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2011-01-02 8:15 PM in reply to: #3273070 |
Expert 1566 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED If you do a HIM better be prepared to blow your mind -haha Training rides get up to 4 hours and depending on your riding ability could take anywhere from 3 to 4 hours for the race. It seems long but once you are out there the time flies by. kdevarenne - 2011-01-02 7:22 PM 3 hours on the bike just blows my mind! I don't think I'll ever be able to commit to an ironman. Might try to do a half in 2012. |
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2011-01-02 10:31 PM in reply to: #3273070 |
Extreme Veteran 1700 Normal, Ill. | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED kdevarenne - 2011-01-02 7:22 PM 3 hours on the bike just blows my mind! I don't think I'll ever be able to commit to an ironman. Might try to do a half in 2012. No goals for January. Familly is visiting from far away for the week, so probably no good workouts. If I had a goal though it would be to stay consistent with the two swim, bike runs a week and do core work and strength training twice a week also. I love the bike. Outdoors preferred but here in the Midwest the Computrainer is a lifesaver, so are fluid trainers. I've pretty much decided to hang on the CT during the week even with good weather...I can cut down on the time needed for afterwork workouts. Takes 20 mins one way just to get out of town. Adds a lot to a 90-min workout. You don't have to spend that much time on the bike to do races 3 hours or less. Check out Carmichael's Time Crunched Cyclist. Be prepared to sweat but his point and the point of most coaches these days is that focused intense training can get the job done for shorter races. Longer races you still need the longer base and the ability to ride a while....but shorter races not so much. Don't let the times scare you. I am 59, I work two jobs, I have a wife and a house and all that entails but I can get it done. Edited by IceManScott 2011-01-02 10:32 PM |
2011-01-03 6:40 AM in reply to: #3272933 |
Extreme Veteran 424 Lockport, IL | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED IceManScott - 2011-01-02 6:04 PM Looked it up online. I'll check it out at the gym. Don't think mine here has one. I don't know if those are standard fare at gyms these days, but my community isn't what one would call "up on the times" so for our gym to have one is kind of remarkable. Good luck! As of this post I was not able to break out of the hoiday sleep schedule and get my lazy azz out of bed, so other plans will be made to do my swim. |
2011-01-03 8:18 AM in reply to: #3273329 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED IceManScott - 2011-01-02 10:31 PM kdevarenne - 2011-01-02 7:22 PM 3 hours on the bike just blows my mind! I don't think I'll ever be able to commit to an ironman. Might try to do a half in 2012. No goals for January. Familly is visiting from far away for the week, so probably no good workouts. If I had a goal though it would be to stay consistent with the two swim, bike runs a week and do core work and strength training twice a week also. I love the bike. Outdoors preferred but here in the Midwest the Computrainer is a lifesaver, so are fluid trainers. I've pretty much decided to hang on the CT during the week even with good weather...I can cut down on the time needed for afterwork workouts. Takes 20 mins one way just to get out of town. Adds a lot to a 90-min workout. You don't have to spend that much time on the bike to do races 3 hours or less. Check out Carmichael's Time Crunched Cyclist. Be prepared to sweat but his point and the point of most coaches these days is that focused intense training can get the job done for shorter races. Longer races you still need the longer base and the ability to ride a while....but shorter races not so much. Don't let the times scare you. I am 59, I work two jobs, I have a wife and a house and all that entails but I can get it done. i will do 75% of my bike training on a trainer (i looked into CT and cant justify cost at this time). i hope that will give me enough training to get me through a HIM. |
2011-01-03 8:27 AM in reply to: #3256300 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED i think it would be helpful to hear about the mental part of IM training and racing. there are many different training plans to get you physically ready but i dont see much talk about the mental part. my friend just did his first IM and he said someone told him before his that the hardest part is dealing with the unexpected during the race (flat tire, cramping, googles getting knocked off, etc). i would like the hear about how you prepare mentally for that "bad luck stuff" to happen and how you dealt with it. |
2011-01-03 8:51 AM in reply to: #3256300 |
