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Grr another android double post.

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2011-01-26 10:29 AM
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aah!  You had me all lathered up at outdoor cycling miles!  Just as well, I need to put more miles in my run anyway.  Like the idea! 
2011-01-26 10:34 AM
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56 miles for someone that did 50 last month is great. But 56 miles for someone that did 25 last month may end up with someone hurt. My group asked for a run challenge for February. We did swimming for January. I'm just going to ask for a 10% improvement on last months number or a reasonable and safe personally selected number of miles. Besides, I'd have 56 miles done in the first 2 weeks! LOL
2011-01-26 10:45 AM
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Meulen - 2011-01-26 8:34 AM 56 miles for someone that did 50 last month is great. But 56 miles for someone that did 25 last month may end up with someone hurt. My group asked for a run challenge for February. We did swimming for January. I'm just going to ask for a 10% improvement on last months number or a reasonable and safe personally selected number of miles. Besides, I'd have 56 miles done in the first 2 weeks! LOL


VERY good point Brian.  If you aren't running more than one or two times a week for just a couple miles, please don't attempt to bang out the whole 56 next month.  I don't want anyone getting injured trying to impress some folks on the internet.  However, challenges like this are a good way to gauge how much training volume your body can handle which allows you to fine tune your training later or manipulate a generic training plan to your advantage.  So in short, push the mileage a little, (10% is the standard rule of thumb) but don't go into bezerker mode!
2011-01-26 12:38 PM
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Thought this might be useful since we're running and xc skiing so much out there!

http://www.active.com/triathlon/Newsletters/1-26-11.htm
2011-01-26 3:45 PM
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I'm game for 56 miles, but some of it may be walking.  I have a goal to  run, walk, or hike 1000 miles in one year anyway (year ends in august).


2011-01-26 3:52 PM
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I meant running 56 kilometres! That would be a lot of swimming for me too! I measure everything in kilometres anyway though. My longest run is about 7 km, and that included a fair bit of walking, so 56 miles (90k) of running seems like an awful lot.
2011-01-26 4:21 PM
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rachel5576 - 2011-01-26 1:45 PM I'm game for 56 miles, but some of it may be walking.  I have a goal to  run, walk, or hike 1000 miles in one year anyway (year ends in august).


Where are you at w/ that?  How much farther?  1k isn't couch potato mode for sure!
2011-01-26 4:23 PM
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lsmapp - 2011-01-26 1:52 PM I meant running 56 kilometres! That would be a lot of swimming for me too! I measure everything in kilometres anyway though. My longest run is about 7 km, and that included a fair bit of walking, so 56 miles (90k) of running seems like an awful lot.


Right, I knew that Embarassed.  I have done a 50k ultramarathon.  Once.  That was brutal.  I didn't train nearly enough for it.
2011-01-26 9:25 PM
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I have 680 miles to go, i had to take almost a month off due to an injury maybe i should extend my deadline.  I guess i'll wait till i get a little closer to decide that.  My miles should add up a little faster once i start getting more long runs in.
2011-01-27 10:09 AM
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rachel5576 - 2011-01-26 7:25 PM I have 680 miles to go, i had to take almost a month off due to an injury maybe i should extend my deadline.  I guess i'll wait till i get a little closer to decide that.  My miles should add up a little faster once i start getting more long runs in.


That's certainly doable, ~6 months left.  People don't realize how much distance they cover in a day just walking.

Brick on the schedule for me today, haven't done one in quite some time.  I'm excited to get out on the TT bike again though.  Anybody doing any sort of racing this weekend?


2011-01-27 10:11 AM
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Two part question today.  Without going to the USAT rulebook, see if you can answer this.

QOTD: A) How long do you have to pass another rider on the bike?  B) If you are passing another rider on the bike course and someone attempts to pass you and you impede their forward progress, what is that called?
2011-01-27 11:26 AM
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no idea on the rules, but I'll guess A) 15-20 seconds, B) bad timing!
2011-01-27 11:49 AM
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Mtb63 - 2011-01-27 9:26 AM no idea on the rules, but I'll guess A) 15-20 seconds, B) bad timing!


Good guess!  15 seconds is the time limit to pass.  Anything longer and you can be penalized.  Somebody else take a shot at B.
2011-01-27 2:26 PM
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I'll stay quiet....  Doesn't happen to often! 
2011-01-27 2:41 PM
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brick94513 - 2011-01-27 12:26 PM I'll stay quiet....  Doesn't happen to often! 


Ha, I would hope you'd give the mentees a chance first!

