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 2010-11-11 11:31 AM in reply to: #3204970 |
Elite  3223    Hendersonville |  Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan GroupMeulen - 2010-11-10 1:08 PM dropping back in..... Started computrainer classes this week. A little frustrating numbers for me, but I don't think it's out of norm and I know I'll get stronger. My avg for my last Oly was 21.6 and last sprint 23.6, so I'm hoping this winters classes will keep me over 20mph avg for the HIM. Plus, this keeps me pedaling while there will be snow on the ground around here. I'm kinda slacking again on the swimming! Need to go to the pool tonight! Cool! That computrainer class will be great for you and will make a difference during the next race season. |
| 2010-11-11 11:33 AM in reply to: #3205718 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group JG_GreenCoast - 2010-11-10 6:49 PM Ankle is all better, starting my 20 week tomorrow. Ooh I'm a bit nervous. I got my bike all tuned and fixed up nice..hows this look for a first road bike? Sorry my blackberry camera sucks. I got my bike off ebay, and rode it maybe ten miles today and it felt so nice. Just getting comfy clipping in and out, shifting, etc. So happy! Also, does anyone use TrainingPeaks? Nice bike! My athletes do use TP to log workouts. It's useful for logging power workouts, but I prefer BT for myself. |
| 2010-11-11 11:49 AM in reply to: #3206411 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group jflongo - 2010-11-11 9:39 AM I live in Rockford, MI, I'm going to turn 40 beginning of 2011, so going to tackle my first HIM!! I was bit by the Tri bug in January of this year(2010). I did an indoor tri at my gym, 20 min swim, 20 min bike, 20 min run. Then I did 3 outdoor Tri's this year and my first 1/2 Mary as well, plus some 5K, 10K, 15K runs. I have ZERO competitive swimming background, so swimming was something I focused on pretty hard this year. My indoor tri, kicked my butt big time in the pool, my first outdoor tri kicked my butt in the lake, my 2nd and 3rd outdoor tri's went much better in the lake. After my last tri in September, I took a 2 month break from swimming, I just started back in the pool this week, ouch, it's been tough. I plan on doing my first HIM in August and a 25K Run in May. I probably will do a Sprint Tri in July, one in September, and may sprinkle in some runs and another sprint or oly tri possibly. Would you recommend I start an Oly Plan now and then start the HIM Beginner plan in March? Also, are there any real good videos on Swimming Drills out there? I understand using the kick board, and the buoy between your thighs, but a little clueless beyond that. Welcome! Yes, you can do the Oly plan for now if you like, or try one of the winter maintenance plans. Don't take it too seriously, though. Save your intense focus for when you start the HIM plan and use the Oly plan now as only a guideline for training, not a do or die approach. Swimming videos can be tricky, as what woks for professional swimmers might not be appropriate for triathletes. Try doing a google search for swimming drills to maybe get some ideas of things you can try to use in your swims rather than just looking at videos of people swimming. You may want to find a book on freestyle swimming to get a list of drills that you can google. Total Immersion is one example of a book you can find at any bookstore. |
| 2010-11-11 12:21 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Alright Ladies and Gentlemen. I'm moving over here from the Oly program. My goals have changed a bit and I'd really like to get HIM ready as quickly as I possibly can. I'm still not going to do a HIM until next fall, but I figure if I'm training at that distance then Olys will be faster. I'm going to have to tweak the program to work with my schedule but I'll get it all in. A little background on me. I'm 33, live in Houston/CyFair, Texas, and have 2 little girls that provide the resistance in my jogging stroller. I'm pretty much uber competitive which comes from playing football and baseball in Texas, pretty cut throat stuff even at a young age. I've done 3 sprints and finished MOP/top third in all. Look forward to learning a lot from y'all. |
| 2010-11-11 6:23 PM in reply to: #3206660 |
