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2011-02-12 12:28 PM
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Subject: My weekly summary
Almost stuck to my plan 100%.  Pretty good training week capped off with a great 4 rider computrainer session @ my coaches place in New Brunswick with other guys also training for Ironman Lake Placid.  There is a lot of comfort that I now know 2 others that are signed up for this July adventure.  I was so pumped when I got home that I changed and went out for a 6 mile run.  No iPod, just me and the cold, it was great.  It actually snowed for about 5 minutes during the run which made is really nice.  Gonna go eat and then pass out for a few hours.  

Weekly Totals for me:
Swim:  2:39 -  4375 yds  (1 hr of that was TI training, no yds)
Bike: 2:42 - 73 miles
Run: 2:00 - 14 miles
Strength: 2:00  (including 1:30 of yoga - really starting to appreciate it more & more
 


2011-02-12 1:38 PM
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Unfortunately, overuse injuries have me "out" this week Yell  I'll start an active rest next week and try again from there.  Shoulder is quite bad and I can barely walk on my right foot....I know where I went wrong; live and learn I guess....

H?ope everyone's right on target.
2011-02-12 4:34 PM
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My legs are still shot from the kicking drills in the pool.   If I can re-group, I may add a little cycling tonight.   Actually a glass or two of port and an early night is sounding more enticing.  

Event                Time                Distance
Swim                 4:15:20            11550
Bike                    1:40                      30
Run                    1:22                      8.8
2011-02-12 5:22 PM
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Subject: Tri Bike for Sale
If you know anyone looking for a Tri bike please pass this link along

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270705735312&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

I just got it last month, never ridden outside but its just a tiny bit small.  It was a great deal so I couldn't pass it up but I rather start off the season with the right bike instead of possibly switching mid year.

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2011-02-12 9:25 PM
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Subject: RE: 1st Swim Test - Somewhat of a break through.
An interesting podcast on muscle cramps - http://www.tri-talk.com/index.asp  I believe it was podcast 74.   It covers the causes of cramps and offers an unconventional cure.   
2011-02-13 11:39 AM
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Here's my week- a little light due to travel!  I go to the foot doc tomorrow, so we'll see if I can start to try and run again.

Swim = 5,200 yards    2 hours 15 minutes
Bike = 45 miles  2 hours 14 minutes
Strength = 20 monutes 


2011-02-13 4:32 PM
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I was traveling this week so the bike got neglected; but I did get in the pool everyday.  I had a great dinner in SLC with Roberto and his wife so I have to say this was the best training week yet!

NJ, when are we going to do a meet and greet?  Shameful I met the rocky mountain guys prior to the Jersey Guys.



Total Time: 10:50:46
Swim: 4:17:37 = 7525 Yards
Bike: 3:58:08  = 63.46 miles
Run: 2:35:01 = 16 miles 
2011-02-13 4:33 PM
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Subject: RE: 1st Swim Test - Somewhat of a break through.
Thanks guys, this is great info!


Grant, how are you liking the new ride?  I am thinking we should try for next sunday to get out if the forecast holds! 
2011-02-13 4:38 PM
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Subject: RE: 1st Swim Test - Somewhat of a break through.
I'm ready to go when you are!   I initially felt a little off with the new bike, moved the seat forward about 1 cm.  The bars felt too low initially, I eventually stretched out.   The more I ride the better it feels.  
2011-02-13 5:05 PM
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Subject: RE: 1st Swim Test - Somewhat of a break through.
Count me in for a ride next Sunday.  I went out today for the first outdoor ride of the year.  Very cold but bearable. 
2011-02-13 10:55 PM
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Subject: RE: 1st Swim Test - Somewhat of a break through.


I looked at my watch and was amazed that I was swimming for 50:43; and I could not wait to come home and look at the data.  Well the watch had all of the splits screwed up (I am not sure what I did wrong but I know I was not swimming 25 yds in 14 and 15 seconds) so I averaged out my time about 43 seconds per 25 and came up with 1727 yards.  


 


Wow, you absolutely rocked it on the swim! I am amazed at how well you have picked this up, I'm calling our local TI coach tomorrow to find out about some lessons. Great job!


2011-02-13 10:58 PM
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Northern ivy - 2011-02-13 3:32 PM I was traveling this week so the bike got neglected; but I did get in the pool everyday.  I had a great dinner in SLC with Roberto and his wife so I have to say this was the best training week yet!

NJ, when are we going to do a meet and greet?  Shameful I met the rocky mountain guys prior to the Jersey Guys.

 


Great dinner and great to meet one of the many from the NJ area, maybe I need to move as it seems that this group is mostly located in that area. Am I missing something?
2011-02-13 11:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Big Steve's Group - CLOSED
Still trying to get over some feet issues so a very light running week.

S:  
4334.00 Yd
1h 46m
B: 
84.78 Mi
5h 55m 08s
R:  
6.57 Mi
1h 10m
 
2011-02-14 2:20 PM
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roberto24 - 2011-02-13 10:03 PM Still trying to get over some feet issues so a very light running week.