No brick for me today, I 'got invited' to a dog and pony show (read 'demo' for some big wigs) that ran about an hour longer than was planned.  I'll have to settle for a longer than usual ride home this evening.  I have had a twinge of pain behind my left knee right above my calf that could probably use a break anyway.  I just hate taking time off!


2011-01-27 7:29 PM
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Thanks for the comments on registering as a novice.  As far as I can tell from the race info, all it means is I'd start in a wave with other novices but be competing against others in my age group. I might decide to just duke it out with the masses, though.   

Answer to QOTD:  Interference and 2 minutes in the penalty box?  
2011-01-28 9:28 AM
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Geesh i hadn't given any thought to rules. I'm just hoping to survive Embarassed


Been a crazy busy week here. I'm exhausted. Purposely did not set my alarm last night.  I figured the way i was feeling if i didn't wake up naturally i needed the sleep.  so i slept in no swimming for me today.

But I'm super excited the local high school is offering adult swimming lessons next month!!!! I was going to take lessons in April at the Y but thats an hour from me. win!

Hope to get in the run that i missed yesterday.  We'll see. my first priority is laying my butt on the couch (yawn)  lol

Have a good weekend!
2011-01-28 10:30 AM
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swomen1 - Answer to QOTD:  Interference and 2 minutes in the penalty box?


1/2 right, good job!  Time penalties vary depending on race distance, but 2 minutes is correct for a short race!


Answer: Article 5.10d. — Blocking.

The rule disallows any action on the part of a cyclist that would impede the forward progress of a passing cyclist.  Examples of how a cyclist might violate the rule include, riding on the far left side of the lane of travel and preventing a cyclist from passing on the left, riding on the left side and forcing a passing cyclist to slow down or pass on the right, moving left in front of a passing cyclist so as to force the passing cyclist to veer left or right and other behavior which serves to actively impede forward progress. 

When passing, a participant must pass to the left, but should leave room to his left for others to pass.  Remember to keep right except when passing. A cyclist only has 15 seconds to be in the passing lane before completing the pass. 



rachel5576 - 2011-01-28 7:28 AM Geesh i hadn't given any thought to rules. I'm just hoping to survive Embarassed


Exactly why I posted the question.  Ignorance can't be an excuse for breaking the rules.  The bike is probably the easiest place to receive a penalty so I want to make sure you all have the best chance of success. Wink

Been a crazy busy week here. I'm exhausted. Purposely did not set my alarm last night.  I figured the way i was feeling if i didn't wake up naturally i needed the sleep.  so i slept in no swimming for me today.

But I'm super excited the local high school is offering adult swimming lessons next month!!!! I was going to take lessons in April at the Y but thats an hour from me. win!

Hope to get in the run that i missed yesterday.  We'll see. my first priority is laying my butt on the couch (yawn)  lol

Have a good weekend!


I skipped my run this morning as well, got an extra 45 mins of sleep.  Taking the day off to go see the bike fitter again today, will try to do my longest ride yet tomorrow then going to see Disney on Ice w/ the fam Sunday. 

That's awesome about the lessons, I haven't come to terms w/ the commitment to get to masters classes at 530 3x/week, so I'm slackin on the swim big time.


ETA: Here's the link to the USAT rules if anyone is interested.  It's a pretty quick read and it's good to have on hand.

http://www.usatriathlon.org/pages/1684

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2011-01-29 5:22 PM
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Thanks for the schooling, I also haven't given any thought to the rules.   I'm doing a duathlon next weekend so I did a little test run today to see how things went.  Ran a 10k then biked 34 miles, backward brick because that's the order in the event.  Even with some light planning for the transition, I was surprised how inept I was and felt during it.  It took me 11 minutes to get changed, refueled, and back on the bike.  I forgot to fill my bottles up prior to starting, I ran in running clothes and biked in biking clothes, had to scoop out and mix my endurance drink, had to use the bathroom, you get the picture.  I'm glad I did this because it highlighted for me an area I need to start practicing.  I was genuinely more worried about the 10k, and like the rules mentioned above, I hadn't given the transition much thought.

Hope you all have a super weekend, we were blessed with a sunny 70 degrees today.  I think I smell spring!
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Mtb63 - 2011-01-29 3:22 PM Thanks for the schooling, I also haven't given any thought to the rules.   I'm doing a duathlon next weekend so I did a little test run today to see how things went.  Ran a 10k then biked 34 miles, backward brick because that's the order in the event.  Even with some light planning for the transition, I was surprised how inept I was and felt during it.  It took me 11 minutes to get changed, refueled, and back on the bike.  I forgot to fill my bottles up prior to starting, I ran in running clothes and biked in biking clothes, had to scoop out and mix my endurance drink, had to use the bathroom, you get the picture.  I'm glad I did this because it highlighted for me an area I need to start practicing.  I was genuinely more worried about the 10k, and like the rules mentioned above, I hadn't given the transition much thought.



