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thall0672 - 2010-04-02 8:42 AM Anne: By the way, do you always do your hill work outside? My treadmill has an incline function that goes up to 10. I'm just wondering if you (or anyone else) ever practice hills on the treadmill. I expect I may need to do it once or twice. But I'm not sure how much of an incline to use. Thank you! Tracey

SAquavia - 2010-04-02 12:46 PM
I prefer doing hill work on a treadmill if you can stand the boredom!  Treadmills are great as you can get a good uphill workout without having to deal with the pounding that happens coming back downhill after.  For me, that's where the real pain ensues.  Sure, you'll need to do some work on downhills to get proficient at the stride and dealing with the physical part of it, but I think it's a good idea to avoid too much downhill work if possible.  (As an aside, I think all the hamstring/knee issues I'm having right now are directly related to that long downhill run I did two weeks ago.)

manfarr1974 - 2010-04-02 12:22 PM



Steve A - I am 100% with you on the pain of downhill in hill repeats.  I have a 3.2 mile hill 3-9% grade (I consider it one, long hill repeat.  My go-to 5k from hell.  I love it) I run from my house that I always drive up, drop my bike, drive down, run up, and ride down.  Sounds crazy, right?  But running down that kills my body.  I haven't done it lately because of my AT issue.

I do hill work outside because I have trouble staying on a treadmill - literally, I just can't stay on them.  I have flown off the back more than once because I get bored, see something shiny, get distracted and miss-step and WHAM. Off the back I go.  I am like Dory on Finding Nemo, I swear.  I once flew off a treadmill in a full hotel gym and landed in the foam rollers (luckily I wasn't in front of the free weights).  I sheepishly left, and had to come back in to get my iPod.    So now I just say I am allergic to them. 

Cheers,
Mandy

LadyNorth - 2010-04-02 4:54 PM Tracey,
Your schedule has you running 5-6 times a week- and that's in addition to swimming and biking?  I think that might be too much.  I'm interested in what SteveB thinks.
Denise

stevebradley - 2010-03-30 4:22 PM ME AND MUSSELMAN Two years ago I did DoubleMussel88.7. This is the sprint (750meter, 16miles, 3.2miles) on the Saturday, the half-iron the next day. I had good races both days, but ultimately felt that going reallly hard on the sprint cost me maybe 10 minutes on the half. I could never prove that, but it's just a feeling based on where I felt my energy levels were at during the half. I told myself I wouldn't do that again, and were I to do the half, I would make that count. This year I have been contemplating doing the sprint and not really thinking about the half. But in considering American Triple-T North Carolina (see below), I started thinking that doing a "double", such as Mussel88.7, would be good prep. So, I'm now into the territory of considering both - the DoubleMussel88.7 - and leaning towards that as a serious plan. I would likely make the sprint my "A" race, with the half-iron weighing in at "B", maybe "B+". Another scheme of mine is Fronhofer Tool Triathlon Double, which is an oly at 7am and then a sprint at 1pm, same day. That is kind of equivalent to what I did for the Chicago Triathlon "Triple Challenge" in '08 -- super-sprint on Saturday, then the sprint at 6am on Sunday folloewed by the olympic at 9:30am. And when I talk about Triple-T N.C., which is Oct. 8-10, here's what it involves: Friday evening supersprint Saturday morning olympic in the standard order -- S,B,R Saturday afternoon olympic, in skewed order -- B,S,R Sunday morning half-iron So, doing the "Mini-Mussel" (sprint) Saturday and Musselman (half-iron) on Sunday makes some sense if I want it to begin to approximate what will happen to me if I do Triple-T. Any thoughts, gang??

stevebradley - 2010-03-23 9:32 AM You're right that you can do a brick and have some of the desired effect, but I sledom find bricks to be close to what I am really aiming for. But I bring a lot of competitiveness to my racing, and I guess I need the others around me to push me and "keep me honest". For you at this stage of things, you're not looking to be highly competitive, you're just hoping to get a feel for what it's like to ride hard and then go out on a fiarly fast run, as well as to test your fitness.

latestarter - 2010-04-02 8:10 PM   MANDY,

I tried a great new Quinoa recipe the other day.   Quinoa and cremini mushrooms served on a bed of sauteed swiss chard with garlic and topped with freshly grated parmesan cheese.   It was SO good warm and even better cold the next day.   Let me know if you are interested, and I will give you the recipe.  

latestarter - 2010-03-23 9:53 AM

I don't remember if it was KASIA who posted that they had a 31/32 stroke count.    That is exactly what I had when I first started swimming and it was in a 20 meter pool.    It DOES improve.  

SAquavia - 2010-04-02 5:10 PM Bringing out the Big Guns!
....
Well, maybe the "small guns?"  I went to the LBS to see about changing out my gearing.  I currently run:
Ultegra SL Crank: 53/39
Shimano 105 Cassette:  12-25

Wanted to shift to:
Crank:  53/36
Cassette: 11-28

The combo of the 36 in front and 28 in back would have given me the ability to climb the side of a skyscraper from a seated position while filling in sudoko puzzles and sipping lattes. 

Alas, my hope of getting that 36 on the front is dashed, as my big ring is a 53 - which means it would be too much of a drop from 53 to 36.  If my big ring had been a 52, I could have JUST done it.  My only option to get a 36 small ring is to get a new crank.  Which would cost several more hundred dollars.  And, even if I could afford it, I fear that I'd give up too much power in the higher gears on descents and end up free-wheeling. 

Anyway, no worries, I'm sure the 11/28 alone will suffice - getting it swapped out on Tuesday.

This weekend's 6,000 feet of climbing will be brought to us by the numbers 12, 25, and the letter "F" as in "F" YOU HILL!!!  :-)

augeremt - 2010-04-02 8:29 PM

Anne,

How did you improve it? Just by swimming more and getting more endurance? Or with the help of drills like the catch-up people have been talking about? I feel like there's something fundamentally wrong with my stroke, but then again, I'm not in the best swimming shape either, so that could be a problem as well.

Kasia

manfarr1974 - 2010-04-02 1:22 PM
  I once flew off a treadmill in a full hotel gym and landed in the foam rollers (luckily I wasn't in front of the free weights).  I sheepishly left, and had to come back in to get my iPod.    So now I just say I am allergic to them. 

Cheers,
Mandy

latestarter - 2010-04-02 7:58 PM



I tend to agree with Denise.   In week 2 with your 20 x 400 meters, I'm assuming that is a track, speed session.    I think 8km is too much to be doing so soon, and in one session, given your current base and the fact you are just starting speed work.   4km would be more than enough.   

thall0672 - 2010-04-02 9:45 PM That's hilarious!

SAquavia - 2010-04-02 4:10 PM
Anyway, no worries, I'm sure the 11/28 alone will suffice - getting it swapped out on Tuesday.

This weekend's 6,000 feet of climbing will be brought to us by the numbers 12, 25, and the letter "F" as in "F" YOU HILL!!!  :-)

latestarter - 2010-04-02 7:10 PM

  MANDY,

I tried a great new Quinoa recipe the other day.   Quinoa and cremini mushrooms served on a bed of sauteed swiss chard with garlic and topped with freshly grated parmesan cheese.   It was SO good warm and even better cold the next day.   Let me know if you are interested, and I will give you the recipe.  

stevebradley - 2010-04-03 8:04 AM



Any ambitious plans in the works, all?