ATLrunr's IM/HIM group CLOSED and training!! (Page 10)

This question is directed more to the guys.  So I have now done 3 - 1 hour rides on my new trainer and I have a lot of discomfort and numbness you know where.  I don't have this when riding outside. 

Does anyone else have this experience while riding on your trainer? 

Maybe I need a new saddle.  What do the guys recommend as a good comfortable saddle.

Rubant, I agree, the saddle is the important thing for sure. I used to get numb on my road bike to the point that when I got off it was a sharp pain down my legs. I switched to the Adamo road seat and that went away. The Adamo DEFINITELY takes getting used to though, and if you have it on a road bike, it's TOTALLY different on a tri bike.

Speaking of soreness, I haven't ridden over 30 miles on my tri bike since I've been focusing on my running with the marathon I just completed. So with that race out of the way, this week I started to concentrate more on the bike with my HIM in April. I rode 20 miles yesterday, and then today I did a 40 mile ride. Like I said, I have an Adamo road seat, and HOLY COW, am I sore. I recently switched from road shorts to wearing only tri shorts while biking to get my whatever bones those are that you sit on a little more adjusted to less padding. Yes, I can tell I gotta do more biking and get that area more prepared cause I'm walking bow legged right now lol. We'll see how it feels tomorrow when I go out for another 40 miler.

Hope everyone is having a good week of training. Got the BeIronFit book in thanks to Japewang and possibly looking at Oct and the B2B for a full. We'll see first how this half goes in April.

Boo.. that stinks that it can't work out. That would be a perfect time for me. I am in the same boat as you because I think my 1 day a week class is disbanding. Do you not live in an area with a lot of swimming?

So what's happening this weekend?

I am in Florida visiting my parents so just running today and tomorrow. Get back Saturday night and have a four hour plus ride on Sunday.

 Got a call when I was on the plane that my new bike is in the store ... Speed Concept. SOOO excited!!

Can't believe I will have to wait till Sunday to see it !

Hey Bethany, 

Enjoy that new bike,  maybe you can post a pic.  When is the first ride?  Here in upstate N.Y  the snow has melted but still too cold for an outdoor ride.  Still putting in hrs on the indoor-drainer.  

Well after the pathetic 2 hour ride I had yesterday in some fun winds, today I got my VO2 max done which was cool. Looked at the zones compared to the 220- formula and it is different.  So glad I got it done, and even better that it didn't cost anything.

Got in the pool and got a good 2900yd workout in. w/u then 5 sets of 200, 100, 100 w/ 10 seconds rest in between each.  It was brutal.

Hope everyone is having a good Monday and gonna get some great training in this week. I'm gonna start killing it again tomorrow on the bike and hopefully get a little stronger before race day.

It was pretty cool.  Definitely a little wierd wearing the mask thing. Numbers were different though from the 220-age formula.  For example via the formula 85% Max HR was 156, but now I know mine at 85% is 145. 95% went from 174 down to 162, so it showed me that this whole time I've thought my HR was running a little high, I was really on when it comes to me. My VO2 max was :60 ml/kg/min and the guy said that was really good, so cool.  I'm just glad it allows me to dial in my HR to my body now and can work more on some HR stuff.

Other than that, today got on the trainer for an hour before work, went to the pool today at open water wednesday and swam 3000yds, then came home and knocked out another 25 miles on the bike.  A good day of training.

Saw the pics of the bike, very nice. I'm a fan of black.

Hope everyone else is having a great week of training.

So Saturday, I'm going to do somewhat of a simulated HIM race. Gonna start at the pool, do my 1.2, then jump off, ride 50 miles, then run 6 miles.  I'm doing this to check on my nutrition and see if it is somewhat dialed in. I'm still far enough out if it doesn't work that I can make changes, that is why I'm doing it now. 

Breakfast-oatmeal and banana
Before swim-gel
On my bike I'll have my aero bottle (24oz) w/ 2 sccops of accelerade 240 cal total. I'll have my other bottle with the same thing.
My plan is to drink one bottle each for the first hour. That will be 240 cal in each one, then take a gel every 30 min, so an additional 200 cal, so that totals 440 cal each for the first 2 hours.
The last hour (plan on biking 19 or so mph), I plan to switch to water at an "aid station" and continue the gel every 30. That will mean the last hour on the bike 2 gels, and to supplement for drinking just water, add in a bag of GU chomps.
Run-gel and fluid every 30 depending on how I feel

Now my question is that I'm trying to determine is that for the first 2 hours I will be drinking accelerade only, no just straight water. Has anyone else done this and has it affected you? The reason I'm doing this is because race day I plan on having just the same two bottles on the bike with accelerade, and then throw the empty one out the last stop (mile 45) of the bike. I have yet to chase gels with accelerade. Anyone else done that before?

Anyone got any comments, that would be great. Really want to try to get this right this weekend.

Sounds like a good time. I'm confused about the HR data he gave you, though. For one, 220- age, if that's what you were using, isn't useful for anyone.

How did he arrive at the numbers he did, however?

Did he give you a printout with the max achieved during the test and your hypothetical max? Or were those numbers you gave a percentage of your LT heartrate?

Everyone is different but IMO, you are getting too many cals and too little fluids. You definitely need more just straight fluid on the bike. I would recommend cutting your cals to approx 300 an hour.. maybe you can do one bottle with enough accelerade to make this happen. Then you could refill the aero bottle on the fly with water at aid stations to make sure you get enough fluid.

Also, I think you said you're doing Texas.. Accelerade tastes like when it gets hot. Insulated bottles for sure!

That is hilarious!! I posted the word 'azz' on the previous post and it removed it automatically!

Anyways, what does everyone else have on tap this weekend?

I am a bit under the weather, unfortunately, so the BIG weekend I had planned is likely not happening

I'm already aggravated that I'm going to miss two sessions today... hope everything resolves quickly!

Yeah he printed out a sheet with my calculating HR zones based on predicted VT HR. It broke also broke it down into 5 zones for me. It also gave me my ventilatory threshold heart rate all broken down.

Nah, I'm not doing TX, I'm doing Charleston HIM in April, so it will still be pretty cool.

Okay I'll drop down to 300 on calories, either not taking in gels or lessen the amount of accelerade. I'm just trying to figure it out since I plan on race day only carrying two bottles, one aero, one on the frame, so my plan was for both of those to be filled with accelerade then when I finish one off, grab a water at a water stop.  So I was figuring during the bike that would be 48 oz with accelerade and then 24 oz of water after I've downed one of the accelerade. So that sounds like not enough fluid?

I use Infinit, but I can usually get through a HIM with drinking only the Infinit (and no straight water).  However, when I did IMFL, I did have water at some of the aid stations just because I got tired of the sweet taste of Infinite.  I am a smaller sized female, but I generally try to drink one bottle of Infinit per hour (which is a little over 200 calories).  Based on my weight, etc. this was the formula made for me and it seems to work very well for me.  

Doing your practice this weekend is a great idea and you will know if it will work for you or not.  

As for me, I'll be in yet another convention center this weekend watching my daughter play volleyball.  I think it may actually be ok this weekend and it is going to be cold and rainy all weekend anyway.  Hopefully I can hit the hotel gym a time or two.  What fun!