 

Foot issues not feet issues.
2011-02-14 9:37 PM
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Subject: RE: 1st Swim Test - Somewhat of a break through.
grauch - 2011-02-12 8:25 PM An interesting podcast on muscle cramps - http://www.tri-talk.com/index.asp  I believe it was podcast 74.   It covers the causes of cramps and offers an unconventional cure.   


I'm sure this will come helpful as I starting go longer distances!!!!  When I first started swimming, I could feel my calves starting to tighten up and stopped at that point.   I feel like I'm walking a fine line, but the last week haven't had the issues.  The Masters couch has me working on my endurance now.  Now my lungs burn!!!!!    I'm sure next week, he'll have me go 150 yards without stopping.   I feel like I'm doing interval training in the pool!!!!   It's all good, so far!   
2011-02-14 9:50 PM
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Here's my totals.   I'm starting to think Basketball is a bad idea!   I did a cut and tweaked my knee again.   I had no pain running, swimming, and biking for the last week an half and my first night back tweaked my knee.  I only lost a day and half of training because of it.  I'm glad I'm only during a sprint, but my training plan is set-up to train for an Olympic.

Swimming      5500      3 hrs 15 mins
Biking            13.13      36 mins   (only got one workout in due to knee issue)
Running         1.13        13 mins   (same as biking)
Strength                       60 mins
Basketball                     45 mins   (I count this as part of one of my running sessions)



2011-02-14 9:59 PM
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Subject: knee issue again....
As mentioned above, I tweaked my knee again playing basketball.  It would hurt to bend my knee and walk up and down stairs.  It was better after a couple of days of rest.  What concerns me is I had no pain for two weeks and hadn't played Basketball for a couple of weeks.  Then last Wednesday I tweaked it again, when I did a hard cut.  My questions is it something else then the meniscus like all the web sites tell me.  Is it ,ore serious like an ACL or MCL tear.   I'm fine running, swimming, and biking.  I guess I'll give basketball another night and take it easier and so what happens.  If I tweak it again, I guess I need to see the doc.  Anybody have anything similar happen to them?  I wonder if I'm just to tired on the day I play Basketball, since I'm up at 4:30am to go swimming.   Maybe I just need nap before playing Basketball at 7pm!    

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2011-02-14 10:01 PM
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Aaaaah, it seems I'm not the only one suffering from injuries these days.  I have a question for you all.  I started experiencing shoulder pain (mostly on my left trap but some cuff pain too) and could only attribute it to the swim; although I didn't have an acute injury (that I remembered anyway) it just graduated over the course of a week until it got to the point that I couldn't even lift my arm and my second problem is a crampy pain on the top of my right foot that doesn't seem to want to go away I can only assume from jogging...anyway, my question is this, I've taken a week off and think I should get back at it, but although both pains are "better" they're still there should I go for or take more time off?  I don't want to pamper myself but I also don't want to make things worse like last year.  Thanks...
2011-02-14 10:18 PM
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I used to get shoulder pain similar to what you are describing.  It came from reaching too close to the centerline and over exerting on the stroke.  I now reach at 10:30 and 1:30 respectively instead of 12:00.   I finally worked my way out of it by swimming with less intensity and focusing more on perfecting stroke mechanics.  When I felt pain, I would back off.  By going slow and long, I eventually built the strength to begin adding more intesity without pain.    
2011-02-14 10:36 PM
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Subject: Training Day Nutrition?

The other day I was talking to my old weight lifting trainer on my nutrition.  He thinks I need to be taking 3 whey protein shakes thought out the day.   From everything I've read for triathlon training, you need to consume more good carbs and the foods I eat should have enough protein, like chicken.  

On my training days heres what I take:

Breakfast:
Instant oatmeal packet
3 cliff blocks  (about 100 calories)
swimming for an hour - sipping Endurox drink (Recovery drink 4:1 carbs to protein) -- approx 150 calories
Egg Beaters omelette with bell peppers, a little cheese, and a sprinkle of Turkey bacon or breakfast sausage

Mid morning snack
one banana

Lunch
lean protein meat, usually chicken, with a veggie
Greek non-fat yogurt with fruit or a sprinkle of granola
a handful of almonds

Mid afternoon snack
an apple

training depends on the day
if running and biking then 3 cliff bloks

Dinner usually a healthy meal loadded with good carbs like whole grain pasta

Evening snack is a handful of crackers or pretzels

I think I will need to consume more good calories as my workouts start to get longer distances.   What are most of you doing and is whey protein shakes needed in my diet?



