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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() WHO'S DOING WHAT WHEN --- May Here's what I think I know: MANDY May 8 Polar Bear Triathlon Brunswick, ME 525 yard pool swim -- 11.5 mile bike -- 3 mile run DENISE May 23 Land Between the Lakes Triathlon Albert Lea, MN 0.25 mile swim -- 19.8 mile bike -- 4.2 mile run MARK --- same as Denise --- (yes?) ME May 23 Columbia Triathlon Ellicott City, MD 1500m swim -- 41km bike -- 10km run |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MANDY - How long am I going to keep giggling at your explanation of your attention span?? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dwayne - 2010-05-02 2:54 PM Kasia-Good call on the 9:30 we did 10: 30 and trails right after or getting out of the water were so slick you could barely run and I'm sure by the evening they were probably impossible to walk on Dwayne, Thanks for the heads up. We'll be the second wave, so hopefully it's not going to be too bad. Should be really fun, thought. ![]() Kasia |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Steve, Nope. Not cleaning the bike anytime soon. So take your time. The chain's not sludgy, just dirty and black whenever I touch it. The consistency is pretty normal (at least what I think is normal for a bike chain) so the only thing "wrong" with it is the color. Kasia |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-05-05 3:39 PM MANDY - How long am I going to keep giggling at your explanation of your attention span?? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ha! Glad I made you laugh - I am like Dory on Finding Nemo sometimes... ![]() AND I have the Sugarloaf Marathon May 16, that should be interesting. Original plan was to BQ, PR, etc. Now the plan is to just have a good time (meaning fun time, not fast time). I have been biking a lot but haven't ran hardly at all in 2 weeks because of the calf. I think it is maybe sort of getting better a little kind of. Mandy |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm doing the Summer Open Sprint on May 23rd. Longmont, CO 750 yard OWS -- 12 mile bike -- 5k run And getting nervous already... Edited by augeremt 2010-05-05 2:48 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TRACEY - I will think about the "clicking" and see if I can figure out where that is likely to be coming from -- specifically. I sometimes get clicking in my right elbow when I do concentration curls, but only rarely in my shoulders. The couple of things I've read recently about lateral dumbbell raises is (a) to not raise above shoulder level, and (b) to raise only as how as you can without causing pain. Having read those, I have opted for (a) just to be on th safe side. Another thing I'm reading right now says that "all barbell extensions for the shoulders must be performed to the front with the elbows slightly forward". Does that description resonate with you in any way? I guess I don't do barbell extensions for my shoulders, as I can't picture that too well. I don't know if I have mentioned this before, but when I crashed and separated my shoulder last June, my recovery was much quicker than expected. My doctor thought this was due to the work I do for my shoulders, so it was very nice to hear that all that effort paid dividends. Keep those muscles strong and responsive! On a related swimming note, stay away from hand paddels as long as you have any shoulder discomfort. Paddles can overload the shoulders, and often lead to shoulder problems (especially in people who have poor technique). I suspect your technique is pretty good, however, and the weight work you do will probbaly help you work safely with paddles (if you do so, or even want to) once your shoulder is at about 100% again. How is it feeling today? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DENISE - Ha! You did it again -- got us two Steves mixed up! I'm the SteveB. If it helps, think B as in beautiful. (No? Oh, well....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KASIA and MANDY - Ack! I shoulda known better! BAD Steve! Thank you for those, though. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MANDY - Now you've just made my giggles worse with the comparison with Dory!! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-05-05 3:56 PM MANDY - Now you've just made my giggles worse with the comparison with Dory!! Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. ![]() |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() MANDY again - Your almost-namesake (Mindy) from my other group has the following, from Dory, as the "signature" at the bottom of each of her posts: "Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim." Just so you know! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Steve - That is so funny that Mindy has that at the bottom of her posts! I always say that is what is going through my head in the swim portion of a tri. ![]() Mandy |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-05-05 3:35 PM WHO'S DOING WHAT WHEN --- May Here's what I think I know: MANDY May 8 Polar Bear Triathlon Brunswick, ME 525 yard pool swim -- 11.5 mile bike -- 3 mile run DENISE May 23 Land Between the Lakes Triathlon Albert Lea, MN 0.25 mile swim -- 19.8 mile bike -- 4.2 mile run MARK --- same as Denise --- (yes?) ME May 23 Columbia Triathlon Ellicott City, MD 1500m swim -- 41km bike -- 10km run I'm doing a 5k on the 16th. Does that count?? ![]() Tracey |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-05-05 3:51 PM TRACEY - I will think about the "clicking" and see if I can figure out where that is likely to be coming from -- specifically. I sometimes get clicking in my right elbow when I do concentration curls, but only rarely in my shoulders. The couple of things I've