Veteran 151 Coldfoot, Alaska | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Run/Swim brick for me today. Felt good. My goal on the swim was to not run out of breath and just keep going and that is exactly what happened. I can swim a lor longer when I'm not pushing quite so hard - and it doesn't really take me that much longer which is cool. Goals for January: Make my workouts count. I've won the Gold medal several times in coming up with excuses why I can't work out. So stick with the plan. Don't necessarily worry about intensity but get through the volume. This is the foundation for everything that will come before. So I'm going to give it my all. And six months from now I'll cross the finish line strong - in under 6:30! |
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2011-01-03 9:49 AM in reply to: #3273712 |
Expert 1566 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED I know this is going to sound cliche - but the only way to prepare yourself mentally is to actually prepare yourself by practicing those situations. People can tell you what will happen and that is useful but the best way is to actually experience it yourself. That is what your long rides/runs are for. Practice your nutrition. Last year it took me 3 to 4 long bricks (50+ mile bike w/ 45min run) to get my nutrition/hydration to where I felt comfortable and wouldn't cramp or bonk. I read books, took advice and planned it out on paper but the only way to really get it was to practice it. Same goes for changing a flat. Practice it. Practice your transitions. I set up a T1 on my drive way and lay out my shoes, helmet, glasses, etc. I learned last year that the little things can make or break your raceday. So I guess my point is - take in as much information as you can, process it but but then practice it and see how it applies to you. When is your HIM? My opinion is that 75% of your bike training on the trainer would be too much. Nothing beats the experience of actually riding on the road. Unless there is bad weather, too cold or maybe unsafe roads by you I would recommend getting out on the road. As far as getting your goggles knocked off I highly recommend this training video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_6tOzt-nfM Let me know how it works for you. gabrelsj - 2011-01-03 8:27 AM i think it would be helpful to hear about the mental part of IM training and racing. there are many different training plans to get you physically ready but i dont see much talk about the mental part. my friend just did his first IM and he said someone told him before his that the hardest part is dealing with the unexpected during the race (flat tire, cramping, googles getting knocked off, etc). i would like the hear about how you prepare mentally for that "bad luck stuff" to happen and how you dealt with it. |
2011-01-03 10:06 AM in reply to: #3273934 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED tmoran80 - 2011-01-03 9:49 AMI know this is going to sound cliche - but the only way to prepare yourself mentally is to actually prepare yourself by practicing those situations. People can tell you what will happen and that is useful but the best way is to actually experience it yourself. That is what your long rides/runs are for. Practice your nutrition. Last year it took me 3 to 4 long bricks (50+ mile bike w/ 45min run) to get my nutrition/hydration to where I felt comfortable and wouldn't cramp or bonk. I read books, took advice and planned it out on paper but the only way to really get it was to practice it. Same goes for changing a flat. Practice it. Practice your transitions. I set up a T1 on my drive way and lay out my shoes, helmet, glasses, etc. I learned last year that the little things can make or break your raceday. So I guess my point is - take in as much information as you can, process it but but then practice it and see how it applies to you. When is your HIM? My opinion is that 75% of your bike training on the trainer would be too much. Nothing beats the experience of actually riding on the road. Unless there is bad weather, too cold or maybe unsafe roads by you I would recommend getting out on the road. As far as getting your goggles knocked off I highly recommend this training video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_6tOzt-nfM Let me know how it works for you. gabrelsj - 2011-01-03 8:27 AM i think it would be helpful to hear about the mental part of IM training and racing. there are many different training plans to get you physically ready but i dont see much talk about the mental part. my friend just did his first IM and he said someone told him before his that the hardest part is dealing with the unexpected during the race (flat tire, cramping, googles getting knocked off, etc). i would like the hear about how you prepare mentally for that "bad luck stuff" to happen and how you dealt with it. |
2011-01-03 10:08 AM in reply to: #3272848 |
Expert 1566 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Since my training this month will be focused on running - my goal for January is do ALL my long runs at the correct pace of 10:45/mile. I have a tendency to push myself on long runs and run race pace and I think it is why I get hurt marathon training. You can't run a race every weekend . I also need to do active recovery 2-3 times week with foam roller and tennis ball. razorxp - 2011-01-02 5:12 PM I say we do a challenge for everyone. Post Jan goal and we can encourage each other. ill post when not on cell phone. |
