im gonna have to take a gander at the BEAUTIFUL course you mentioned!

ANN. im sorry your missing out on your Turkey Trot tomorrow, but the fact that youre a bit ahead in your trng schedule is a good thing, yes? rest/take care.....i didnt realize you were doing Black Bear. i looked at that one too. the course scared me. your BRAVE!

ROBIN, a biopsy? hopefully nothing serious. let us know everything went ok.

TOM&NEAL. dont think i cant take you BOTH. im just sayin.....

NEAL. i was wondering. did your Doc recommend Active Release Therapy. just from what i read on your condition (yay. im geek who spends time reading about medical conditions) ART might prove to be helpful, not that im a medical professional or anything. i had ART for something unrelated and it was very helpful.

stacieb

Good morning Stacie

I have registered for Black Bear yet, but I think I'm going to. I just need to decide if I want to try the Oly or the Sprint. I need to start swimming better if I want to do the Oly.

Champion

16743

Somewhere I can be nekidd

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

kcarroll - 2009-11-25 9:08 AM

wgraves7582 - 2009-11-25 8:54 AM

kcarroll - 2009-11-25 8:49 AM

iowagander - 2009-11-25 1:17 AM

aspeelma - 2009-11-24 6:50 AM Who wants to come run a half marathon with Kim and I in NJ in April?

Come on, you know you want to!!!

Actually, there's a chance I'll be spending a couple months in Rhode Island starting in March, so.... maybe???

OK, let's make it a Ghoulie HM weekend!

I am busy the last week of April with my TransIowa but what is the date again?

April 18th, probably not the best prep for TransIowa. But if you're game, come on down!

He could still come down and cheer for us!

Champion

6225

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

TOM. i know your situation well. and have had the same conversation(s) w my son. its hard as a parent to watch your child choose a road, yet....its their journey to take.

ive finally gotten to the point (after all this time, and few wise words from BILL) where i have to let him make choices even if that means that he'll face difficult circumstances.

youre a wise parent. so you know.

but....micromanaging, SUCKS BIG TIME!
stacieb

Edited by skrtrnr 2009-11-25 8:14 AM

My Race Log

Champion

16743

Somewhere I can be nekidd

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

kcarroll - 2009-11-25 9:06 AM

aspeelma - 2009-11-25 6:23 AM

kcarroll - 2009-11-24 8:44 PM

aspeelma - 2009-11-24 4:26 PM Ghoulies something is wrong.My knee has been stiff since Sunday. I could feel it doing some popping when I was running then, but it never really hurt. It hasn't hurt since then it has just sort of been stiff. I head out for my 5 mile run this afternoon, I live on a hill, so I start running down hill and I can feel a popping again at the top of my knee cap, but this time it hurts. I couldn't run very far, I turned around and walked home. I already have a doctor appt scheduled for Dec. 2, I doubt I could get in before that. I have a HM on January 17th this is no time to be injured.Right now I'm sitting in my recliner with it propped up and with ice on it.

Ann, so sorry to read this. Ice and rest are your friends. Your description sounds so familiar. Keeping toes and fingers crossed for a quick recovery. FYI, when you get to the point of running again, avoid hills for a while.

It sounds like you may have some knowledge of this.

I live on hill, there are hills all around.

I could drive a few miles to a park that is mostly flat. That may not be a bad idea anyway. I generally run on the road, the trail would be softer and hopefully more forgiving.

I have patella-femoral syndrome, aka chrondomylacia or "runner's knee." It is caused by a number of factors, the main one being lack of strength in the quads and tight hamstrings. Being female doesn't help. There is what is referred to as a "Q angle" which is the angle of the femur at the knee joint. Because women have wider pelvises there is more of an angle which creates more stress on the joint. Initially rest and ice are your friend. Mine flares up a couple times a year....the most recent being last month which is why I couldn't do my HM last weekend. My recovery routine is as follows: Once pain free, easy biking for a week. When ready to run, go for the treadmill or trail for the first couple weeks. My biggest mistake is I don't strength train. That's why the "disdain" challenge was perfect. I've been doing my PT and really think it helps.

That may be more than you want to know and hopefully you just had an off day. But if it is "runner's knee" then prevention is your best strategy. Strengthen the quads, stretch the hamstrings, and go slow when ramping up mileage. Good advice that I don't always follow but should.

I was lifting weights. I LOVE lifting weights, but I got lazy and stopped. I was reading that orthotics and shoes can help, but I just got new of both and now this happens, grrr.

I just got up to walk across the room a few minutes ago and I could feel it popping. This is just depressing and frustrating right now. I am going to TRY VERY HARD to be patient and rest. I'm sure all of you know how that goes sometimes.

Subject: ...

This user's post has been ignored.

Subject: ...

This user's post has been ignored.

Champion

16743

Somewhere I can be nekidd

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

wgraves7582 - 2009-11-25 9:18 AM

skrtrnr - 2009-11-25 9:07 AM MORNING GHOULIES.

well AMY, im gonna have to take a gander at the BEAUTIFUL course you mentioned!

ANN. im sorry your missing out on your Turkey Trot tomorrow, but the fact that youre a bit ahead in your trng schedule is a good thing, yes? rest/take care.....i didnt realize you were doing Black Bear. i looked at that one too. the course scared me. your BRAVE!