read recently about lateral dumbbell raises is (a) to not raise above shoulder level, and (b) to raise only as how as you can without causing pain. Having read those, I have opted for (a) just to be on th safe side. Another thing I'm reading right now says that "all barbell extensions for the shoulders must be performed to the front with the elbows slightly forward". Does that description resonate with you in any way? I guess I don't do barbell extensions for my shoulders, as I can't picture that too well. I don't know if I have mentioned this before, but when I crashed and separated my shoulder last June, my recovery was much quicker than expected. My doctor thought this was due to the work I do for my shoulders, so it was very nice to hear that all that effort paid dividends. Keep those muscles strong and responsive! On a related swimming note, stay away from hand paddels as long as you have any shoulder discomfort. Paddles can overload the shoulders, and often lead to shoulder problems (especially in people who have poor technique). I suspect your technique is pretty good, however, and the weight work you do will probbaly help you work safely with paddles (if you do so, or even want to) once your shoulder is at about 100% again. How is it feeling today? With the lateral raises, I always try to stay at or below shoulder level. It's the presses that seem to get me. Not sure if I know what a barbell extension is? The only shoulder move I do with a barbell is the clean and press. I've never used paddles. In fact, I've pretty much given up using any sort of "equipment" in my swims (fins, kickboards, etc.) Shoulder is feeling fine right now. So I think you're right when you say that crisis was averted! Unfortunately though I seem to have caught whatever my son had last week. I've been fighting a cough/cold all week, and today I developed a fever. So, I guess I must take it easy for a few days... Tracey |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-05-05 2:53 PM DENISE - Ha! You did it again -- got us two Steves mixed up! I'm the SteveB. If it helps, think B as in beautiful. (No? Oh, well....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I don't know why I keep doing that! I'm just going to use plain Steve from now on and you guys can figure it out. Denise |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Friday Rain and snow likely. Highs 40 to 45. East winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent. Oh poop! Snow. Denise |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() latestarter - 2010-05-04 9:20 AM STEVEA or B, I did my first session of long hill climbs today - starting week 9 build phase. It said to do them at V02 max intensity (a hard, but controlled pace that you could hold for 6-8 minutes). The hill should take 5 minutes to climb. Finding a hill that long around here is a feat in itself but we thought we knew one that might work and it was good enough - took me 4'20" to climb. I'm thinking that the purpose of this session is to get the HR into the zone and keep it there for the duration? rather than caring about how fast you are going up the hill? As usual, the winds were crazy - 31 km/hr headwind up the hill. If there had been little or no wind, I would have gotten to the top quicker. What would you recommend me to do if I can't find a hill that takes more than 3 minutes to climb? Why do they want it to be 5 minutes? I think I will be doing this workout for the next few Tuesdays. Thanks. Hey! Just my two cents - don't sweat the details on this too much. If the goal is to work on HR, then you can do that on flats as well - maybe a longer run-up to the hill itself, pulling a heavier gear and working hard? I find I prefer to do V02 work on hills (running or riding) as it's easier on the joints (especially when running) - but unless you are concerned about hill-specific mechanics in stride or riding form, you can benefit just as much from doing V02 work on flatter roads. In the end, if your HR target is, say, 150, then to a certain extent, who cares how you get it to 150, just that you do and keep it there for the prescribed period? I think the only real concern about not having a big or long enough hill is if you are going to be racing at a location that will have that hill - but what you are really talking about there is building endurance and efficient mechanics for hill work. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thall0672 - 2010-05-05 2:43 PM stevebradley - 2010-05-05 3:35 PM WHO'S DOING WHAT WHEN --- May Here's what I think I know: MANDY May 8 Polar Bear Triathlon Brunswick, ME 525 yard pool swim -- 11.5 mile bike -- 3 mile run DENISE May 23 Land Between the Lakes Triathlon Albert Lea, MN 0.25 mile swim -- 19.8 mile bike -- 4.2 mile run MARK --- same as Denise --- (yes?) ME May 23 Columbia Triathlon Ellicott City, MD 1500m swim -- 41km bike -- 10km run I'm doing a 5k on the 16th. Does that count?? ![]() Mandy, Denise, Tracey and Steve B - good luck this weekend! Give em' hell!! Looking forward to hearing about your races on Monday! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sounds like a busy May around here! I was tossing around the idea of doing a super-sprint race on mother's day which I've done the last two years ... DIANE was planning on doing this one until her injuries. Was actually my first tri ever a couple of years ago. Waiting to find out the baseball tournament schedule for Sunday before I commit. Start back with my running group on Saturday ... can't wait to start up again with them. MANDY, could luck with your race this weekend! LISA |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2010-05-05 1:53 PM DENISE - Ha! You did it again -- got us two Steves mixed up! I'm the SteveB. If it helps, think B as in beautiful. (No? Oh, well....