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 2012-01-16 8:43 PM in reply to: #3993608 |
Master  1730     Straight outta Compton |  Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming!wendy109 - 2012-01-16 3:49 PM Thanks Matt- ok, here goes. What is Z1-Z2? I don't have a heart rate monitor, I've heard too many negative things about them to drop the $ for one. SO, what is a good way to monitor my HR without stopping, or is that even possible? And yeah, strength training is a MUST for me. I've been strength training for a while now and I'd give up training for a tri if it meant I had to give up my weight lifting. although I have had to modify it somewhat to fit into my sched, and to not go for bulk, but for endurance and strenght. And the thing about my rest day during the week, good point. I do live in the bible belt, so it will be interesting to see how that pans out. When I went for my swim today I talked to a friend who says "oh, I hear so and so is doing that as well!" DAMN I LOVE living in a small town!! so, I'm going to talk to her tomorrow to see if she's interested. If not, I'll stick to it on my own. I'm a dog on a bone when I set a goal. With a friend or on my own, it's getting done. One other thing. TOday instead of swimming the lanes of the pool, I swam in a square (40'x20') so I couldn't use the wall or stop. I could tell a HUGE difference and it added 5 mins to my time. OOPS! Better to have realized it now, I suppose, while I still have time to fix it. I may have the swimming licked (or close to it) but I know crapola about biking!! I don't even know the appropriate gears to use and when. But, that's what I have all of you for. And, I'll figure it out as I go. I'm just that type of person Wendy- thanks for asking! I purposely dropped "Z1-Z2" so someone would ask or help out There are 5 heart rate training zones (Z1-Z5): Here's a link to a diagram: You want to use Zone 1 and 2 to build your base, where everyone is right now in this group (for the most part). The calories expended will go towards burning calories. It's a little challenging to keep that HR up for over an hour starting out, but it's where big gains will be made. |
NO EXCUSES!! They're like arm pits. We've all got a couple and they all stink!| 2012-01-16 8:46 PM in reply to: #3993987 |
| New user 38 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! suh-weet! thanks!! and, I'll always ask. I'm not afraid to ask questions, especially when we're all playing on a pretty level field and i'm sure no one else knows either  |
| 2012-01-16 9:07 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Member 445 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! I've done research on zones and heart rate in the past and I'm just not sure how this works for me. I have a very high resting heart rate and it's not unusual for my HR to be very elevated for extended periods of time. When training for my half marathon streak last summer (4 halves in 28 days) it was common for my HR to be well over 200 for a duration of 10+ minutes. It was only when I noticed it was elevated that I would slow down to a walk until I could get it back down to the 150's or so before I would start running again. My resting HR before my run today was 121 and even though I only did 2 miles, it got up to 181. |
| 2012-01-16 11:15 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Extreme Veteran 377 Ogallala, Nebraska | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Today was supposed to be my off day but tonight I couldn't take sitting around so put an hour on the bike on the indoor trainer. Thankfully the weather isn't supposed to last. I think I got spoiled with 65 degree weather in January. |
| 2012-01-16 11:16 PM in reply to: #3994036 |
Member 102 Round Rock | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! What has your Doc said about your resting heart rate? That is way high for a resting heart rate. If you have not had it checked you would be wise to. Bryan (former ER nurse) Now hospice only |
| 2012-01-17 7:26 AM in reply to: #3944485 |
Regular 89 Winder, GA | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Mmez.. Everyone is a tad different with HR, but I would inquire with my doctor just to make sure all is well. My resting HR is mid 80's with my max that I have seen in the 170 range. Iam a 230lbs, 36yo former smoker. I was out of shape last year so went and got a check up, even doing a stress test to make sure I didnt keel over with something I didnt know about. Recommend it to everyone so that they can have peace of mind that all is well even if their numbers seem elevated. |
| 2012-01-17 8:16 AM in reply to: #3994036 |
Member 123 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! mmez - 2012-01-16 10:07 PM I've done research on zones and heart rate in the past and I'm just not sure how this works for me. I have a very high resting heart rate and it's not unusual for my HR to be very elevated for extended periods of time. When training for my half marathon streak last summer (4 halves in 28 days) it was common for my HR to be well over 200 for a duration of 10+ minutes. It was only when I noticed it was elevated that I would slow down to a walk until I could get it back down to the 150's or so before I would start running again. My resting HR before my run today was 121 and even though I only did 2 miles, it got up to 181. Just to echo everyone else, I'd go to a MD with that high of a resting HR. I'm training for a HM and my resting heart rate is around 55. A 121 RHR is way high! I'm not a doctor or a nurse, but I do know that 121 RHR is way out of normal range. Even wikipedia says so: |
| 2012-01-17 9:32 AM in reply to: #3994036 |