2011-01-03 10:15 AM in reply to: #3274002 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED gabrelsj - 2011-01-03 10:06 AM tmoran80 - 2011-01-03 9:49 AMI know this is going to sound cliche - but the only way to prepare yourself mentally is to actually prepare yourself by practicing those situations. People can tell you what will happen and that is useful but the best way is to actually experience it yourself. That is what your long rides/runs are for. Practice your nutrition. Last year it took me 3 to 4 long bricks (50+ mile bike w/ 45min run) to get my nutrition/hydration to where I felt comfortable and wouldn't cramp or bonk. I read books, took advice and planned it out on paper but the only way to really get it was to practice it. Same goes for changing a flat. Practice it. Practice your transitions. I set up a T1 on my drive way and lay out my shoes, helmet, glasses, etc. I learned last year that the little things can make or break your raceday. So I guess my point is - take in as much information as you can, process it but but then practice it and see how it applies to you. When is your HIM? My opinion is that 75% of your bike training on the trainer would be too much. Nothing beats the experience of actually riding on the road. Unless there is bad weather, too cold or maybe unsafe roads by you I would recommend getting out on the road. As far as getting your goggles knocked off I highly recommend this training video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_6tOzt-nfM Let me know how it works for you. gabrelsj - 2011-01-03 8:27 AM i think it would be helpful to hear about the mental part of IM training and racing. there are many different training plans to get you physically ready but i dont see much talk about the mental part. my friend just did his first IM and he said someone told him before his that the hardest part is dealing with the unexpected during the race (flat tire, cramping, googles getting knocked off, etc). i would like the hear about how you prepare mentally for that "bad luck stuff" to happen and how you dealt with it. sorry i posted before writing anything. my HIM is may 7. i will do all i can to be physically ready but i like to hear other peoples thoughts on being mentally ready. i like your ideas of practicing everything before. i did my first half marathon in nov. i trained hard and felt prepared. i got a blister on the bottom of my foot about 5 miles in. i did not have any issues at all training. i could not believe i got a blister during the race. i finished the race but it was very frustrating. to me that was mental. like to hear how other people prepare so maybe i wont overlook something. thanks for the link on googles. |
2011-01-03 10:26 AM in reply to: #3256300 |
Extreme Veteran 1700 Normal, Ill. | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED I like what was said. Practice, practice. Let the air out of your tire at home...change it several times. Chrissie Wellington even had problems on this score, remember? lance too at the Ride in the Sky 100 last year, I think it's called. He finished the last 7 miles on a flat cause he couldn't fix it on the road. Swim open water. I can't imagine how to prepare for blisters without getting one, which I did recently. Mental toughness is really a matter of preparation and an unwillingness to let things fluster you. I did have an Oly bike on a seat that wanted to come off. Hit 90 plus on a run...hard on an old guy... I've trained to give myself positive messages...over the top of the negative sometimes. Triathlon Revolution by Terri Schneider talks about the mental game. Key stuff. |
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2011-01-03 11:49 AM in reply to: #3274007 |
Master 1790 \Windsor, Ontario | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED |
2011-01-03 12:25 PM in reply to: #3274348 |
Expert 1566 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Check out this article with the tennis ball http://www.triathlete-digital.com/triathlete/201011?pg=42#pg42 Here is another good article - http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/tipsandtricks/a/activerecovery.htm I believe it help your muscles recover faster and helps prevent injury. I have used the foam roller ever since I had IT Band issues 2 years ago and swear by it now. I haven't had to use it much lately because I haven't really been running many miles but as they increase I need to use it. Some of the things I plan to do are: Foam Roller, tennis ball, yoga, walking, light stretching and a massage (If it fits budget $$$) kcgolf - 2011-01-03 11:49 AM Can you share with me what active recovery is/ Thanks. KC |