ROBIN, a biopsy? hopefully nothing serious. let us know everything went ok.

TOM&NEAL. dont think i cant take you BOTH. im just sayin.....

NEAL. i was wondering. did your Doc recommend Active Release Therapy. just from what i read on your condition (yay. im geek who spends time reading about medical conditions) ART might prove to be helpful, not that im a medical professional or anything. i had ART for something unrelated and it was very helpful.

stacieb

Why was dorkface left off Queen Rockstar

Maybe Stacie lives by the "if you don't have anything nice to say..." model.

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

aspeelma - 2009-11-25 9:16 AM

kcarroll - 2009-11-25 9:06 AM

aspeelma - 2009-11-25 6:23 AM

kcarroll - 2009-11-24 8:44 PM

aspeelma - 2009-11-24 4:26 PM Ghoulies something is wrong.My knee has been stiff since Sunday. I could feel it doing some popping when I was running then, but it never really hurt. It hasn't hurt since then it has just sort of been stiff. I head out for my 5 mile run this afternoon, I live on a hill, so I start running down hill and I can feel a popping again at the top of my knee cap, but this time it hurts. I couldn't run very far, I turned around and walked home. I already have a doctor appt scheduled for Dec. 2, I doubt I could get in before that. I have a HM on January 17th this is no time to be injured.Right now I'm sitting in my recliner with it propped up and with ice on it.

Ann, so sorry to read this. Ice and rest are your friends. Your description sounds so familiar. Keeping toes and fingers crossed for a quick recovery. FYI, when you get to the point of running again, avoid hills for a while.

It sounds like you may have some knowledge of this.

I live on hill, there are hills all around.

I could drive a few miles to a park that is mostly flat. That may not be a bad idea anyway. I generally run on the road, the trail would be softer and hopefully more forgiving.

I have patella-femoral syndrome, aka chrondomylacia or "runner's knee." It is caused by a number of factors, the main one being lack of strength in the quads and tight hamstrings. Being female doesn't help. There is what is referred to as a "Q angle" which is the angle of the femur at the knee joint. Because women have wider pelvises there is more of an angle which creates more stress on the joint. Initially rest and ice are your friend. Mine flares up a couple times a year....the most recent being last month which is why I couldn't do my HM last weekend. My recovery routine is as follows: Once pain free, easy biking for a week. When ready to run, go for the treadmill or trail for the first couple weeks. My biggest mistake is I don't strength train. That's why the "disdain" challenge was perfect. I've been doing my PT and really think it helps.

That may be more than you want to know and hopefully you just had an off day. But if it is "runner's knee" then prevention is your best strategy. Strengthen the quads, stretch the hamstrings, and go slow when ramping up mileage. Good advice that I don't always follow but should.

I was lifting weights. I LOVE lifting weights, but I got lazy and stopped. I was reading that orthotics and shoes can help, but I just got new of both and now this happens, grrr.

I just got up to walk across the room a few minutes ago and I could feel it popping. This is just depressing and frustrating right now. I am going to TRY VERY HARD to be patient and rest. I'm sure all of you know how that goes sometimes.

I call them "Cap'n Crunch" knees. You can hear me coming - especially walking down stairs. Really make an effort to rest. Patience is not one of my virtues so I completely understand how you feel. I used to make those rest days "abs and push-ups". At least I felt I was doing something....and I *hate* push-ups. I used to work with a trainer and she would make me do reverse push ups. Start in the up position (men's style, no crunchy knees on the floor) and slowly lower yourself to the floor. Gave me something to be ticked off at other than my aging crumbling knees.

My Race Log

Pro

4482

NJ

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

Ok, love to chat some more but gotta go pick up the bird and the pies. Catch up with you later.

My Race Log

Subject: ...

This user's post has been ignored.

Champion

16743

Somewhere I can be nekidd

Subject: RE: Ghoulie eliptical v ST November challenge II

wgraves7582 - 2009-11-25 9:32 AM

aspeelma - 2009-11-25 9:20 AM

wgraves7582 - 2009-11-25 9:18 AM

skrtrnr - 2009-11-25 9:07 AM MORNING GHOULIES.

well AMY, im gonna have to take a gander at the BEAUTIFUL course you mentioned!

ANN. im sorry your missing out on your Turkey Trot tomorrow, but the fact that youre a bit ahead in your trng schedule is a good thing, yes? rest/take care.....i didnt realize you were doing Black Bear. i looked at that one too. the course scared me. your BRAVE!

ROBIN, a biopsy? hopefully nothing serious. let us know everything went ok.

TOM&NEAL. dont think i cant take you BOTH. im just sayin.....

NEAL. i was wondering. did your Doc recommend Active Release Therapy. just from what i read on your condition (yay. im geek who spends time reading about medical conditions) ART might prove to be helpful, not that im a medical professional or anything. i had ART for something unrelated and it was very helpful.

stacieb

Why was dorkface left off Queen Rockstar

Maybe Stacie lives by the "if you don't have anything nice to say..." model.

Thanks for the laugh Ann - I was just helping set up our work Christmas Tree - fun times!

No problem, I'm a giver.

Subject: ...

This user's post has been ignored.