| New user 6 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! As a nurse and somone who has had issues with a high heart rate, I would rec. you talk with your doctor about your high heart rate. Also how are you measuring it? I know I use a heart monitor and sometime it will pick up double beats and actually register higher than it is. I would check it manually to see if they correlate. The other thing is dehydration can cause you to have a high heart rate. If you did that many 1/2s in a short time make sure you are staying well hydrated. |
| 2012-01-17 9:55 AM in reply to: #3944485 |
Member 445 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Just to alleviate any worries, I am medical and work in a hospital. I have been checked out to include a slew to tests as well as wearing a cardiac monitor for a while. I have also been required to work-out with said monitor. I am military and have been thoroughly checked out by cardiology. Everything has come back as "within normal limits" (albeit on the high end of normal). I've been like this my entire life. Thanks for all the concern - you guys are awesome! Just curious how I use my numbers to fall into the Z-1 through Z-5 ranges... |
| 2012-01-17 2:02 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Extreme Veteran 377 Ogallala, Nebraska | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! It appears the indoor pool near here is going to be opening in a week or so and I was looking for suggestions on my time at the pool. As its looking now, I'll basically have 2 days a week I can make it (its 78 miles away from my house). One day I will have about 1-2 hours of available time. Saturday I can basically be there as long as I want. Its possible that work will allow me to be there another time a week on occasion but not often enough to try to plan for 3 swims a week. What would be the best use of my time there given the time constraints? My main goal is to be able to make a 1.2 mile swim without missing the cutoff Another good place to try to find upcoming triathlons is http://www.runningintheusa.com. Edited by stevesflyshop 2012-01-17 3:17 PM |
| 2012-01-17 4:12 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
| New user 38 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Got in a 5 mile bike ride followed by an immediate 1 mile run. Man, that sucked! Good thing I'm a dandy swimmer, and decent runner because I bike like doo doo!! |
| 2012-01-17 5:18 PM in reply to: #3993559 |
New user 235 Western North Carolina | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Just after you started talking about paddles, a guy who regularly swims at the Y at the same time I do told me I should try them to help with my pull. I didn't even know the Y had paddles, but they do have a secret stash  I've worked with them twice now and I'm starting to see a big difference. Next, the fins and the buoy! Bryan, I'm glad you asked Paddles- really assist with getting your hands to enter the water properly, and they assist keeping your hands in proper position through your pull. They're pretty remarkable for making your stroke better. I used to laugh at people that were wearing them, and now I'm a believer. They're also really cheap. I think the Speedo ones for freestyle you can get at swimoutlet.com for less than $20. They're a great investment. Fins- I'm heavily biased towards the Finis Zoomers. They are great for developing a kick for new swimmers, and also for strengthening quads and calves of experienced swimmers. I love doing 500 to 600 yard kick sets with mine~ they really make for a great workout. Pull Buoy- this sits in between your thighs during sets, and prevents you from kicking. If your upper body is weak, this little invention is a lifesaver. I have a strong upper body and I love doing pull sets... definitely would recommend everyone start using one and doing and least a 500 pull set every workout. |
| 2012-01-17 9:38 PM in reply to: #3995851 |
Regular 89 Winder, GA | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! wendy109 - 2012-01-17 5:12 PM Got in a 5 mile bike ride followed by an immediate 1 mile run. Man, that sucked! Good thing I'm a dandy swimmer, and decent runner because I bike like doo doo!! Doing bricks already.. It gets easier just like running and swimming. |
| 2012-01-17 9:41 PM in reply to: #3995944 |
Regular 89 Winder, GA | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Jenheaslip - 2012-01-17 6:18 PM Just after you started talking about paddles, a guy who regularly swims at the Y at the same time I do told me I should try them to help with my pull. I didn't even know the Y had paddles, but they do have a secret stash I've worked with them twice now and I'm starting to see a big difference. Next, the fins and the buoy! Bryan, I'm glad you asked Paddles- really assist with getting your hands to enter the water properly, and they assist keeping your hands in proper position through your pull. They're pretty remarkable for making your stroke better. I used to laugh at people that were wearing them, and now I'm a believer. They're also really cheap. I think the Speedo ones for freestyle you can get at swimoutlet.com for less than $20. They're a great investment. Fins- I'm heavily biased towards the Finis Zoomers. They are great for developing a kick for new swimmers, and also for strengthening quads and calves of experienced swimmers. I love doing 500 to 600 yard kick sets with mine~ they really make for a great workout. Pull Buoy- this sits in between your thighs during sets, and prevents you from kicking. If your upper body is weak, this little invention is a lifesaver. I have a strong upper body and I love doing pull sets... definitely would recommend everyone start using one and doing and least a 500 pull set every workout.