Veteran 286 Rockford, MI | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Tri Take Me Away - 2010-11-11 12:49 PM jflongo - 2010-11-11 9:39 AM I live in Rockford, MI, I'm going to turn 40 beginning of 2011, so going to tackle my first HIM!! I was bit by the Tri bug in January of this year(2010). I did an indoor tri at my gym, 20 min swim, 20 min bike, 20 min run. Then I did 3 outdoor Tri's this year and my first 1/2 Mary as well, plus some 5K, 10K, 15K runs. I have ZERO competitive swimming background, so swimming was something I focused on pretty hard this year. My indoor tri, kicked my butt big time in the pool, my first outdoor tri kicked my butt in the lake, my 2nd and 3rd outdoor tri's went much better in the lake. After my last tri in September, I took a 2 month break from swimming, I just started back in the pool this week, ouch, it's been tough. I plan on doing my first HIM in August and a 25K Run in May. I probably will do a Sprint Tri in July, one in September, and may sprinkle in some runs and another sprint or oly tri possibly. Would you recommend I start an Oly Plan now and then start the HIM Beginner plan in March? Also, are there any real good videos on Swimming Drills out there? I understand using the kick board, and the buoy between your thighs, but a little clueless beyond that. Welcome! Yes, you can do the Oly plan for now if you like, or try one of the winter maintenance plans. Don't take it too seriously, though. Save your intense focus for when you start the HIM plan and use the Oly plan now as only a guideline for training, not a do or die approach. Swimming videos can be tricky, as what woks for professional swimmers might not be appropriate for triathletes. Try doing a google search for swimming drills to maybe get some ideas of things you can try to use in your swims rather than just looking at videos of people swimming. You may want to find a book on freestyle swimming to get a list of drills that you can google. Total Immersion is one example of a book you can find at any bookstore. I'll try and hit the Library tomorrow, thanks :-) |
| 2010-11-11 11:10 PM in reply to: #3206411 |
Member 193 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group jflongo - 2010-11-11 9:39 AM I live in Rockford, MI, I'm going to turn 40 beginning of 2011, so going to tackle my first HIM!! I was bit by the Tri bug in January of this year(2010). I did an indoor tri at my gym, 20 min swim, 20 min bike, 20 min run. Then I did 3 outdoor Tri's this year and my first 1/2 Mary as well, plus some 5K, 10K, 15K runs. I have ZERO competitive swimming background, so swimming was something I focused on pretty hard this year. My indoor tri, kicked my butt big time in the pool, my first outdoor tri kicked my butt in the lake, my 2nd and 3rd outdoor tri's went much better in the lake. After my last tri in September, I took a 2 month break from swimming, I just started back in the pool this week, ouch, it's been tough. I plan on doing my first HIM in August and a 25K Run in May. I probably will do a Sprint Tri in July, one in September, and may sprinkle in some runs and another sprint or oly tri possibly. Would you recommend I start an Oly Plan now and then start the HIM Beginner plan in March? Also, are there any real good videos on Swimming Drills out there? I understand using the kick board, and the buoy between your thighs, but a little clueless beyond that. Welcome  Congrats on joining the club |
| 2010-11-12 4:39 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
New user 3 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Hi all, I have 3 A races this year, olympic races on 4th of june and 5th of july and half ironman the 4th of september. I was wondering if it's wise to start now with this plan and make it longer than 20 weeks adding 8 weeks base2 and 8 weeks base3 instead of 4 weeks each, so to be ready and test myself in the olympic races in june and july before the half ironman. Thanks |
| 2010-11-12 1:21 PM in reply to: #3207587 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Salvo - 2010-11-12 4:39 AM Hi all, I have 3 A races this year, olympic races on 4th of june and 5th of july and half ironman the 4th of september. I was wondering if it's wise to start now with this plan and make it longer than 20 weeks adding 8 weeks base2 and 8 weeks base3 instead of 4 weeks each, so to be ready and test myself in the olympic races in june and july before the half ironman. Thanks Welcome to BT! So glad to have you participating in the forum! Since the half ironman is your most important race of the year, make sure that your training plan puts reflects that it is the top priority. Start the 20 week