Transitions are the fourth discipline of triathlons!  This isn't any area to hang out, sit down, chat, change clothes, or eat.  By not being efficient here, you are just giving time away to your competitors.

Here's some tips:

1.  For the duathlon, run in tri shorts.  You never want to be changing clothes in transition.
2.  Invest in Lace Locks for your running shoes.  No time wasted tying and untying shoes this way.
3.  Have all food and nutrition ready to go on the bike.  Eat while riding!
4.  It takes practice, but have your shoes mounted on the pedals and slide into your shoes while riding.
5.  Remember to don and buckle helmet before unracking your bike (penalty otherwise).  Have the helmet upside down on your handlebars for a quick flip onto your head.
6.  Run your bike past the mount line and the other people trying to get on their bikes at the line.  People will fumble here.  Get clear of the congestion.

Usualy a couple weeks prior to an event, I'll start to dry run the transitions.  Basically, this is the same as a T2 transition, which you should be able to do in less than 1 minute.  I think Jay had a blistering T2 last year under 30 seconds.


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I had a great week of training.  In fact, with getting ready for this century ride in a couple weeks, I hit my biggest weekly hour total ever.  I logged just shy of 15 hours for this week!  Cool
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brick94513 - 2011-01-29 6:35 PM
Mtb63 - 2011-01-29 3:22 PM Thanks for the schooling, I also haven't given any thought to the rules.   I'm doing a duathlon next weekend so I did a little test run today to see how things went.  Ran a 10k then biked 34 miles, backward brick because that's the order in the event.  Even with some light planning for the transition, I was surprised how inept I was and felt during it.  It took me 11 minutes to get changed, refueled, and back on the bike.  I forgot to fill my bottles up prior to starting, I ran in running clothes and biked in biking clothes, had to scoop out and mix my endurance drink, had to use the bathroom, you get the picture.  I'm glad I did this because it highlighted for me an area I need to start practicing.  I was genuinely more worried about the 10k, and like the rules mentioned above, I hadn't given the transition much thought.



Transitions are the fourth discipline of triathlons!  This isn't any area to hang out, sit down, chat, change clothes, or eat.  By not being efficient here, you are just giving time away to your competitors.

Here's some tips:

1.  For the duathlon, run in tri shorts.  You never want to be changing clothes in transition.
2.  Invest in Lace Locks for your running shoes.  No time wasted tying and untying shoes this way.
3.  Have all food and nutrition ready to go on the bike.  Eat while riding!
4.  It takes practice, but have your shoes mounted on the pedals and slide into your shoes while riding.
5.  Remember to don and buckle helmet before unracking your bike (penalty otherwise).  Have the helmet upside down on your handlebars for a quick flip onto your head.
6.  Run your bike past the mount line and the other people trying to get on their bikes at the line.  People will fumble here.  Get clear of the congestion.

Usualy a couple weeks prior to an event, I'll start to dry run the transitions.  Basically, this is the same as a T2 transition, which you should be able to do in less than 1 minute.  I think Jay had a blistering T2 last year under 30 seconds.


Very good stuff here.  I used Tim's guidance for transitions and it really is a whole other discipline.  I know I need to be fast in T1/T2 because I'm slow.  It's the difference between 10th and 20th place, realistically.  And 33 seconds was my fastest Tim Wink
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brick94513 - 2011-01-29 6:37 PM I had a great week of training.  In fact, with getting ready for this century ride in a couple weeks, I hit my biggest weekly hour total ever.  I logged just shy of 15 hours for this week!  Cool


Holy crap, that's a ton!  I did my long ride today instead of tomorrow so that put me just over 13 WITH my commute rides.  I like <10 hrs total since I can't seem to prioritize more than 6-7 hrs of sleep a night.  Makes me drag a$$ during the workday. 
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shmeeg - 2011-01-29 9:00 PM

Holy crap, that's a ton!  I did my long ride today instead of tomorrow so that put me just over 13 WITH my commute rides.  I like <10 hrs total since I can't seem to prioritize more than 6-7 hrs of sleep a night.  Makes me drag a$$ during the workday. 


You just need to find a job that requires less hours!
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