Great Job Jen, looks like you are making some good strides in the pool. I have a strong upper body also but Iam still interested in the pull sets when I start swimming. |
| 2012-01-17 11:01 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Extreme Veteran 377 Ogallala, Nebraska | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! I wanted to say thanks to everyone and especially to Matt for letting me be a part of this group. The information I've learned here is wonderful but for me the best thing is the "accountability." Today was one of those days at work and when I got to the gym I couldn't remember my planned workout (since I screwed up my schedule yesterday). I decided to do a brick workout. I pushed harder than I would normally on the spinning bike and then started the run. About a mile into the run I was thinking about calling it a day when I thought "what would the group think if I quit early (I had planned 30 minutes on bike and 5k run). Not that anyone knew my plans but it was that thought that kept me going for another 2.1 miles. |
| 2012-01-17 11:01 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Master 1730 Straight outta Compton | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Hey Guys! Just read your posts- I'm working a new job and kind of out of the loop. Keep gettin' R' done... PM me or FB me if you need advice. Matt |
| 2012-01-17 11:24 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Member 445 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! Hey Matt - Didn't know if you would see it on FB, but when that swimming picture had been taken, I had only been swimming for about 2 months. I started taking lessons (learning how to swim) at the very tail end of June and I think that was from 7 September. Hopefully since I've been swimming a little longer now, my sighting will be a little better come February! Edited by mmez 2012-01-18 9:37 AM |
| 2012-01-18 1:36 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Master 1730 Straight outta Compton | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! I'm bricking tonight, too! 30 minutes high cadence ride followed by a 45 minute Z1-Z2 run. I love this workout, because I burn a lot of calories which means I get to eat a lot tonight! |
| 2012-01-18 1:39 PM in reply to: #3996437 |
Master 1730 Straight outta Compton | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! stevesflyshop - 2012-01-17 10:01 PM I wanted to say thanks to everyone and especially to Matt for letting me be a part of this group. The information I've learned here is wonderful but for me the best thing is the "accountability." Today was one of those days at work and when I got to the gym I couldn't remember my planned workout (since I screwed up my schedule yesterday). I decided to do a brick workout. I pushed harder than I would normally on the spinning bike and then started the run. About a mile into the run I was thinking about calling it a day when I thought "what would the group think if I quit early (I had planned 30 minutes on bike and 5k run). Not that anyone knew my plans but it was that thought that kept me going for another 2.1 miles. Steve- awesome! Glad to see you're pushing yourself... ultimately the glory will be all yours. |
| 2012-01-18 1:57 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
Extreme Veteran 377 Ogallala, Nebraska | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! I found this workout on http://triathlon.competitor.com/2011/11/training/a-better-triathon-... I thought this made a lot of sense to help condition the muscles and help me with my transition practice. The workout: 30-minute warm-up on the bike 10 minutes of running 10 minutes of cycling 10 minutes of cycling 10 minutes of cycling 10 minutes of cycling 20-minute cool down on the bike.
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| 2012-01-18 1:59 PM in reply to: #3996437 |
| New user 38 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! congrats on pulling up your big boys drawers and doing what needed to be done! I for one am proud of you!! Those "bricks" are a booger, but you have to be able to do them! also, tell people at your gym you're training to do a tri and they WILL be watching you, I PROMISE!! I've told everyone I see and boy, they ask nearly every day "so, how many miles have you run/swim/biked this week?" Accountability is a huge thing! and, there's no substitution for a little peer pressure too! Keep up the good work!
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| 2012-01-18 2:01 PM in reply to: #3944485 |
| New user 38 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! so, today my gym owner agreed to sponsor me!! I'm super excited! only having one income was beginnning to affect what I'm using to train and how often, so this is a huge blessing. If you all haven't thought about asking, do! It will also cement your decision to do the tri! once you have a sponsor, there's NO backing out, LOL!!! |
| 2012-01-18 2:02 PM in reply to: #3997717 |
| New user 38 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! wow! that looks great! i think i'll try that out!! have you done it yet? |
| 2012-01-18 2:03 PM in reply to: #3995944 |
| New user 38 | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! I'm thinking some paddles are in my future as well! My gym owner told me she thought they'd be a good idea. swam 1500 meters today. 124 stinking laps. BUT I DID IT! Like Steve, I thought about only doing 1000 but thought, what the hell?! I'll just go ahead and add the rest and see how I do. And, I lived to tell about it |
| 2012-01-18 2:08 PM in reply to: #3997732 |
Extreme Veteran 377 Ogallala, Nebraska | Subject: RE: Matt Gilmartin's Group- CLOSED~ we're swimming! I haven't tried it - I just read it today and thought "I wish I would have seen that before last night." I thought it made a lot of sense for me since I need to work on the transition time, i.e. making shoe changes faster, nutrition as I'm moving etc. |
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