plan twenty weeks out from the HIM, which would be mid April. Since you have your first Oly race in June, you could start an Oly plan to get you to the start of your HIM plan, and understand that you will not be tapering for your Oly races, or you can start the HIM plan a month or two before April and just do the first month once or twice. One important thing to keep in mind is that mid April is when you have to be very dedicated and committed to your training. That's when motivation is the most important. Don't kill your motivation now by very strictly following a training plan to the letter when all you really need to do is keep up some consistent training in order to be fully capable of handling your first week of that HIM plan in April. Best of luck to you! Let me know if I can help further. |
| 2010-11-12 4:35 PM in reply to: #3207309 |
Veteran 118 Washington D.C. | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group jflongo - 2010-11-11 7:23 PM Tri Take Me Away - 2010-11-11 12:49 PM jflongo - 2010-11-11 9:39 AM I live in Rockford, MI, I'm going to turn 40 beginning of 2011, so going to tackle my first HIM!! I was bit by the Tri bug in January of this year(2010). I did an indoor tri at my gym, 20 min swim, 20 min bike, 20 min run. Then I did 3 outdoor Tri's this year and my first 1/2 Mary as well, plus some 5K, 10K, 15K runs. I have ZERO competitive swimming background, so swimming was something I focused on pretty hard this year. My indoor tri, kicked my butt big time in the pool, my first outdoor tri kicked my butt in the lake, my 2nd and 3rd outdoor tri's went much better in the lake. After my last tri in September, I took a 2 month break from swimming, I just started back in the pool this week, ouch, it's been tough. I plan on doing my first HIM in August and a 25K Run in May. I probably will do a Sprint Tri in July, one in September, and may sprinkle in some runs and another sprint or oly tri possibly. Would you recommend I start an Oly Plan now and then start the HIM Beginner plan in March? Also, are there any real good videos on Swimming Drills out there? I understand using the kick board, and the buoy between your thighs, but a little clueless beyond that. Welcome! Yes, you can do the Oly plan for now if you like, or try one of the winter maintenance plans. Don't take it too seriously, though. Save your intense focus for when you start the HIM plan and use the Oly plan now as only a guideline for training, not a do or die approach. Swimming videos can be tricky, as what woks for professional swimmers might not be appropriate for triathletes. Try doing a google search for swimming drills to maybe get some ideas of things you can try to use in your swims rather than just looking at videos of people swimming. You may want to find a book on freestyle swimming to get a list of drills that you can google. Total Immersion is one example of a book you can find at any bookstore. I'll try and hit the Library tomorrow, thanks :-) Check out SWIMSMOOTH.com and look up triathlon swimming technique on youtube as well. |
| 2010-11-12 4:40 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
New user 3 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group thanks for your answer. As you suggested I will start with a winter maintenance training now in the winter and an olympic plan to get to the start of the HIM plan in mid april. |
| 2010-11-12 5:03 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Extreme Veteran 529 Harbor City/Torrance/Carson | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Man am I slow in swimming. I swam 1.2 miles non-stop this morning and finished at 38:25 which equates to 2:27/100m. I think I owe myself a swimming lesson or two to improve on my technique. I got the endurance to swim the distance but boy is that a "crawling" pace... |
| 2010-11-12 8:41 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Expert 977 Huntington Beach | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Just keep training, Just keep training, training, training, just keep training. I'm only on week 2, but feel like I am eating, sleeping, and working training. |
| 2010-11-12 8:48 PM in reply to: #3209099 |
Member 193 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group akrenik - 2010-11-12 8:41 PM Just keep training, Just keep training, training, training, just keep training. I'm only on week 2, but feel like I am eating, sleeping, and working training. exactly  and I kinda like it...but I should be careful with the eating thing... |