2011-01-03 2:18 PM in reply to: #3274087 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED IceManScott - 2011-01-03 10:26 AM I like what was said. Practice, practice. Let the air out of your tire at home...change it several times. Chrissie Wellington even had problems on this score, remember? lance too at the Ride in the Sky 100 last year, I think it's called. He finished the last 7 miles on a flat cause he couldn't fix it on the road. Swim open water. I can't imagine how to prepare for blisters without getting one, which I did recently. Mental toughness is really a matter of preparation and an unwillingness to let things fluster you. I did have an Oly bike on a seat that wanted to come off. Hit 90 plus on a run...hard on an old guy... I've trained to give myself positive messages...over the top of the negative sometimes. Triathlon Revolution by Terri Schneider talks about the mental game. Key stuff. good stuff. thanks |
2011-01-03 3:07 PM in reply to: #3274773 |
Regular 95 Augusta, GA | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Newbie Question..... Did 1.7 on a treadmill today according to my pedometer (pro form) watch. The treadmill said I did 1.2. Any clue why the difference? Also the pro form has a heart rate monitor on it. It says my high rate should be about 154, but at the end it said I was at about 178. I feel fine, but is this something to worry about? Thanks for the help. Court |
2011-01-03 4:02 PM in reply to: #3274467 |
Master 1790 \Windsor, Ontario | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Thanks for the words of encouragemnt. |
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2011-01-03 4:03 PM in reply to: #3256300 |
Master 1790 \Windsor, Ontario | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Hope everyone is having a great start to the week. I am off to my curling league - looking forward to it. KC |
2011-01-03 6:56 PM in reply to: #3274860 |
Expert 1566 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED I would go by the treadmill. I never used a pedometer but did you have to calibrate it to your stride length? Maybe that is off? As far as the heart rate there is a basic formula that takes your age subtracted by 220. This gives you your max heart rate. You then take percentages to gauge your workout. Depending on the person this formula works and sometimes it is way off. There are more accurate fitness time trials to use. For example according to the basic formula my max HR is 184 but according to the test I have done from this site my Zone 5 Max is 190. ltcsh1 - 2011-01-03 3:07 PM Newbie Question..... Did 1.7 on a treadmill today according to my pedometer (pro form) watch. The treadmill said I did 1.2. Any clue why the difference? Also the pro form has a heart rate monitor on it. It says my high rate should be about 154, but at the end it said I was at about 178. I feel fine, but is this something to worry about? Thanks for the help. Court |
2011-01-03 10:11 PM in reply to: #3256300 |
Extreme Veteran 828 North Shore, MA. | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Goals for January... 1 x computrainer class per week. Swim 2 x week - Including 1 coached session. 2hrs on the trainer per week. Run 4 x week - including 1 temp & 1 long run. 1 x Strength training class per week. Register for HIM Sound reasonable? Edited by cheekymonkeys1 2011-01-03 10:12 PM |
2011-01-03 11:57 PM in reply to: #3256300 |
Expert 1325 Findlay, OH | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Hey everyone great job helping each other with issues. Sounds like the new year is off to a great start for everyone. Edited by razorxp 2011-01-03 11:58 PM |
2011-01-04 5:39 AM in reply to: #3275802 |
Master 1790 \Windsor, Ontario | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Enjoy your time in FLA Coach - are you on vacation? |
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2011-01-04 8:15 AM in reply to: #3275004 |
Veteran 151 Coldfoot, Alaska | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED CURLING!!!! I remember curling. I used to live in North Bay Ontario and that was one of my favorite activities. Just about the most fun one can have on ice if I remember! Thanks for the memory! Erin kcgolf - 2011-01-03 3:03 PM Hope everyone is having a great start to the week. I am off to my curling league - looking forward to it. KC |
2011-01-04 8:30 AM in reply to: #3256300 |
Extreme Veteran 424 Lockport, IL | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED Got both the swim and bike in yesterday! Did the swim, came home and ate something and about an hour later my fiance and I hit spin class. Feeling it today. |
2011-01-04 9:05 AM in reply to: #3276165 |
Extreme Veteran 828 North Shore, MA. | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED robburkett - 2011-01-04 9:30 AM Rob,For my pool workouts I use a ziplock bag. I just slide the paper in, zip it up and I'm good to go. Plus, it sticks to the mounts on the side of the pool.Got both the swim and bike in yesterday! Did the swim, came home and ate something and about an hour later my fiance and I hit spin class. Feeling it today. |
2011-01-04 9:37 AM in reply to: #3256300 |
Veteran 446 | Subject: RE: Razorxp Group Is CLOSED i have a question. my HIM is in may. my training plan says to ride two days per week for 1 hr and one long ride per week of 30-50 miles. does that seem like enough bike training? |
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