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Or B as in bada$$, but I'm pretty sure that would apply to the both of you. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SAquavia - 2010-05-05 4:19 PM latestarter - 2010-05-04 9:20 AM STEVEA or B, I did my first session of long hill climbs today - starting week 9 build phase. It said to do them at V02 max intensity (a hard, but controlled pace that you could hold for 6-8 minutes). The hill should take 5 minutes to climb. Finding a hill that long around here is a feat in itself but we thought we knew one that might work and it was good enough - took me 4'20" to climb. I'm thinking that the purpose of this session is to get the HR into the zone and keep it there for the duration? rather than caring about how fast you are going up the hill? As usual, the winds were crazy - 31 km/hr headwind up the hill. If there had been little or no wind, I would have gotten to the top quicker. What would you recommend me to do if I can't find a hill that takes more than 3 minutes to climb? Why do they want it to be 5 minutes? I think I will be doing this workout for the next few Tuesdays. Thanks. Hey! Just my two cents - don't sweat the details on this too much. If the goal is to work on HR, then you can do that on flats as well - maybe a longer run-up to the hill itself, pulling a heavier gear and working hard? I find I prefer to do V02 work on hills (running or riding) as it's easier on the joints (especially when running) - but unless you are concerned about hill-specific mechanics in stride or riding form, you can benefit just as much from doing V02 work on flatter roads. In the end, if your HR target is, say, 150, then to a certain extent, who cares how you get it to 150, just that you do and keep it there for the prescribed period? I think the only real concern about not having a big or long enough hill is if you are going to be racing at a location that will have that hill - but what you are really talking about there is building endurance and efficient mechanics for hill work. Thanks, Steve. I have this concern as well, except I have enough hills in the area, they just go on forever and recovery is usually spent coasting downhill much farther than I went up it. So I've been doing the little hills as they come up during a ride at VO2 max and doing the rest of my VO2 max work on pseudo-flats. Glad to hear that makes sense ![]() Kasia |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() thall0672 - 2010-05-05 3:43 PM stevebradley - 2010-05-05 3:35 PM WHO'S DOING WHAT WHEN --- May Here's what I think I know: MANDY May 8 Polar Bear Triathlon Brunswick, ME 525 yard pool swim -- 11.5 mile bike -- 3 mile run DENISE May 23 Land Between the Lakes Triathlon Albert Lea, MN 0.25 mile swim -- 19.8 mile bike -- 4.2 mile run MARK --- same as Denise --- (yes?) ME May 23 Columbia Triathlon Ellicott City, MD 1500m swim -- 41km bike -- 10km run I'm doing a 5k on the 16th. Does that count?? ![]() Totally, Tracey. And looks like your body's looking out for your shoulder by "forcing" you to rest a bit longer. Heal up and feel better! Kasia |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Went for a swim yesterday and accidentally did an extra lap of drills because I lost count, which is good on two points: 1) I think I've finally figured out the catch-up drill. I got my stroke count down from 26 to 21 per length keeping practically the same pace (2 sec slower with the drill, but I felt much less tired). 2) It's the longest I've ever swam in one session. Woo hoo! And, another accomplishment was pushing through the "I have no desire to be here and should just go home" thoughts not even halfway through the workout by using SteveA's slightly modified thoughts from IMSG: "No one forced you to sign up so shut up and swim." It worked, and I even got a few negative splits on the VO2 max intervals. Yay for telling myself off underwater. Today was the bike and I totally chickened out of a long ride. My quads were exhausted and didn't feel any warmer or better by mile 4, so I decided to change routes and did about half of what I had planned to ride. I still pushed it hard, but for a shorter distance. Looking at the past two days, I don't think this week is shaping up to be good workout-wise. Maybe tomorrow will be another rest day? Or a modified run day? We'll see how the quads feel in the morning. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() augeremt - 2010-05-05 7:41 PM Went for a swim yesterday and accidentally did an extra lap of drills because I lost count, which is good on two points: 1) I think I've finally figured out the catch-up drill. I got my stroke count down from 26 to 21 per length keeping practically the same pace (2 sec slower with the drill, but I felt much less tired). 2) It's the longest I've ever swam in one session. Woo hoo! And, another accomplishment was pushing through the "I have no desire to be here and should just go home" thoughts not even halfway through the workout by using SteveA's slightly modified thoughts from IMSG: "No one forced you to sign up so shut up and swim." It worked, and I even got a few negative splits on the VO2 max intervals. Yay for telling myself off underwater. Today was the bike and I totally chickened out of a long ride. My quads were exhausted and didn't feel any warmer or better by mile 4, so I decided to change routes and did about half of what I had planned to ride. I still pushed it hard, but for a shorter distance. Looking at the past two days, I don't think this week is shaping up to be good workout-wise. Maybe tomorrow will be another rest day? Or a modified run day? We'll see how the quads feel in the morning. Congrats on the swimming progress Kasia! |
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