| 2010-11-13 10:58 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
Expert 977 Huntington Beach | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Sitting at a computer when I should be out training! Grr! Waiting for the Sears delivery truck. Was hopin ghe would get here before my running group left at 8am. No luck. Then was hoping he would get here before my biking group left at 9am. No luck.  Guess I am going to have to head out later by myself. Sigh |
| 2010-11-13 3:57 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Veteran 259 Austin, TX | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Just thought I'd let folks know that I used this plan and successfully completed my first HIM last weekend. Run didn't go so well, but that might have been even more of a mental failing than anything physical. Should have tried for even more calories on the bike. I thought the plan worked well. I did longer rides than it called for so I think that helped but I also like biking. Work and life got in the way towards the end so I didn't get in quite as much running volume as I needed (hmm, I wonder why I had problems on the run...) So what's next??? |
| 2010-11-14 10:48 PM in reply to: #3208938 |
Extreme Veteran 872 Tx | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group arkmann - 2010-11-12 5:03 PM Man am I slow in swimming. I swam 1.2 miles non-stop this morning and finished at 38:25 which equates to 2:27/100m. I think I owe myself a swimming lesson or two to improve on my technique. I got the endurance to swim the distance but boy is that a "crawling" pace... I think your math may be off... If you swam a mile in 38:25, then your pace was under 2:00/100 meters. Or did you do a mile in 48:25? |
| 2010-11-14 10:52 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Extreme Veteran 872 Tx | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Hello guys and gals! I just got into tri's this year and did 3 sprints. I'm going to try to make the jump to HIM Galveston. It's in April, so I will start this plan in about a week and after a few weeks I'll make the call and decide if I'm signing up or not... I just spent 2 hours reading through this thread, so I'm pretty motivated. I also just got this... (photo1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- photo1.jpg (28KB - 22 downloads) |
| 2010-11-14 11:08 PM in reply to: #3052895 |
Extreme Veteran 872 Tx | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Okay, I've got questions: 1. I read earlier that days with 2 workouts were not meant to be bricks. So, are there any bricks in this training program? If so, which week(s)? 2. I've read about run/walk strategies. My run is what I'm concerned about. I've been experimenting with a run/walk every 30 seconds alternating. What are the most common run/walk paces? 3. My diet sucks! I eat at Chik-fil-a about 4 times a week... lol. I'm sort of a picky eater. I've read lots of threads about healthy eating, but it always seems "general". Is there any resource that gives a list of specific food that is good to eat while training? Also, is it okay to have 1 coke a day? Also, I eat a bowl of Lucky Charms every night... do I need to stop that? Ah! The eating is going to be so frustrating! |
| 2010-11-15 12:36 AM in reply to: #3210810 |
Extreme Veteran 529 Harbor City/Torrance/Carson | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group I think you are right!!! I used the calculator on the link below and it came up at 1:59/100m which should be MOP right? I will most likely take lessons so that I can chop off a little bit off my swim time. By the way I did swim it in 38:25. By the way, which Felt bike is that? http://www.bx3.com/phil/tri/tricalc.asp pistuo - 2010-11-14 10:48 PM arkmann - 2010-11-12 5:03 PM Man am I slow in swimming. I swam 1.2 miles non-stop this morning and finished at 38:25 which equates to 2:27/100m. I think I owe myself a swimming lesson or two to improve on my technique. I got the endurance to swim the distance but boy is that a "crawling" pace... I think your math may be off... If you swam a mile in 38:25, then your pace was under 2:00/100 meters. Or did you do a mile in 48:25? |