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2011-02-14 10:51 PM
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Subject: RE: knee issue again....
OspreyTriAhtlete - 2011-02-14 8:59 PM As mentioned above, I tweaked my knee again playing basketball.  It would hurt to bend my knee and walk up and stairs.  It was better after a couple of days of rest.  What concerns was I had no pain for two weeks and hadn't played Basketball for a couple of weeks till last Wednesday.  When I did a hard cut, I tweaked it again.  My questions is it something else then the meniscus all the web sites tell me, like ACL or MCL.   I'm fine running, swimming, and biking.  I guess I'll give basketball ball another night and take it easier so what happens.  If I tweak it again, I guess I need to see the doc.  Anybody have anything similar happen to them?  I wonder if I'm just to tired on the day I play Basketball, since I'm up at 4:30am to go swimming.   Maybe I just need nap before playing Basketball at 7pm!    


As someone that has 2 acl surgeries a meniscus repair and a couple of other knee surgeries all that I can recommend to you is to get it checked by a doctor as an MRI may answer your questions. Be easy on your knees and rest them if they are giving you a hard time. I have been easing my way into running and am still doing very low miles at an easy pace as to not hurt the knees. Take care of yourself and listen to your body.


2011-02-15 10:25 AM
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Sorry for the delay, travel week for me - which means my numbers will suck this week :-(

-Steven

   Total ------- SWIM ------------- BIKE ------- ------ RUN ------ Strength ---- OTHER ----- 
useridName Time TimeYards TimeMiles TimeMiles Time TimeDetails 
                   
stevepivSteven 9:21:00 2:39:004375 2:42:0073 2:00:0014 2:00:00  1 hr of the swim was TI drills
Northern ivyJames 10:50:46 4:17:377525 3:58:0863.46 2:35:0116      
mat13palMat 0:00:00               
jamesjongJames 0               
AnimalcrackersJules 0               
TriTogaSteve 0:00:00               
Sooner  0               
Muskwa2Maureen 0:00:00               
GrauchGrant 7:17:20 4:15:2011550 1:40:0030 1:22:008.8      
LeftrunnerRobert 0               
MargaritaRita 0               
myred86Rob 4:49:00 2:15:005200 2:14:0045    0:20:00    
roberto24Rob 8:51:08 1:46:004334 5:55:0884.78 1:10:006.57      
PoolgodJustin 0:00:00               
simonewrightSimone 0               
OspreyTriAhtleteMike 5:49:00 3:15:005500 0:36:0013.13 0:13:001.13 1:00 0:45:00Basketball 
                   
Totals  46:58:14 18:27:5738484 17:05:16309.37 7:20:0146.5 3:20:00 0:45:00  
2011-02-15 11:22 AM
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OspreyTriAhtlete - 2011-02-14 8:36 PM

.... He thinks I need to be taking 3 whey protein shakes thought out the day. ......On my training days heres what I take:

.......I think I will need to consume more good calories as my workouts start to get longer distances.   What are most of you doing and is whey protein shakes needed in my diet?



Three shakes a day would be pretty accessive, but weight lifters tend to be that way   I'm married to one....anyhow, your diet looks great and for as long as you feel good, your training intensity is good (and developing), your resting heart rate is lowering or maintaining, and you're not losing weight, it should work out great, for now....but when one of those starts to change, as they will with more distance, you're right, you'll need to up your good calories and protein being one of them.  I've read that consuming protein before an intense cardio workout can upset your stomach so don't throw a shake in there, but I would definitely throw one in within 20-30 minutes after a particularly intense session but always use a simple carb with it as well as a chewable Vit C, that helps in absorbtion to the depletion muscles.  Oh and definitely add in a shake after a strength training session.

That's my 2 cents but I'd love to hear what others are doing as well.....



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2011-02-15 11:32 AM
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Thanks grant,  that sounds like a plan to me....I've not hear of the 10:30 and 1:30 analogy before, I'm going to try that.  I struggle with keeping my intensity down, I'm fine when I'm thinking about it but once my mind starts to wonder, I find I struggle for the lap.  Our swim trainers will be starting next month with our tri-club so I'm sure that'll help too.  Yeah, I got to get back at this Smile

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Muskwa2 - 2011-02-15 10:22 AM
OspreyTriAhtlete - 2011-02-14 8:36 PM

.... He thinks I need to be taking 3 whey protein shakes thought out the day. ......On my training days heres what I take:

.......I think I will need to consume more good calories as my workouts start to get longer distances.   What are most of you doing and is whey protein shakes needed in my diet?



Three shakes a day would be pretty accessive, but weight lifters tend to be that way   I'm married to one....anyhow, your diet looks great and for as long as you feel good, your training intensity is good (and developing), your resting heart rate is lowering or maintaining, and you're not losing weight, it should work out great, for now....but when one of those starts to change, as they will with more distance, you're right, you'll need to up your good calories and protein being one of them.  I've read that consuming protein before an intense cardio workout can upset your stomach so don't throw a shake in there, but I would definitely throw one in within 20-30 minutes after a particularly intense session but always use a simple carb with it as well as a chewable Vit C, that helps in absorbtion to the depletion muscles.  Oh and definitely add in a shake after a strength training session.

That's my 2 cents but I'd love to hear what others are doing as well.....



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