| 2010-11-15 8:30 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Just finished my first Oly. I was really close to my goal time, but mentally, the run was brutal. My computer was on the fritz, so I didn't know I was biking within 0.2mph of my goal pace. The bike was great, it just got boring towards the end. I talked to a friend afterward who said that I probably didn't eat enough, and that also affected my race (breakfast, 1 Gu just after the halfway mark on the bike). I was hoping this race would convince me to sign up for the HIM in FL in May... but I'm not sure it did. I guess I'm looking for insight as to how this plan will help me be mentally and physically prepared for a 70.3... |
| 2010-11-15 9:33 AM in reply to: #3208938 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group arkmann - 2010-11-12 5:03 PM Man am I slow in swimming. I swam 1.2 miles non-stop this morning and finished at 38:25 which equates to 2:27/100m. I think I owe myself a swimming lesson or two to improve on my technique. I got the endurance to swim the distance but boy is that a "crawling" pace... You have great endurance....enjoy it! The speed will come with time by doing more interval work in your swim workouts. |
| 2010-11-15 9:34 AM in reply to: #3209418 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group akrenik - 2010-11-13 10:58 AM Sitting at a computer when I should be out training! Grr! Waiting for the Sears delivery truck. Was hopin ghe would get here before my running group left at 8am. No luck. Then was hoping he would get here before my biking group left at 9am. No luck. Guess I am going to have to head out later by myself. SighARGH...I hate days like that! |
| 2010-11-15 9:36 AM in reply to: #3209656 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group ewillmore - 2010-11-13 3:57 PM Just thought I'd let folks know that I used this plan and successfully completed my first HIM last weekend. Run didn't go so well, but that might have been even more of a mental failing than anything physical. Should have tried for even more calories on the bike. I thought the plan worked well. I did longer rides than it called for so I think that helped but I also like biking. Work and life got in the way towards the end so I didn't get in quite as much running volume as I needed (hmm, I wonder why I had problems on the run...) So what's next??? CONGRATULATIONS!! Thank you for dropping by and sharing your experience! |
| 2010-11-15 9:58 AM in reply to: #3210820 |
Elite 3223 Hendersonville | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group pistuo - 2010-11-14 11:08 PM Okay, I've got questions: 1. I read earlier that days with 2 workouts were not meant to be bricks. So, are there any bricks in this training program? If so, which week(s)? 2. I've read about run/walk strategies. My run is what I'm concerned about. I've been experimenting with a run/walk every 30 seconds alternating. What are the most common run/walk paces? 3. My diet sucks! I eat at Chik-fil-a about 4 times a week... lol. I'm sort of a picky eater. I've read lots of threads about healthy eating, but it always seems "general". Is there any resource that gives a list of specific food that is good to eat while training? Also, is it okay to have 1 coke a day? Also, I eat a bowl of Lucky Charms every night... do I need to stop that? Ah! The eating is going to be so frustrating! Welcome to the thread!! 1. You can make the bike/run workouts a brick any time you like, but you really don't need more than 1 every week or two. Pick one of the 1 hour bike/30 minute runs and try to brick it. OR, add 10-20 minutes running at the end of your long bike once every two weeks. 2. People do anywhere from 2/1 to 10/1 as run/walk. As your fitness improves, you may find that your run intervals become longer. You may start out at 3/1 and gradually get up to 10/1 before race day. 3. It depends on what you mean by "ok". Is it good for you? No. Is it going to help you get ready for the race? No. Is it going to prevent you from getting ready for the race? No. But it is certainly not in your best interest! The reason you can't find specific recommendations is that everyone is different and needs different things from their nutrition. Big picture guidelines: eat lots of protein, moderate fat, and moderate carbs (lots of fruits and vegetables). Avoid processed foods and shop on the outside aisles of the grocery store. Highest carb meal should be post-exercise. COOK! |
| 2010-11-15 10:08 AM in reply to: #3052895 |
Pro 4723 CyFair | Subject: RE: Beginner 1/2 Ironman Plan Group Starting up week 3. Need to figure out how to get my swim workouts in. Only pools are outdoor and I train at about 5 am. Might be a bit cold. |
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